Holiday Sick Calls From Self-Centered Staff

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As of noon today, the staffing office says 13 nurses and nurses aids have called off sick for night shift. There will probably be more by the afternoon cutoff. Though staff also call after the cutoff time. They also come to work and leave a couple hours into the shift, deciding they don't feel well enough after all.

The last group are the worst because they cause a hospital-wide scramble of nurses changing patient assignments right before the main night shift med pass. Sometimes nurses end up switching to other units to cover the sudden absence. There are about five nurses in this hospital that do it often enough for others to notice. 

It is the Monday of Thanksgiving week. As it goes every year, the number of sick calls around holidays, school vacations, etc. seems to go up and up. Thirteen staff in our hospital equals every nurse in the Telemetry Unit calling off - 10 floor nurses, 2 break/resource nurses, and the charge nurse. It is not a big enough hospital to have that many staff call off in one shift.

So now, for those of us who trudge in who are also tired of Covid and tired of working short handed, we will probably not get any breaks. There is no way we will have break nurses with 13 calling off. The charge nurses will probably have assignments on the med-surg units. Who knows if this will be the night the hospital goes out of ratio due to not enough nurses to care for the patients, despite a dozen travelers in house. 

I think these nurses calling off, who are not really sick, are jerks. I know there are nurses on this website that blame administration for all of this. I can't. What level of professional calls off at this rate? It is ridiculous. They make it even worse for the rest of us. We would have had a decent night if 10 of those staff showed up. 

When I came to nursing, I had no idea I would work with so many self-centered individuals who would leave their coworkers hanging because they can't be bothered to come to work, and don't understand the need to balance a schedule. 

Specializes in Operating room, ER, Home Health.
1 hour ago, turtlesRcool said:

Exactly!  Unions aren't magic. They can't keep someone from being fired for cause.  All they can do is ensure the employer follows due process. If management wants someone gone, they need to do their jobs and document the necessary evidence to make that happen. Unions are made up of other employees, and they usually do want the lazy and incompetent coworkers gone.  But unions fight because they want the process to be followed (which usually involves warnings and improvement plans), so the dismissal is fair and the system remains intact so good workers can't be unfairly terminated by a manager with a grudge. It annoys me to no end when people blame unions for the shortcomings of lazy management.

Very true. 

Specializes in Rehab/Nurse Manager.
On 11/24/2021 at 9:26 AM, Jeckrn1 said:

I have worked at places that if you call off the shift before or after the holiday you do not get holiday pay for the holiday. 

We have this at my facility, and it's actually been pretty effective in reducing the number of call-offs during the holiday shifts.   We also have a policy regarding the weekends in which if you call off on your scheduled weekend, you need to work the next.  Unfortunately, this policy hasn't been as effective as it is not really enforced.  It's unfortunate that some employees need to be reminded of the importance of professionalism and showing up for work when they are scheduled, but unless they are held accountable (such as decreased pay or working a different shift), this won't change.   

On 11/22/2021 at 4:49 PM, SunDazed said:

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As of noon today, the staffing office says 13 nurses and nurses aids have called off sick for night shift. There will probably be more by the afternoon cutoff. Though staff also call after the cutoff time. They also come to work and leave a couple hours into the shift, deciding they don't feel well enough after all.

The last group are the worst because they cause a hospital-wide scramble of nurses changing patient assignments right before the main night shift med pass. Sometimes nurses end up switching to other units to cover the sudden absence. There are about five nurses in this hospital that do it often enough for others to notice. 

It is the Monday of Thanksgiving week. As it goes every year, the number of sick calls around holidays, school vacations, etc. seems to go up and up. Thirteen staff in our hospital equals every nurse in the Telemetry Unit calling off - 10 floor nurses, 2 break/resource nurses, and the charge nurse. It is not a big enough hospital to have that many staff call off in one shift.

So now, for those of us who trudge in who are also tired of Covid and tired of working short handed, we will probably not get any breaks. There is no way we will have break nurses with 13 calling off. The charge nurses will probably have assignments on the med-surg units. Who knows if this will be the night the hospital goes out of ratio due to not enough nurses to care for the patients, despite a dozen travelers in house. 

