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rn.d86

28 Posts

BCaliRN, did you graduate from Holy Names, or are you going to a different NP program now? I'm trying to decide where I should apply.

rtrn08

4 Posts

hi csung1818, i am considering hnu for fnp. i was wondering if you can avail few minutes of your time over the phone? much appreciated. i do not belive i can get any pms. if you pm me with a call-back number, i can text you my cell. i live in la. thanks a lot!

regards,

rt

np2009

11 Posts

Hi,

I'm applying for HNU's FNP program and wanted some more insight as to your experience with the program, professors, curriculum etc. Were you easily able to find a job after graduation? Any information you could provide would be great as I am deciding between two schools. Thanks!

Dana1969

27 Posts

I applied and was accepted to HNU's FNP program but was floored by what I saw there during orientation. Inadequate staffing and facilities, the books weren't even available in the bookstore even though the term had started. MBA2RN's comments are right on target. It's only a matter of time before the CA BON closes this diploma mill down.

np2009

11 Posts

Did you end up completing the program or transferring out? Do you know anything about preceptor placement and whether they actually do place you? I was already sketchy about this school because it's so hard to find any detailed information about their program. I really appreciate your response and anything else you can tell me would be helpful!

Dana1969

27 Posts

For preceptor placement, you are completely on your own. They stress this from the first day of orientation. They strongly advise you to begin your preceptor search upon enrolling, as failure to obtain a satisfactory preceptor placement by the deadline is grounds for dismissal from the program. They had a placement coordinator, but she had at least three other titles (secretary, admin asst to Vice President X, Associate Administrator of Dept Y, just empty titles, she was never on campus and didn't return calls). Then she left and a replacement was not hired (perhaps due to budget constraints?). I was two months in when the department chair announced that she was leaving to pursue other opportunities. It was already looking like the program was close to folding (under-staffed, under-funded). Then, it was in the news that HNU's graduate nursing program was being reviewed by an outside accreditation agency.

I know two people who have completed the HNU FNP program, and both have told me that the program has changed into something they can't recommend. Last I heard, they only had two full-time instructors devoted to the FNP program, with the holes being filled by unpaid second year FNP student volunteers. How can a program charge $800-1000 per unit, and not be able to hire staff, provide adequate classroom space, or administrative support? Where is the money going?

HNU is running the FNP program like they are trying to wring the last dollar out of students, before they are shutdown.

Enroll at your own peril.

Dana1969, it sounds like things haven't changed in the FNP program at Holy Names University. Wish it were otherwise, as I believe FNPs are the bright stars of our profession that nursing needs to promote better in the public eye. I hope HNU can turn it around.

np2009

11 Posts

Dana1969,

Thank you so much for all the info! I really appreciate it and will definitely be taking all of this into consideration. That's some pretty scary stuff...don't think I'm willing to take the chance of having to deal with all that :/

tsipareht

106 Posts

I am considering applying to HNU for the Fall 2015 cohort. From what I have read about the reviews, it doesn't sound like a great school to receive my FNP through. Is this still the case? Are there any current students in the program who can weigh in please? Thank you in advance.

ReentryBlues

6 Posts

Hi, tsipareht.

I will be graduating from HNU's MSN/FNP program this August. I am happy to say that they have started to turn the school around. Students are welcome to find their own preceptors, but if they do not, the school will help them. I found most of my own throughout, but this final semester, I am depending on them to find one or two for me, and so far they have found one. There is another possibility in the works.

HNU is still accredited with CCNE, and still approved by the California BRN, which visited the school last year and reviewed it. At this point, the school is not in any danger of losing accreditation. From the CCNE website:

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[TD]Spring 2017[/TD]

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Since I haven't been to another FNP school, it is difficult for me to rate it against other schools. However, I just took a diagnostic readiness test that the school gives through Barkley and Associates and passed, and I still have one semester and two clinical rotations to finish before I graduate. I did not study for the test or take any review course prior to it, just my normal classes and studying.

Sure, there are things I wish were better, but some of them I believe are endemic to NP education: not enough focus on the clinical, and too much emphasis on research and other fluff. Can't fault Holy Names for that; the fault is with our nursing leadership in the ivory towers endlessly gazing into their own navels.

Anyway, hope this helps.

ReentryBlues

6 Posts

Tsipareht, you pm'd me but allnurses won't allow me to reply because I don't have 15 posts. So I will answer here--sorry! Also, can't answer now, will do so in a day or two.

tsipareht

106 Posts

Thank you. Feel free to email me @ [email protected]

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