How Can Admin Help to Retain School Nurses?

Why would anyone leave a cushy school nurse job? The same unruly parents that are chasing teachers away are also impacting the staffing of nurses in the school setting. How can administration help?

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How Can Admin Help to Retain School Nurses?

Experienced school nurses, we've all had that frightening moment. You have vomiting Vanessa in your office and you need to call THAT parent to pick her up. Her mother had used profanity when you called to ask for the student's required Kindergarten physical and then posted all over social media how poorly she was treated. You take a deep cleansing breath and dial. Maybe today she might be in a better mood.

School nursing is yet another venue losing staff in droves. It's not because of poor pay or long hours, because both are really not bad (with the exception of contact tracing when Covid was at its peak). It's absolutely not the kids, although there are days when they can be mischievous. It's not the heartbreak of being the witness to neglect or abuse and having to work with authorities. As a certified school nurse, IEP and 504 caseloads can be high in the economically challenged communities where up to 25% of the students may need special education services or accommodations, but this is not the reason. So what is the problem?

FACT: Parents who cannot respect reasonable boundaries are the problem. 

I am a parent of three children and have worked as a school nurse since 2013 in seven elementary schools and one high school. I have been the camp nurse for many summers while my children attended. I have been both the girl scout and boy scout leader and worked vacation bible school for several summers; so it is a fair statement that I have spent a fair amount of time working with children. The idea sounds light and fun, and for the most part, it can be. But if there are children to be supervised, there are parents to be managed and this can drastically alter the experience.

All school nurses face being sworn at, being argued with about policies and student pickup, and admittedly, most of my school nurse stories are not as serious as the situation I will now describe. The one that finally broke me in the high school setting occurred during the 20-21 school year when guidance surrounding Covid had its greatest impact on student attendance. I had contacted a father to pick up his son because he was identified as a "close contact" to a positive case. He was unvaccinated and was going to have to be quarantined, as was health department protocol at the time. His father was angry because the student was going to miss a highly anticipated football game. This physically intimidating former military veteran stood in the lobby making physical motions like he was going to hit me because he deemed this my fault. Security was watching and called the principal and the two went into a conference room so that the father could vent and I went back to waiting students. Later that afternoon the father returned and angrily told the security guard, "Tell that nurse to get out here!". The security guard came to tell me about the father's reappearance at the door and his demands and stated that he had shared this with the principal and then offered to escort me to my car at the end of the school day. The principal never spoke to me about it, even after I requested a meeting to discuss it. There was no administrative follow-up with that parent, nor were any assurances made to me that I would remain safe in the building. Several weeks later, the principal had come to discuss a parent complaint about one of my nurses with me as her supervisor and I brought up the incident that had been occupying my thoughts daily. He shrugged his shoulders and said that was not what he recalled. He did not ask any questions and expressed no interest in addressing the matter. He sat across from me with a flat expression and remained stoic and silent. It was astonishing to me, given the continuous stress from that year including a fire to fights and the nursing team's level of dedication to providing our best care to the 4000 students in that building, that there was no disputing how little I was valued.

So what was I hoping for and what is the answer? The first and most obvious solution is supportive administration. Most school nurses are supervised by non-medical personnel who do not truly understand the role or know what it takes to manage a busy health office. Regular communication between the administrator and the nurse is paramount to growing the relationship and establishing trust. The principal/vice principal/dean should feel confident in standing up and supporting the nurse's decisions. They can have faith that evidence is weighed carefully and protocol followed as dictated in the district. When an angry parent calls or a teacher complains, the administration should not automatically apologize for nursing staff behavior, but should investigate complaints and respond accordingly. I am not saying that nurses never make errors because we are human and certainly do. I am simply asking for fair treatment and a reasonable level of support. We should not have to stand alone against unnecessary abuse.

Many youth sports programs require the parents to sign a code of conduct that prohibits swearing, yelling at players, and aggressively confronting the referees. The parent handbook and online registration systems have a student code of conduct that must be signed that addresses plagiarism, appropriate use of the school computers, and the dress code. If either the parent handbook or the online registration included a section that also addressed parent conduct we might feel that the school board supported the respectful treatment of all school staff. That is what we seek, after all.

FACT: We want to be treated with common courtesy and moderate respect.

Lee Ann Bristow-Hartnett, BSN, RN, PEL-CSN is a parent of three almost grown children, a former teacher, and a decade of school nurse experience.

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It never ceases to amaze me how as nurses we are expected to be abused and just accept it. We get grief from admin who number crunch and teachers who thought that every sneeze or cough was Covid and not anything else like allergies or common colds, to parents who blatently lie and suffer no repercussions. 

Specializes in Psych.