I think these nurses calling off, who are not really sick, are jerks. I know there are nurses on this website that blame administration for all of this. I can't. What level of professional calls off at this rate? It is ridiculous. They make it even worse for the rest of us. We would have had a decent night if 10 of those staff showed up. 

 

I believe that would save anger if y'all plan for call offs. Sorry this is administration's job. You know holidays and certain days are going to get more call offs, you call an agency and get it covered. and YES, this  does mean OVER STAFF  in advance even if it costs you. This means you may get  the 'passive aggressive' call off if you overwork or don't cover your shifts.

 

1 hour ago, summertx said:

I believe that would save anger if y'all plan for call offs. Sorry this is administration's job. You know holidays and certain days are going to get more call offs, you call an agency and get it covered. and YES, this  does mean OVER STAFF  in advance even if it costs you. This means you may get  the 'passive aggressive' call off if you overwork or don't cover your shifts.

 

There is no local agency to call in this rural area. You are lucky to have that resource. 
 

Hard to overstaff when the hospital is still short staffed and busting at the seams with patients who have delayed care due to Covid and are now in for longer stays. Even with 2-3 times the normal amount of travelers on staff. 
 

I don’t understand ‘passive aggressive call off’. What do you mean? 

Specializes in school nurse.
12 minutes ago, SunDazed said:


 

I don’t understand ‘passive aggressive call off’. What do you mean? 

I'm guessing it's calling in sick the day after you have a really bad assignment due to other people calling in sick...

I love that most other careers/professions expect employees to get sick, but nurses and healthcare professionals treat call-offs like some shameful taboo event.

People get sick and believe it or not people can get sick around the holidays.  It’s subjective just like what’s been drilled “pain is what the patient says it is”.  We know there are call off offenders, but for all we know someone could be having diabetic complications, a cold (the seasons are changing), or possibly Covid.

I personally barely call out (my floor usually doesn’t have a lot of call outs) & I have been to work while sick out of fear of leaving staff hanging or thinking I’m superwoman.  Yea this job builds our  immune system but you can’t assume what the next person is going through.

 

 Let them take their due time and take that up with staffing.  Hospitals need to block beds (but that’s a loss of money) or invest in the staffing shortage (education, retention, job satisfaction).

 

Specializes in school nurse.
35 minutes ago, hardworkpaysoff said:

I love that most other careers/professions expect employees to get sick, but nurses and healthcare professionals treat call-offs like some shameful taboo event.

People get sick and believe it or not people can get sick around the holidays.  It’s subjective just like what’s been drilled “pain is what the patient says it is”.

I believe that most people are referring to the predictable and manipulative off-callers (Is that a word? It sounded better than caller off-ers.) who amazingly can fight off any illness unless it strikes on a scheduled holiday, days adjoining a day-off or vacation or a day off request that was denied. That should be taboo, called out on and shamed.

And I disagree with your subjective premise as well as a general rule. Pain in your right little toe? Well, suck it up and come to work...

17 minutes ago, Jedrnurse said:

I believe that most people are referring to the predictable and manipulative off-callers (Is that a word? It sounded better than caller off-ers.) who amazingly can fight off any illness unless it strikes on a scheduled holiday, days adjoining a day-off or vacation or a day off request that was denied. That should be taboo, called out on and shamed.

And I disagree with your subjective premise as well as a general rule. Pain in your right little toe? Well, suck it up and come to work...

When I say subjective I mean some sickness you can’t see.   I’ve worked through miscarriages, dizziness, limping, syncope, and countless other illnesses where I had to be a silent sufferer.  I’ve had coworkers who’ve almost been in a diabetic coma or severely hypoglycemic and still working. Truth be told I’ve gotten halfway through a shift and regretted not calling off, not just because of how I felt, but because my patients didn’t deserve a nurse at 25% (I give my patients my all).  I won’t even get started psychological illnesses but I digress.  

If we clock in and make a mistake or don’t take care of our patients/charting they don’t take into account the fact that you weren’t feeling well. It’s “oh well you should’ve called off”.  It becomes a safety issue in some cases.

