Hepatitis B Vaccine Safe?

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I am starting nursing school this fall and I need to decide whether or not to get the hepatitis b vaccine. I have been reading a lot about it and there is so much conflicting information. I wanted to know what people think about the vaccine and whether or not you have had it.

Thanks

I am starting nursing school this fall and I need to decide whether or not to get the hepatitis b vaccine. I have been reading a lot about it and there is so much conflicting information. I wanted to know what people think about the vaccine and whether or not you have had it.

Thanks

The "conflicting information" you have seen does not come from reputable sources.

The hepatitis B vaccine is safe. Vaccines in general are not only safe, they have saved countless lives. If the current bunch of whack jobs is successful in getting people to stop vaccinating, they will be responsible for killing people.

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The "conflicting information" you have seen does not come from reputable sources.

The hepatitis B vaccine is safe. Vaccines in general are not only safe, they have saved countless lives. If the current bunch of whack jobs is successful in getting people to stop vaccinating, they will be responsible for killing people.

The Harvard School of Public Health study is not reputable?

CONCLUSIONS: These findings are consistent with the hypothesis that immunization with the recombinant hepatitis B vaccine is associated with an increased risk of MS, and challenge the idea that the relation between hepatitis B vaccination and risk of MS is well understood.
This conflicts with the CDC study:

CONCLUSION: Vaccination against hepatitis B, influenza, tetorifice, measles, or rubella is not associated with an increased risk of multiple sclerosis or optic neuritis.
I think the honest answer is there is some complexity and ambiguity with the truth re: safety of the hep B vaccine. I chose to get the vaccine despite any possible links with MS or demyelinating disease because I am more fearful of getting hep B. If I didn't work in healthcare, I would not take the risk with this vaccine until more research is done.
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The Harvard School of Public Health study is not reputable?

This conflicts with the CDC study:

I think the honest answer is there is some complexity and ambiguity with the truth re: safety of the hep B vaccine. I chose to get the vaccine despite any possible links with MS or demyelinating disease because I am more fearful of getting hep B. If I didn't work in healthcare, I would not take the risk with this vaccine until more research is done.

BACKGROUND: A potential link between the recombinant hepatitis B vaccine and an increased risk of multiple sclerosis (MS) has been evaluated in several studies, but some of them have substantial methodologic limitations.

At this point it is still a potential. But I agree that unless you are at high risk, it probably isn't a must have vaccine for all.

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Of course we haven't even mentioned the talk about another possible link with the hep B vaccine and type 1 diabetes. It's interesting, but nothing is proven or reasonably certain, by any means. I'm a little nervous about the vaccine, but I'm more nervous about hep B. I have a good friend who got a large bore needle stick from a hepatitis B patient, and she had declined to get the vaccine. I find that terrifying.

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The lack of reliable information is why I started the thread. If I trusted what I found on google I would not have posted it. I like to be informed before I inject something into my body. In my opinion history has shown that blindly taking vaccines and assuming they are all safe isn't the best idea.

OK.

You only post what you don't trust?

And...

You don't have any objections to any of the vaccines you've had or may be required to administer that contain:

human albumin, bovine serum, hydrolized gelatin, chicken embryo, rhesus monkey fetal components, vesicle fluid from calf skins, chick embryonic fluid, mouse serum proteins, fetal bovine serum, guinea pig embryo cells, and human diploid cells from aborted fetal tissue ? Even with "vegan" as part of your name?

Just wondering.

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OK.

You only post what you don't trust?

And...

You don't have any objections to any of the vaccines you've had or may be required to administer that contain:

human albumin, bovine serum, hydrolized gelatin, chicken embryo, rhesus monkey fetal components, vesicle fluid from calf skins, chick embryonic fluid, mouse serum proteins, fetal bovine serum, guinea pig embryo cells, and human diploid cells from aborted fetal tissue ? Even with "vegan" as part of your name?

Just wondering.

What does that have to do with my concern about the safety of the Hep B vaccine?

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Specializes in Peds, PACU, ICU, ER, OB, MED-Surg,.

I've worked in 3 hospitals over 14 years. All required Hep B vaccination. Starting to require yearly flu vaccine (not choice in HCA), must get it or wear a mask from October thru April at all times. Pertussis is being made mandatory for Peds.

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If there is a risk, it is very small. Of the 163 patients that had MS that had the vaccine, only 11 showed symptoms within 3 years of vaccine.

There is a greater risk of getting hep b as a nurse.

Here is more info that brings up some good points.

http://www.webmd.com/multiple-sclerosis/news/20040913/hepatitis-b-vaccine-may-be-linked-to-ms

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What does that have to do with my concern about the safety of the Hep B vaccine?

