Heartbroken. Ball was dropped BIG TIME. Advice?

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This past week has been a very difficult one for my family and me, and I thought I would enlist the help of all you wonderful and wise nurses out there. I'm in need of a little guidance.

Just a little background: my uncle was 57, and he had down's syndrome. He has been in group homes most of his life, and was pretty functional until about two years ago. He started to decline cognitively, and then physically. My mother moved him to a SNF closer to us in Dallas a few months ago, so that we could visit him and monitor him a little more closely, since he didn't get the best care in the small town SNF he was in. At the time of the move, he was pretty much debilitated d/t contractures he developed at the last place he was in, had multiple decubitus ulcers, had a peg tube, and was septic. The SNF we moved him notified us immediately that they were transferring him to a hospital nearby. He improved after a couple of weeks and went back to the SNF. My mother was very involved in his care, and was generally notified if anything was changing. The past couple of weeks she had not gotten a chance to visit, but got report from other relatives that he was doing well. On Thanksgiving, however, things took a turn for the worse. He was found at about 0300 by a CNA, with vomit on himself and shallow breathing. When the nurse came in, he had stopped breathing altogether and was sent by EMS to a hospital nearby. He died at 0413, and the nursing home was notified at 0423 of the death. I'm guessing he aspirated, though we will not know for certain what the COD was until the autopsy results are back.

Now, this is where it gets bad. When he was transferred to the ED, no one in my family was notified. The hospital did not receive next of kin information from the SNF when he was sent. When the hospital pronounced him, notified the SNF, and requested more information on him, someone said they would have the nurse call... no one ever did. At 0715 on Thanksgiving, my mother received a phone call from a nurse, who didn't even have the right name, to notify my mother of the death. My uncle died alone in the ED on Thanksgiving, and was sent to the morgue. When I cried and screamed and asked why no one even called to tell us he was being rushed to the ED, all she could say was "Sorry." No explanation. After we gathered my grandmother and my other uncle together to go see him, he had already gone to the ME's office for autopsy. We never even got the chance to say goodbye. My mother can't afford to have a viering and a burial, so we are doing cremation-- she still hasn't seen her brother, never got to hold his hand, and will only be able to see him through a window before he gets turned to ash. We got a call at 10 pm that same day from another nurse, who sent her condolensces, but still could not offer an explantion.

There is no explanation. There is no excuse. There is no reason on this green earth that my family should not have been notified that he stopped breathing and was en route to the ED. There's no reason the ED should not have been given next of kin info. There's no reason that the woman who notified us could not get his name straight before she called to tell us he was dead. There's no reason that she asked to put me on hold to get another line while I cried and asked for answers. There's no reason that our last chance to see and hold him was so horrible taken away from us.

Needless to say, we are furious and hurt. This was a complete miscarriage of trust in a facility that was supposed to care for my uncle. We understand that people fall ill and can die suddenly, and without warning. Obviously we are upset about the death, but more than that is the break in communication that followed. I just needed to see who I should report this to, and what actions I can take. I'm not looking for retribution, though disciplinary actions is most definitely warranted. Nothing is going to give us that time back, but I want to make sure that this doesn't happen to another family.

Specializes in Med/surg, OB, L&D, psych, ED, etc.

I agree with you, but I also am thinking of the nurse on the other end of the phone, apologizing profusely for the mixup and not trying to make excuses, and just apologizing for the error, just as the writer noted. This wasn't enough for OP. That's what I'm reading.

Specializes in Cardiac.

Maybe I am the devil's advocate, but how is this post relevant to allnurses? Correct me if I am wrong but is this not the place for nurses to chat with other nurses?? I am sorry for the OP's issue, but this is not why I come here...

Specializes in HH, Peds, Rehab, Clinical.
Maybe I am the devil's advocate, but how is this post relevant to allnurses? Correct me if I am wrong but is this not the place for nurses to chat with other nurses?? I am sorry for the OP's issue, but this is not why I come here...

I was wondering this as well, and was all set to respond with a similar question unless I saw it first...

Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.
Maybe I am the devil's advocate, but how is this post relevant to allnurses? Correct me if I am wrong but is this not the place for nurses to chat with other nurses?? I am sorry for the OP's issue, but this is not why I come here...

It sounds to me like she is a nurse. If she was not a nurse, I wouldn't care.

cm- normally I hate it when someone says "I know exactly how you feel" - but it all sounds so familiar to me. With something like this, your mind, body and spirit have a need to fill in the blanks - I remember feeling as though it was almost a yearning to know. It it isn't like a desire for retaliation, a futile attempt to bring our loved one back, or coming from a negative place, really. In my own case, after I felt comfortable with the amount of detail I had, I was able to move on. This included reading my own dad's autopsy report, talking to numerous people, We even spoke to a detective. We didn't want to have anyone collared. We sought information from anyone who could provide it.

In my case it was something as simple as the nurse I mentioned connecting me with the events of that night and giving him some of his humanity back by her tone of voice. It also helped me to get the flag everyveteran is bequeathed upon their death. My family didn't want to have a memorial after his cremation, and I had a need for it.

Maybe I am the devil's advocate, but how is this post relevant to allnurses? Correct me if I am wrong but is this not the place for nurses to chat with other nurses?? I am sorry for the OP's issue, but this is not why I come here...