 

I do realize this article is about chronic offenders (we all know them), but my point was there will be some real sick people sprinkled in there that don’t deserve the shame.  I have to go on a deep search to find the call off number and when I do locate it I feel so horrible and anxious about calling.  Sick days are built in for a reason.  Just thought it was interesting in this profession where they preach about infection control and wellness that we as nurses get punished for taking action due to nurse culture which is influenced greatly by the nurse shortage. 
 

But I do respect your opinion; that’s just my input as a silent suffering nurse who rarely calls out that frequently ends up with unused PPL time that doesn’t all rollover.

Specializes in school nurse.
12 minutes ago, hardworkpaysoff said:

When I say subjective I mean some sickness you can’t see.   I’ve worked through miscarriages, dizziness, limping, syncope, and countless other illnesses where I had to be a silent sufferer.  I’ve had coworkers who’ve almost been in a diabetic coma or severely hypoglycemic and still working. Truth be told I’ve gotten halfway through a shift and regretted not calling off, not just because of how I felt, but because my patients didn’t deserve a nurse at 25% (I give my patients my all).  I won’t even get started psychological illnesses but I digress.  

If we clock in and make a mistake or don’t take care of our patients/charting they don’t take into account the fact that you weren’t feeling well. It’s “oh well you should’ve called off”.  It becomes a safety issue in some cases.

 

I do realize this article is about chronic offenders (we all know them), but my point was there will be some real sick people sprinkled in there that don’t deserve the shame.  I have to go on a deep search to find the call off number and when I do locate it I feel so horrible and anxious about calling.  Sick days are built in for a reason.  Just thought it was interesting in this profession where they preach about infection control and wellness that we as nurses get punished for taking action due to nurse culture which is influenced greatly by the nurse shortage. 
 

But I do respect your opinion; that’s just my input as a silent suffering nurse who rarely calls out that frequently ends up with unused PPL time that doesn’t all rollover.

It does seem that some systems overcompensate sometimes and end up giving legitimately ill people extra hoops to go through. I've become somewhat sensitized to the sick time issue as I'm currently working in a place where people think that calling in is an Olympic sport and that they're training for the gold.

People are also manipulating COVID issues as well to get time off and that truly frosts my cornflakes...

Specializes in Med-Surg, Geriatrics, Wound Care.

I generate about 1 day of PTO every 2-3 weeks. Getting holiday time off is not always easy. For many units, trying to schedule a day off and using any PTO is a challenge. I've worked at places with "max PTO" before. They may (or may not) let you cash out. They may (or may not) pay it to you when you leave. Some places have sick days that are annual an do not accrue, use it or lose it. Some people use it rather than lose it. Some people have sick time and call out. Some people do it more frequently than others. It is a paid benefit that many employers offer. Can't offer it then cry foul when people use it. If people could take off the time they need/want, perhaps it won't make everyone so hostile and angry and working while sick. Employers need to employ enough people to make the jobs a place to work. Employees should not be chastised for using their benefits.

Specializes in school nurse.
2 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

Can't offer it then cry foul when people use it. If people could take off the time they need/want, perhaps it won't make everyone so hostile and angry and working while sick. 

You're talking about a different sub-set of employees; the gist of many of these posts is about habitual abusers. Yes, you can cry foul when people abuse sick-time, I.e. lie about being sick, call off when they want to extend a weekend, avoid working a holiday or other variations on the theme.

Companies may give the PTO, but they also have policies delineating what proper notice is required to use it. Their not allowing employees to use the time is another issue. (One that abusers don't run into, as they take off any time that they want...)

Specializes in Med-Surg, Geriatrics, Wound Care.
7 minutes ago, Jedrnurse said:

You're talking about a different sub-set of employees; the gist of many of these posts is about habitual abusers. Yes, you can cry foul when people abuse sick-time, I.e. lie about being sick, call off when they want to extend a weekend, avoid working a holiday or other variations on the theme.

Companies may give the PTO, but they also have policies delineating what proper notice is required to use it. Their not allowing employees to use the time is another issue. (One that abusers don't run into, as they take off any time that they want...)

I really don't think that people taking off any time (they have available) when they want is abuse. It is being an adult, and having a job and a life.  Using the available time is not abuse. And people using that time may prioritize their life rather than their job. Sure many people don't like to use their sick time. I rarely call off. But that's *me*, and I'm also one of those that has "lost" time due to not using it.

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