Healthcare Workers Still Love Their Jobs

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Heading into the third year of a wearying pandemic, America's health care workers report significant levels of burnout, even anger about the complications of politics and rising incidents of abuse from patients and their families.

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That's why nurses are easily victimized by capitalist agendas which keep their staffing and wages as low as possible. 

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20 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

That's why nurses are easily victimized by capitalist agendas which keep their staffing and wages as low as possible. 

As opposed to those communist regimes where nurses are even more underpaid and overworked.

You're going to pay a price for every little thing you do and everything you don't do. You don't get to choose to not pay a price. You get to choose which poison you're going to take. That's it.

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7 minutes ago, NO JOKES OR PUNS ALLOWED said:

As opposed to those communist regimes where nurses are even more underpaid and overworked.

You're going to pay a price for every little thing you do and everything you don't do. You don't get to choose to not pay a price. You get to choose which poison you're going to take. That's it.

Maybe you could give us an example of the poison you fear. I suspect that you are suggesting that a single payor model for healthcare in the USA, like Medicare, would be like taking a poison. Additionally, it's not clear, at all, why you believe that our federal government is going to switch to communism as related to healthcare.  Most of us prefer our democratic republic to other forms of government, although there is a dangerous push from social conservatives (who oppose single payor) away from democracy toward authoritarian government. 

Or maybe by referencing using a poison you are acknowledging that profit is a cancer in our health system that requires a strong remedy to save the patient.  

What is the price that Americans pay to maintain a fractured, inefficient, often dangerous health care system that prioritizes profit over patient needs?  One of the prices is falling health outcomes and that's not a little thing. 

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/quality-u-s-healthcare-system-compare-countries/

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/longevity/566715-stunning-new-report-ranks-us-dead-last-in-healthcare

 

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14 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Maybe you could give us an example of the poison you fear. I suspect that you are suggesting that a single payor model for healthcare in the USA, like Medicare, would be like taking a poison. Additionally, it's not clear, at all, why you believe that our federal government is going to switch to communism as related to healthcare.  Most of us prefer our democratic republic to other forms of government, although there is a dangerous push from social conservatives (who oppose single payor) away from democracy toward authoritarian government. 

Or maybe by referencing using a poison you are acknowledging that profit is a cancer in our health system that requires a strong remedy to save the patient.  

What is the price that Americans pay to maintain a fractured, inefficient, often dangerous health care system that prioritizes profit over patient needs?  One of the prices is falling health outcomes and that's not a little thing. 

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/quality-u-s-healthcare-system-compare-countries/

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/longevity/566715-stunning-new-report-ranks-us-dead-last-in-healthcare

 

Calm down and get back to me after you work in rural China.  Those nurses are  underpaid, overworked, and underappreciated.  And they're smart as hell, talented, and compassionate.  And guess what?  While good citizens languish in moldy, disgusting, underequipped hospitals in a communist country while the rich continue to purchase what they want anyway.

As far as COVID widening the gap in mortality rates in first world countries compared to the US, that's a strawman.  You were talking about the "abuse" of nurses.  You're switching topics entirely.

Edit:  I really don't want to fight with you, and I appreciate recognizing the American healthcare system is riddled with inefficiencies, but just screeching about how if we got rid of capitalism, it would fix the current problems in healthcare shows a lack of understanding of economics.  

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1 hour ago, NO JOKES OR PUNS ALLOWED said:

Calm down and get back to me after you work in rural China.  Those nurses are  underpaid, overworked, and underappreciated.  And they're smart as hell, talented, and compassionate.  And guess what?  While good citizens languish in moldy, disgusting, underequipped hospitals in a communist country while the rich continue to purchase what they want anyway.

As far as COVID widening the gap in mortality rates in first world countries compared to the US, that's a strawman.  You were talking about the "abuse" of nurses.  You're switching topics entirely.

Edit:  I really don't want to fight with you, and I appreciate recognizing the American healthcare system is riddled with inefficiencies, but just screeching about how if we got rid of capitalism, it would fix the current problems in healthcare shows a lack of understanding of economics.  

You haven't explained why you believe that the US government would initiate a change in governance to make us more like communist China. Our health outcomes were lagging behind the test of the industrialized world before covid...surely you knew that.  And yes, the American profit based health system is often abusive to nurses in the pursuit of higher profits from delivery of necessary care. 

I didn't suggest that we "get rid of capitalism" so maybe it's not me that needs to calm down. 

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10 hours ago, NO JOKES OR PUNS ALLOWED said:

As opposed to those communist regimes where nurses are even more underpaid and overworked.

You're going to pay a price for every little thing you do and everything you don't do. You don't get to choose to not pay a price. You get to choose which poison you're going to take. That's it.

OK then can you stop making jokes? Ta

I live in a country with universal health care. 

No one has had to use the same n95 for a week. We use them once and chuck them. None of this put it in a paper bag, put through UV treatment that may or may not actually treat it. We've had proper PPE from the beginning. 

I really wish that people who claim to be educated would stop spouting such utter fetid mouse entrails

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Socialism itself,  and socialized systems also,  are NOT communism. Social security  and Medicare ring any bells?????

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On 2/22/2022 at 6:43 AM, hppygr8ful said:

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Exclusive: Angry and abused, health care workers still overwhelmingly love careers, poll shows

It would be interesting to see the percentage of just nurses instead of all healthcare workers included. I bet it would be very different!

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30 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

It would be interesting to see the percentage of just nurses instead of all healthcare workers included. I bet it would be very different!

The links in the article allow you to access the data. 

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/poll-finding/kff-washington-post-health-care-workers/

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5 hours ago, SmilingBluEyes said:

Socialism itself,  and socialized systems also,  are NOT communism. Social security  and Medicare ring any bells?????

And for the drama queens amoung us socialised medicine and national socialism are not remotely similar

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They are taking advantage of this love for the job of nurses to keep them underpaid. 

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