I don't work in school nursing, but I work with adolescents in psych. I'm lucky to work in a program where if the parents are verbally abusive then their kid can be removed from our program. I can feel for you because I haven't always had the kind of support that I get now. It is shameful when administrators allow for that kind of bullying and abuse to go on. It shows just how little we are valued. With those kinds of organizations, sometimes the best we can do is vote with our feet. Staff abuse by parents should be taken much more seriously and have consequences attached. We matter!!

Specializes in Nurse Attorney.

Why would anyone leave a cushy school nurse job?   Put "cushy" in quotes. School nursing is extremely stressful.  As much as the public doesn't understand what nurses do, even the nursing community doesn't understand what school nurses do or how difficult their job is.  The idea that is is just band aids and immunizations is very outdated.  Deepest respect for them - they change and save lives.

Specializes in Operating room nurse/educator - Neurosurgery.

I feel it depends on where you are at in your nursing career. School nursing is more political now with BOE putting their political agendas before best practice.  School nursing is not difficult work. Yes, you don't get the same respect when working for educators, they do not appreciate our skill set. I certainly love the hours/vacation and flexibility. My day is not anywhere near as stressful as working in the hospital. Also, you have time to work on your graduate studies or other certifications when there is down time. I would not suggest a brand new graduate nurse work in school nursing as you will not get the clinical experience as you would in a hospital setting. I find that older generation nurses transfer to school nursing before they retire if they are fortunate enough to find a school position willing to pay a decent salary - good luck with that!  I work PRN in addition to make some extra spending money. So I have the best of both worlds. I am working on a school nurse grant and when that expires I will more than likely just work PRN.  It depends on where you are at in your career!

I def feel for you. I’ve never done school nursing nor do I want to now. I’ve def encountered my share of abuse from pts/fam but I had no idea you guys were getting it at the same level as us inpt nurses.  Another thing we share in common is the lack of support.  We are not supported or appreciated at all. The only time we hear from administration is if, I’m sorry, NEVER!


That guy should have been arrested, not sorry! How dare he use his military bravado to intimidate a nurse and of all places at a school! With the youth! What freaking kind of example is that!

I don’t have an answer on how to retain nurses but a start would be for us to have rights! Things we are not and should not have to tolerate.  Facilities that help with some of the problems disguised as medical problems! Zero tolerance for Pat/fam abuse. I’ll stop here.  Going out for a ?‍♀️ 

Specializes in Telemetry, DD, Ortho, CCU, BHU.

Nurse abuse is no different than other forms of abuse and should be dealt with appropriately.  An administrator who does not stand behind a nurse who is unjustly being abused needs to hand in his/her resignation.  Personally I am not a fan of non- medical personnel supervising nurses.  They do not have the knowledge necessary to do so.  There should be a physician affiliated with the school supervising.  Expensive, maybe, but the correct way to do things.  Perhaps several schools could affiliate with the same physician.  Nurses take orders from physicians, PAs, NPs, podiatrists and dentists, not administrators.  That’s the way I see it, unless some nurse law is in place for school nurses which I am unaware of (it’s possible). Regardless of the supervision, the administrator should have stood up for the nurse.   There will come a time when nurses will just call the police ( they have the right to do so) which most likely will make their employer mad.  Oh well, nurses have the right to call the police if they feel threatened in any way, it’s about time everyone is aware of that.

I was a school nurse who got terminated for having a small amount of residue in a pill crusher

Specializes in Occupational Health.

I loved being a school nurse, until it was clear that we weren't truly valued and would never be treated as professionals by administration or parents. Being cussed out repeatedly by a parent while their sick child sits on a cot, spending my own money to make sure I had supplies, having healthcare policies made on a whim by admin with zero input from nursing staff: it was all too much. My former district currently has half the nursing staff it should due to resignations this year. 

I left this year as well and started in an occupational health position. My salary doubled, my stress is significantly reduced, and I finally feel respected as a professional. 

Specializes in Med-Surg, Oncology, School Nursing, OB.

We have a fairly high turnover in our district of 30 nurses (each school has their own nurse whether that school is 250 or 1500). We are on a teacher’s salary schedule which is much less than what you can make somewhere else but we only work 185 days a year. We don’t get overtime for any Summer meetings or after hours work. That doesn’t bother me too much due to the great schedule.
 

What DOES bother me (and most of us) we don’t have a very supportive boss. She used to be a school nurse so she knows what it’s like but quickly forgot because she’s always expecting us to do more and more things. When we ask for help or have questions we get condescending remarks and emails to the whole group. Many times our emails go unanswered with questions about something she doesn’t make clear so we call each other first and when no one knows the answer we take turns on the one asking a question because she gets irritated even though it’s her fault she left out too many details. 
 