If this is not why you come here, then ignore post the and move along. Why is it even necessary to respond? Do you respond to EVERY post that doesn't specifically apply to you? I am on this site because I am a nursing student, will be a RN in a matter of months, and I enjoy communicating with other students and learning from nurses who are obviously more well-versed in matters of patient care than I am.

In this case, it was a failure to communicate and notify next of kin upon a patient's death, which IS the nurse's responsibility in this scenario. I wanted to get feedback on what is proper protocol and to see if anyone had any ideas on what steps I should take to ensure that this doesn't happen again. I have received a number of responses from amazing and compassionate nurses who did see the relevance of my post, and have given me guidance to take the proper steps. If you are not one of those people, don't care, don't see the point, or don't come here for this, then leave well enough alone. All you've lost in reading my post is 10 minutes of your time.

Thank you again to everyone's kind words and condolences. We have taken your advice we met with the DON. There weren't certain procedures in place that should have been, and hopefully there will be changes in the way this facility conducts incidents such as these.

You are absolutely correct, luvthegsp-- We just want answers. We don't want anyone's head on a plate or job in jeopardy. We just want answers. We spoke with the DON, and we got those. Knowing that the facility knows they had a deficiency in their procedure will hopefully change the way they operate, and our experience would not have been in vain. I am so sorry about your father, and am glad that you have found some peace with what happened.

I'm very sorry that this happened cmcervantes, it's a terrible thing, I can imagine how awful it would be and I can totally understand your distress and anger. Yes, you should talk to the home about it and I hope you get a proper apology and some reassurance that they have put something in place to avoid this happening in the future.

I'm a little bit reluctant to post this because I don't want you to think that I'm trying to minimise what happened - I'm not. But what I did want to say is that I've been that nurse, the one who didn't phone the family. It was just luck that the resident concerned was okay, and had actually improved a lot by the time I did notify the family.

It wasn't a matter of not taking 30 seconds to phone. What happened was that as the resident was being wheeled out on the ambulance stretcher I was called away to another resident who had fallen. I was still with this resident when another resident fell. It was one of those nightmare days where everything went wrong and I was the only nurse on duty for 50 residents. I knew I had to phone the family of the first resident but somehow with getting called from one emergency to the next I forgot about it and it wasn't until everything had settled down that it hit me like a ton of bricks that I hadn't phoned.

I raced to the phone and I apologised and said I was very sorry, but the family were annoyed. Very annoyed. Understandably. I explained that I had had other emergencies and had then forgotten. I told them I phoned as soon as I remembered. They were still angry. I know it must have sounded like a bunch of excuses and I know they must have thought 'it only takes a few seconds to make a phone call'.

I apologised in person the next time they visited. They said it was okay but I could see that it wasn't really. It took a long time for them to trust me properly again.

I don't suppose it would make it any better, but I hope that your situation was something like this and not a case of proper procedures not being in place. Once again, I'm so sorry that this happened to you.

"Hmmm, you seem more upset about how the notification was handled than about the actual death, am I missing something?"

Perhaps. You may be missing the elemental significance of communication psychology. It's not surprising that the living may accept death more readily than they accept being (their perception) mistreated about the death. The dead are dead. Nothing can be done about that. But how we treat the living, the survivors, can be of more significance. Why do we have funeral rituals? For the dead? No, for the living. I must believe, I have to, that most medical staff understand this intuitively and professionally. Though these accidents happen and miscommunication occurs, we can never accept it as standard operating procedure and fail to communicate empathically,honestly, authentically with the survivors. Fail to do that at your own peril. The consequences can be severe.

I agree completely. One benefit of having to endure this situation is that I will keep it in my heart every day, and use it to better my communication with my patients and their family as long as I am a nurse.

I don't suppose it would make it any better, but I hope that your situation was something like this and not a case of proper procedures not being in place. Once again, I'm so sorry that this happened to you.

No, it was not like this. It was most definitely a case of improper procedure.

Specializes in Med/surg, OB, L&D, psych, ED, etc.

We spoke with the DON, and we got those. Knowing that the facility knows they had a deficiency in their procedure will hopefully change the way they operate, and our experience would not have been in vain.

Ok, time to let it go....Use it in your nursing experience to be the nurse who never does anything wrong or makes mistakes or has a crazy, out of control day... good luck!!

I wanted to get feedback on what is proper protocol and to see if anyone had any ideas on what steps I should take to ensure that this doesn't happen again.

There is nothing you can do to prevent it from happening again. Your family should have been notified and was not because protocol broke down. It is not the first and won't be the last time that a sad error was made.

If it is of any comfort, your uncle died at 0300, in the nursing home, and no notifications would have permitted anyone to say goodbye or give him a kiss.

I am sorry for your loss.

In my case it was something as simple as the nurse I mentioned connecting me with the events of that night and giving him some of his humanity back by her tone of voice. It also helped me to get the flag everyveteran is bequeathed upon their death. My family didn't want to have a memorial after his cremation, and I had a need for it.

I couldn't agree with you more. I am so sorry about your father, and I am glad that you have had the opportunity and strength to make peace with it.

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