How does your hospital address patients who refuse all care

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The patient who does not want any vitals, labs, tests, or even an IV but they demand to be treated. Does it matter if it is a private, state, or single payer system?

On 5/13/2020 at 6:03 PM, Tenebrae said:

Na its more of a not wanting to do a students home work for them.

Happy to help out with those questions once the student has put their ideas across

You honestly think answering such a tiny casual pondering question is going to be THE QUESTION that will make any homework assignment????

WOW!! I'd be honored to receive your wisdom.

Your answer and then on to TEAS, no wait the boards.

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Specializes in Cardiology.

If they are competent and after we have exhausted all options (psych eval, education, etc) then the doctors will just discharge.

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Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).

We discharge them!

Hppygr8ful

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Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).
On 5/13/2020 at 4:58 PM, DesiDani said:

It is not a homework question. I doubt some will believe me. I have to ask, why would it matter anyway on a forum for Nurses? Unless it is an eat your young type of situation.

It's not an "Eat your Young" thing the reason we sometimes question if something is home work is because we would like to see your research, answers and rationales. This process is what nursing is about. So if genuinely not homework add some context. If it is homework tells us what you think should be done and why!

Hppy

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On 5/17/2020 at 9:44 AM, hppygr8ful said:

It's not an "Eat your Young" thing the reason we sometimes question if something is home work is because we would like to see your research, answers and rationales. This process is what nursing is about. So if genuinely not homework add some context. If it is homework tells us what you think should be done and why!

Hppy

That's an odd homework question. Besides I never got the drama over alleged homework questions. Who cares really? If someone is depending on a forum to complete homework, in the long run (test time), they're screwed.

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Specializes in ER.

I, personally, don't see anything wrong with a student asking what happens at different hospitals. So what if this is a homework question? What better place to come to find out what is done in various facilities and settings.

Especially under these pandemic restrictions, when no one can go anywhere or talk to anybody. This should be an educational, helping forum where inexperienced people can ask questions.

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Specializes in Psych, Corrections, Med-Surg, Ambulatory.
4 hours ago, hppygr8ful said:

It's not an "Eat your Young" thing the reason we sometimes question if something is home work is because we would like to see your research, answers and rationales. This process is what nursing is about. So if genuinely not homework add some context. If it is homework tells us what you think should be done and why!

Hppy

Exactly this. I'm willing to help with homework. I'm just not willing to do it for someone. There is no such thing as an "odd" homework question. If you're just curious, did some experience at work or in clinical spur the curiosity? What's the situation? This information would help us give a well-thought-out answer.

Unfortunately, too many students lob homework questions into our laps and then flounce off when we don't offer an easy answer on a platter. If this isn't the case, then please just give us a bit more info.

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Specializes in ER.

If you don't like answering potential homework questions, stay off those threads.

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21 hours ago, TriciaJ said:

Unfortunately, too many students lob homework questions into our laps and then flounce off when we don't offer an easy answer on a platter. If this isn't the case, then please just give us a bit more info.

Exactly! If they are depending on a forum for help (((NOTHING!))) can help them!

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Specializes in SICU, trauma, neuro.
On 5/17/2020 at 10:49 AM, Emergent said:

I, personally, don't see anything wrong with a student asking what happens at different hospitals. So what if this is a homework question? What better place to come to find out what is done in various facilities and settings.

Especially under these pandemic restrictions, when no one can go anywhere or talk to anybody. This should be an educational, helping forum where inexperienced people can ask questions.

I agree if it’s framed like “I’m a student and learned such and such in lecture... does it actually look like this in the real world?” Or “I don’t know what I’d do in this situation... any advice?” That’s a reasonable question, especially like you said with clinicals being cancelled and not having the same opportunities to ask real-world questions.

The posts that I will answer with a bit more shortness are those that are clearly copy/pasted... no context, no input from the student.

The “I need to interview an RN” and then paste a list of essay questions. Even in pandemic conditions a student can set up a telephone interview and mail a small Starbucks gift card to the nurse at her work address. (In lieu of taking him/her for coffee while interviewing)

But anyway this thread to me honestly didn’t scream “do my homework pleeeeeeease!!”... and anyway the OP seems to be a practicing nurse based on other AN activity.

OP we too discharge the pt.

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Specializes in Mental Health, Gerontology, Palliative.
21 hours ago, TriciaJ said:

Exactly this. I'm willing to help with homework. I'm just not willing to do it for someone. There is no such thing as an "odd" homework question. If you're just curious, did some experience at work or in clinical spur the curiosity? What's the situation? This information would help us give a well-thought-out answer.

Unfortunately, too many students lob homework questions into our laps and then flounce off when we don't offer an easy answer on a platter. If this isn't the case, then please just give us a bit more info.

Yip. This and a thousand times this

Its not about having superior knowledge. After eight years if all the nursing knowledge is this much

I know about this much

Its about creating an environment with open and honest discourse that goes both ways, and when working with students encouraging them to be an active observer rather than waiting to get spoon fed the answers.

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This question got away. Must of had a "why dont they get rid of this %\*$ day!?"

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