Then our immediate supervisors are our principals who truly don’t understand what all we deal with. Some have our backs but most don’t. I think most principals I’ve worked with have thrown me under the bus to save face with a parent or teacher. I never fully trust them because of that. I’ve been burned too many times. 
 

Then there’s the teachers. A few are great but there’s always those ones at every school who will send kids for every little thing all day long like sneezing once and want them to go home because they don’t want to deal with them in class. It wears you down. They want to tell you what to do and get mad and snarky when you refuse. Then the ones that take it to the principal well guess who they side with. I had a teacher this year text me every time a kid showed up smelling bad or not wearing something she liked even though it was fine. Every week. ?No other teachers had issues with these kids so it was just her. (And yes teachers do pick on kids and make them feel bad for things out of their control.) Some throw a huge fit wanting any kid to go home for vomiting even though some kids vomit easily on purpose to get out of school weekly or some say I feel fine ,I just got gagged on something. Also many teachers, the counselor, even three principal sometimes wants you to handle something that’s not even your job. I had a counselor ask me to call a student’s parent and suggest counseling because it would sound better coming from me. Wth! It’s frustrating not working with any other nurses in the same building who get and understand you.

Then we have the parents who get furious if you dare interrupt them during the day because their child is legitimately sick. Some send them to school having vomited and running a fever before school (still fevered because the Tylenol hasn’t kicked in yet) and refuse to answer their phone all day and no other numbers work. Some get mad because I didn’t call them when their child came in to see me and was perfectly fine and wants called every time so I do and they pick them up every time they complain so that ends up being all the time to get out of school because the parent likes being needed then yell at the  teachers because their kid’s grades are bad. Some I call because their kid needs to see a Dr and they don’t take them until I keep calling day after day (like probable ear infection, limping for over a week/month, sinus infection, rotten tooth, etc or I end up having to call child protective services. Many ask me to make an exception for them and allow THEIR child to take or carry meds we don’t have an order for and then get mad when we refuse. About 10% of parents are nice, responsible, respectful parents anymore it seems.

 

Then teachers are allowed to just take off anytime for anything and we get threatened every year we better be washing our hands and wearing our masks and not get sick because there’s no coverage and all personal days (that we lose if we don’t use within a certain time frame will be (and are) denied. Yet it’s the law that only an RN can administer insulin so they are forced to have another nurse run over and cover but they don’t like dealing with it so they just threaten us to not get sick even though we see almost every sick kid in the building all day long every day. Plus most of us do not get a lunch to ourselves. We are shoving food in our face seeing kids or just don’t eat. If a teacher misses a lunch they get extra pay or time off. So if we push it (because yes it’s a union) they will make us take it and then all those kids that we would’ve seen are lined up waiting on us so we get behind and then end up working over for free charting because it’s a salary position so it’s not worth taking a lunch if we are super busy ,which at my school is every day. Also the times you do get to go find somewhere to eat if any teachers are around they start asking you about their own health issues while you eat. Uggh! We get left out of a lot of things too. No one thinks to ask the nurse if she wants to go out to lunch with them on CE days or join in on a joint gift for someone. 

So this is a huge multifaceted problem. If we got more respect that would be huge! The best part of the job is lower stress (no life and death stress), the schedule, and most importantly the kids. Kids are needy and exhausting but they make me smile every day and it feels good to help them. 

 

OMG this post! This really should be in a nursing journal. The way you hit on just about every problem a school nurse has to deal with.. uhh I’m impressed ?

 

That said there are so many things you have opened my eyes to. So no one gets paid during Summer break! Wow!  Wow!

You really just have no support, it’s kind of like you’re on an island there.  The parents with the sick kid that turns off their cell (gulp). I shuddered…The vague nursing super person, LOL, they’re probably doing that purposely. The principals and teachers, yea I could see them sticking together. The wait line if you take lunch ha! We share that in common if we get a lunch same as you. Except we hope our patients didn’t fall or have an abnormal rhythm or something

Back in the day I had a friend who used to fake faint so she could leave school early so I know kids fake illness lolol!

All in all I’m proud of you.  I was intrigued reading this. Hang in there as long as you can. You are needed!

Specializes in Pediatric Nursing.

Thank you all for your comments! I found it interesting that positions can be so different in pay and in daily workload. This thought has inspired me to write another article because it is common that people have no concept of the responsibilities that some school nurses bear, even within the nursing community. In a high needs school with tube feeds, catheters, and high volume special medical needs, each day is a race to the finish line. RBH, you hit the nail on the head with so many of your points. If you hadn't said you work for a woman I might have suspected we were in the same district! It is so helpful to me to see others with the same challenges, since we do work on our own island!