when even [http://www.amconmag.com/2007/2007_10_22/cover.html a magazine called "the american conservative" counsels] the republican presidential candidates that they can't live on hillary-hate alone, something is happening.
as nurses fighting for guaranteed healthcare, the california nurses association/national nurses organizing committee tracks this trend in terms of health policy. [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rose-ann-demoro/memo-to-the-gop-stopping_b_69472.html i will let our executive director rose ann demoro sum it up: attacking hillary clinton is not a health plan.] you can click through to the full article, but here's a taste:
apparently taking their leadership from karl rove who warned that the republican candidates must focus on healthcare because the issue is "on the mind of a lot of swing voters," the republican candidates for president have now latched on to healthcare.
but in the true spirit of their mentor rove, it appears they think our biggest healthcare crisis is the potential election of hillary clinton.
hearing their fulminations about "socialized medicine" and "hillary care" almost makes you wonder what they've been drinking.
in a new report, george lakoff's rockridge institute aptly describes the approach of clinton and the other top tier democrats as the "neoliberal mode of thought" in its dubious reliance on regulation and technocratic changes to an industry that needs to be dismantled, not tweaked.
but at least clinton and company are talking about comprehensive reform. the republican candidates' healthcare policies recall the words attributed, probably erroneously, to marie antoinette whose infamous solution to mass shortages of bread was "let them eat cake."
...cross-posted at the [http://www.guaranteedhealthcare.org/blog national nurses organizing committee/california nurses association's] breakroom blog, as we organize to make 2007 the year of guaranteed healthcare on the single-payer model.
I don't think children and adults are in poor health due to lack of insurance.
Could you explain further what you mean? Thanks.
steph
Sure,IMO if parents who are working but have stipulations on obtaining adequate health insurance through their employers, ,maybe meeting a criteria of hours,or huge out of pocket expense to pay for the insurance can ultimately impact their health. Well the Dr. visit may be paid for but I have to pay full price or a loosely reduced price for the medication can make or break a week in a household that is barely above the povery limits. Even as a middle-class individual, I have to pay up front 85% of my meds now. Yes I am reimbursed at a later date at an even lower amount than I originally paid, but still $229.00 for 21 pills of Levaquin for a serious sinus infection is just that $229.00.
I may have generalized (in which I apologize) or seemed to imply all folks are in poor health, clearly they are not, but I am going for the underdog here and also the awareness of the potential threat of illness anyone could face, that by having a better healthcare system, that is fair,available to all I would bet this country would see a healthier overall population.
I agree there are folks who want the free boat ride, but the folks rowing the boat,staying afloat with their jobs and benefits are just that staying afloat. Don't know if this gave my opinion to you a better perspective; I'd just like to see a better equality assurance for all of us concerning healthcare. Thanks Stevie.
I am a supporter of Hilary Clinton for several reasons, one being her position on health care. I took the time to read all of the Democrats versions of their health plans and found that they are all very similar, however Hilary's is much more detailed. In reference to her first Health Care Plan, if you read about this you will find that she was given the task of creating this plan in a short period of time. I encourage supporters and even non-supporters of the Clintons to read both of their books and you will be surprised, and a lot of your questions answered about health care, their relationship with other politicians and both of their vast amounts of experience to hold the office of the President of the United States.
I'm looking forward to graduating anesthesia school in two years. I'd be an idiot to think the socialized medical plan being touted by Clinton would benefit my practice at all. In fact, I wouldn't be going to anesthesia school in the first place. It's just too much of a sacrafice (anesthesia school) for me to not be compensated appropriately when I graduate.
Before anyone asks...I'm not doing it just for the money. I enjoy delivering anesthesia. However, a major incentive for me to finish is the money.
Look at the evidence before you make broad generalizations about compensation within a universal coverage system. Under single payer you would still be an employee of the hospital or clinic. You would still be able to negotiate your compensation. You would NOT be an employee of the government.
Nurses in states with near universal health care coverage are paid very well. (In part that is also d/t a strong union culture in those states but that is for another thread). I did some comparative studies between MN and Norway awhile ago. MN and Norwegian nurses were paid essentially the same.
it is called taking care of myself and my family ! if someone needs directions on how to do it,i will make it simple.
1)get the needed education.
how would this be paid for? if you are working 60 hours per week as in point 2 there would not be the time or energy to prepare for a new career.....
2)get butt out of bed daily and find job.(maybe two if you have been stupid enough to get yourself into a situation where one is not enough)
working poor (depending on the cost of living in the area) is essentially less than 40,000/year for a family of four. that equates 2 adults in the family working 40 hours per week at 9 something per hour. with decent health insurance (equivalent to what you have through your employer) costing 1100/month that puts health care out of reach for this family.
3)show up and do job every day even if you don't feel like it or don't feel as good today as you did yesterday.
sick child? car problems? health problems? daycare problems? poverty puts families at increased risk of all of these problems. the poor are at greater risk of poor health for a wide variety of reasons.
4)spend earnings wisely and put family before big car,fir coat or big screen t.v.
pejorative comment.......
it ain't rocket science.
my reaction to your post was that it was a simplistic response to complex problems. in general i agree with your emphasis on work but we need to ask as a society what are the barriers to effective participation in the workforce? how can we reduce these barriers? how can we help people learn to effectively participate in the economy so they are self sufficient?
Specializes in primary care, holistic health, integrated medicine.
Hillary is definetely NOT the answer to our healthcare problems. But ONE republican candidate IS NOT attacking Hillary. Ron Paul. Check him out - www.RonPaul2008.com He is an MD, very evidence based and I haven't seen him sling mud once, even though people TRY to sling mud on him... there just isn't any. I think we need a doctor in the White House. MN
This woman isn't even qualified to be a CNA (no offense to CNAs) but people are so willing to turn over 1/7th of the US economy to her? The only record Hillary has on health care is a FAILED policy that was soundly defeated in the early 90's. If you want a good health plan in this country the you get an education get a good job and you will have health care.
I object to the term "failed policy". Something that was never tried can hardly be called failed. Honestly, if we had begun to make changes at that time things would not be such a mess now. The far reaching changes that were suggested by her were derailed by special interest because they planned on getting rich from health care. Many new millionaires are walking around with money in their pockets that should have been spent on care. Believe it or not I am not a Hilary supporter. I was not planning on voting for her. However, I can't help but notice that all the people I dispise hate her. That makes me think I should give her a second look.
Not enough time????? you have to be kidding. This women has had 20 years to come up with a plan. Please give me her experience to hold the office of the President, other than the last name of Clinton
I am a supporter of Hilary Clinton for several reasons, one being her position on health care. I took the time to read all of the Democrats versions of their health plans and found that they are all very similar, however Hilary's is much more detailed. In reference to her first Health Care Plan, if you read about this you will find that she was given the task of creating this plan in a short period of time. I encourage supporters and even non-supporters of the Clintons to read both of their books and you will be surprised, and a lot of your questions answered about health care, their relationship with other politicians and both of their vast amounts of experience to hold the office of the President of the United States.
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I don't think children and adults are in poor health due to lack of insurance.
Could you explain further what you mean? Thanks.
steph