HELP DNP vs FNP

[nurseNsearch15]

Can anyone explain the advantages of going ahead and getting my DNP? What can I do clinically with a DNP and not with a FNP? Pay differences? Open my own clinic?

THANKS

[wtbcrna, MSN, DNP, CRNA]

Like I said experience doesn't always trump education if it did there wouldn't be a need for APRNs.

[wtbcrna, MSN, DNP, CRNA]

I know exactly the requirement for nurse anesthesia school and there is absolutely no research to back up that requirement even though anecdotally I agree there should be at least a 2 year critical care requirement before becoming a CRNA. There is evidence/research that practicing nurses that have been out of school too long make poorer students.

Again what I stated is clinical experience doesn't always trump education. You need both experience and the education to be a good provider.

[AllIcanbe]

Wtbrca; are you able to tell me how you practice differently as a CRNA since obtaining your DNP?

Certifications could as well satisfy the continuing education requirement. Nurses do not have to burden themselves with student loans to become a better provider. My employer offers a yearly bonus for each certifiaction (CCRN, CMC,CSC etc) . The pay difference for BSN to MSN is abt $1.50/hr. A diploma/bsn Rn With 2 certifications is even with someone with a BSN/MSN.

Student loans in addition to low pay add to the resentment some APRNs experience after graduation. Advanced education of course may have benefits; it is just not for everyone.

[wtbcrna, MSN, DNP, CRNA]

I am more likely to use EBP to guide my practice since getting my doctorate. In that regard I do practice differently.

No one is forcing the DNP on anyone. You do not have to get the DNP if you want to be NP and only SRNAs graduating in 2025 or later will have to have a doctorate.

The cost of a college education sucks, but just because you don't get 100k more a year for the degree doesn't make it automatically worthless.

Have read the AACN material on the DNP and their supporting references?

[AllIcanbe]

So why do you agree with the ICU requirement for Crna school if clinical experience is not what it is touted to be?

[AllIcanbe]

Pls provide EBP examples that you have incoporated into your practice. Is this in line with your employer's policies and procedures?

I am aware that to remain employed; you must comply with your employer's policies and procedures and not just whip out some EBP..

[wtbcrna, MSN, DNP, CRNA]

I think it makes students understand the nursing role better, a certain amount of experience makes students easier to teach (too much and it makes them more inflexible in their thinking), and it gives every SRNA a common experience level to build on.

A two year critical requirement would also decrease ICU nurse turnover rates and decrease the amount nondedicated applicants for NA school.

Some of the best CRNAs I know had no ICU or ER experience prior to school.

[AllIcanbe]

Some of the best/ excellent RNs I know have no advanced degree. Thank you for engaging me.

Be well...

[wtbcrna, MSN, DNP, CRNA]

1. 100% O2 with general anesthesia

2. TAP blocks with neuraxial opioids for C-sections

3. Dexamethasone with PNBs

4. High flow with nasal cannulas during hypoventilation or apnea to increase the time of O2 desaturation.

5. Low flows with sevoflurane to reduce costs

6. Incorporated different teaching methods based on research

7. Not using more than 1 MAC with isoflurane or desflurane d/t increased systemic inflammation.

8. Eliminating propofol infusions with the preservative sulfa for ICU patients d/t increased risk of lung inflammation.

These are few off the top of my head. I changed all of these while getting my doctorate or after.

[wtbcrna, MSN, DNP, CRNA]

It isn't about an RN or a small group of RNs, but how do Most RNs outcomes compare when they receive advanced education.

There is significant amount of research that show advanced education does help RN outcomes.

[Riburn3, BSN, MSN, APRN, NP]

I'm still wondering where this research is that you keep referencing wtbcrna, showing the "opposite" effect. It sounds fascinating.

[wtbcrna, MSN, DNP, CRNA]

Well since experience trumps education it should be easy to find or you could just look on the AACN website and read through their material..