Goes to determining your thought process. You post of searching google as if it is the answer to everything, then say you don't trust it. You say you want to know what goes in your body, but apparently want to avoid knowing what goes in every other vaccination out there. You appear to be searching for justification for one decision, without taking responsibility for another. The only answer for you appears to be only what will fit your personal wishes, and those wishes are apparently not very well focused, founded or clarified.

In other words, your thinking appears very fuzzy, and this is not a very good thing for anyone wishing to pursue a critical health related profession. Hopefully you will grow out of it.

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Goes to determining your thought process. You post of searching google as if it is the answer to everything, then say you don't trust it. You say you want to know what goes in your body, but apparently want to avoid knowing what goes in every other vaccination out there. You appear to be searching for justification for one decision, without taking responsibility for another. The only answer for you appears to be only what will fit your personal wishes, and those wishes are apparently not very well focused, founded or clarified.

In other words, your thinking appears very fuzzy, and this is not a very good thing for anyone wishing to pursue a critical health related profession. Hopefully you will grow out of it.

What is your problem and why are you attacking me??? Where in my post does it say I think google is the answer to everything? Where does it say I want to avoid knowing what goes into other vaccines? Where does it say I am trying to justify a decision?

I read something things that concerned me so I wanted to find out more about it. Obviously I don't trust everything I read which is why I posted the question here. What is wrong with that? It has nothing to do with my ethical beliefs at all. I am not trying to find a reason not to get the vaccine. In fact it's the opposite, I want the vaccine but some of the things I read made me nervous. It seems like you want this to have something to do with my ethics so you can jump on me. Or you are assuming since I am vegan I must be trying to get out taking the vaccine.

Last time I check making bad assumptions and attacking people weren't great skills to have as a nurse. But hopefully you will grow out of it. Is that focused, founded or clarified enough for you???

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What is your problem and why are you attacking me??? Where in my post does it say I think google is the answer to everything? Where does it say I want to avoid knowing what goes into other vaccines? Where does it say I am trying to justify a decision?

I read something things that concerned me so I wanted to find out more about it. Obviously I don't trust everything I read which is why I posted the question here. What is wrong with that? It has nothing to do with my ethical beliefs at all. I am not trying to find a reason not to get the vaccine. In fact it's the opposite, I want the vaccine but some of the things I read made me nervous. It seems like you want this to have something to do with my ethics so you can jump on me. Or you are assuming since I am vegan I must be trying to get out taking the vaccine.

Last time I check making bad assumptions and attacking people weren't great skills to have as a nurse. But hopefully you will grow out of it. Is that focused, founded or clarified enough for you???

It is not my problem, unless you end up being my Nurse at some point, it is yours.

If you think I am attacking you, just wait till you walk out into the big wide world.

I said you "You post of searching google as if it is..." not that you said it was, I pointed this out where you back-pedaled to saying you only post what you don't believe in, after saying "there must be something to it." (Your switch, not mine).

Where does it say you want to avoid? In your actions of ignoring half my post the last time, you know the part you refused to face until you saw it the third time, squarely in front of you, where you couldn't avoid it.

The fact you ignored it, then get upset about it, shows you don't want to acknowledge that your own personal thinking process is fractured. You want the appearances of one thing (evident by your proclamation in your nick), but not the entirety of the obligations (evident by your avoidance of the truths of your actions). Kind of like all those Sierra Clubbers driving Escalades, it makes you look like a joke, no one can possibly take you seriously as you won't do as you claim to think. That is an ethical and moral swamp for someone who wishes to be a Nurse. Either you don't believe in what you claim, or you have no critical thinking skills.

No assumptions here (except the vegan part, which you confirmed). You can call me enemy all you wish. It's my hope that you won't. It would be disappointing to see you deflated, sad, and wondering about the money you wasted on being a Nurse after you are picked apart by your new friends in a couple of years. You can read the signs along the path now, or fall off the cliff later. Those posts are harder to read than anything else. You know, the one's that still don't get it after they've been 'estrogen poisoned' and dismissed two or three times and can't seem to get a handle on the job or the politics.

My point is you need to be honest with yourself, and come to comfortable terms with everything you are planning to dedicate your life to, otherwise you will be miserable, and wondering where you went wrong with your big plan.

Blaming everyone else for their making fun of you behind your back, tripping you up and forcing you out is not the place to end up. Acknowledging that people will, especially when they see enormous inconsistencies in your character (and they will unless you correct them) is in your best interest. Allowing you to completely consider why this may happen is a gift to you, much more valuable than having to consider why after being blind sided later.

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POTR you are way out of line.

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