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Hello advice and thoughts

I have struggled a "hard" life , I was out on my own at 17, and was unable to finish highschool...

I went to college for hairstyling at the age of 20 under mature student status I had to write a test to get into it.

However recently in the last 2 years my life has changed drastically I ended up in school as a Certified Holistic Nutritionist, medical science, health and well being really is where my true passion is.

However I am currently looking to add nursing, I do not have a highschool dipolma so it would seem my only option is LPN /LVN.

I live in ontario canada, and would indeed like to work in the ER or a walk in clinic.

Any advice or thoughts on the subject

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Is there any way to go back and get your GED?

In the US its basically a highschool equivalent of a high school diploma for students who were not able to finish.

That could possibly give you more options when applying, and you could do more than LPN/LVN if wanted then.

I would go back and get your diploma. In the US you would not be able to be a LPN without a high school diploma or GED. You need to complete your high school education first then go from there.

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Post has been moved to the Canadian Nursing forum to generate responses from nurses who live and work north of the northern US border. We wish you the best of luck.

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thank you sorry new to this board.

in canada you can be LPN with mature student status

I am already a CHN, and just wondering if maybe LPN would be a good addition to my credentials

Do some research. LPNs work in ER, NICU, and ICU's.

We are a totally different animal from American LPNs. We are not restricted to nursing homes/LTC as US LPNs are in many States.

PN programmes are also difficult to get into in some areas and many of the marks required for the BScN are identical to those required for the PN Diploma.

Obtaining an PN education and writing the registration exam to become licensed is not to be viewed as a consolation prize for not meeting a universities admission standards.

ER's are not the places to educate people. It's a patch/repair/move them out environment. You never get to "know" your patients. Your practice has to meet the needs of the hospital not your interests.

Walk in Clinics hire far more LPNs than RNs due to the wage costs.

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Do some research. LPNs work in ER, NICU, and ICU's.

We are a totally different animal from American LPNs. We are not restricted to nursing homes/LTC as US LPNs are in many States.

PN programmes are also difficult to get into in some areas and many of the marks required for the BScN are identical to those required for the PN Diploma.

Obtaining an PN education and writing the registration exam to become licensed is not to be viewed as a consolation prize for not meeting a universities admission standards.

ER's are not the places to educate people. It's a patch/repair/move them out environment. You never get to "know" your patients. Your practice has to meet the needs of the hospital not your interests.

Walk in Clinics hire far more LPNs than RNs due to the wage costs.

the perspective school i would be attending would accept me as i spoke to admissions I went to this school before so they have my record/files .

I am trying to do my own research but most of what comes up is american which is not very relevant to canadians.

Ill keep digging a little harder.

thanks for the help

Do you mean "prospective"?

Unless they put your acceptance into writing never believe a word out of the admissions office. Unless you meet and exceed the admissions requirements there are no guarantees. The year I decided to become a nurse the requirements clearly stated mature students needed a 65% in Biology, Chemistry and English at the Grade 12 level. It turns out those were the minimum marks and the actual acceptance marks for a seat in the course were 85%. What is printed is only for reference.

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Do you mean "prospective"?

Unless they put your acceptance into writing never believe a word out of the admissions office. Unless you meet and exceed the admissions requirements there are no guarantees. The year I decided to become a nurse the requirements clearly stated mature students needed a 65% in Biology, Chemistry and English at the Grade 12 level. It turns out those were the minimum marks and the actual acceptance marks for a seat in the course were 85%. What is printed is only for reference.

Sorry typo .

We'll I may try it out , I am still deciding if I want to get into it, helping others is a passion of mine , and being a CHN is extremely rewarding but there are little jobs for this in my current city.

If you need university level courses for admission you can take through ILC in Ontario. Its correspondance and at your own pace.

I graduated from states so i ended up having to prep bio since my american diploma didnt have a sufficient science requirement. I also applied as a mature student.

Good luck.

You can apply as a mature student for a practical nursing program in Ontario. However, you will still need grade 12 chemistry, 12 english, 12 math, and either grade 11 or 12 biology to apply. Also, some colleges require you to write the HOAE to gain entrance. The practical nursing program is very competitive so you will need a good average in your prerequiste courses.

You should be able to get into a practical nursing program in Ontario if you complete the high school prerequisites. Look into taking the prereq's through ILC. You can complete the courses online and at your own pace. If you are interested in receiving your high school diploma (though I don't think you will need it to get into an RPN program), ask the ILC about life experience credits. A friend of mine did this and was granted a bunch of credits automatically due to work experience/college course experience and so only had to take 4 classes to receive her high school diploma. After becoming an RPN, you can then take a bridging program to become an RN if you wish.

While the great majority of LPN positions in the US are in LTC there is certainly no restrictions where LPNs work. Nursing unions work hard to get rid of LPNs as the unions represent RNs and try to make the best money job security for their members.

In my home in WA state LPNs work in all areas of nursing, Acute care, ER, Dialysis, Family care, PACU, etc etc. In fact, in WA the Scope of practice of LPN's allows IV Push meds, wound care, trach care, etc.

The primary difference here between an LPN and an RN is that an RN must do the initial assessment on complicated patients, and an LPN cannot initiate (or 'Hang') a blood transfusion, but may monitor the transfusion.

So in the PACU the RN does initial assessment and then can delegate full care to the LPN. In the acute care and ER settings the LPN is usually task oriented rather than assuming full PT care.

LPN's are often charge nurses and perform PT assessment and write care plans for stable pt's in the LTC setting.

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