I have noticed in the past two days that people are posting threads that are directly angry at the Filipino nurses..simply they are getting the jobs from us!
Well, I have seen nurses coming from Canada, U.K., Mexico and Eastern Europe as well; and it seems to me most of you don't want to mention this. Is that mean nurses from Canada, and U.K. are treated differently?
I could like to point out the Filipino nurses just like many others; they are educated, having strong sense of being team players and working hard just like many of us...Most of all, they are very committed and their overturn rate is relatively low. When it comes to the overturn rate, the management will consider it as a way of saving money! I have seen many U.S. educated nurses will quit their jobs or they just disappeared somewhere... Do I want to work with nurses like that...Of course, I don't! I have been assigned to four patients in the Med/Surg ICU inasmuch as some nurses just called in sick! They are so irresponsible! They jeopardize the patient's lives and my license! It is a mystery for them to become nurses in the first place.
When you look back, this country is indeed built on racism! Look at the African Americans...and I have just proved my point! Has anyone of us recalled there was a vice president who could not even spell the word "potato?" Unfortunately, history always repeats itself and if you have the right skin color, it does not matter whether you can spell some simple words or not....and you will get the job!
At the end, I would rather work with people who are very committed to their work and have the disciplines to go to work when they are supposed to go to work!
How could that not be racism? Did you forget the Canadian nurses and the British nurses? I guess I already mentioned in my thread and it seemed to me you were pretending not to see that! It is OK! You just proved my point!
By the way, I have this Filipino nurse who has been working in the ICU for the past 21 years and never has any sick days! I like to work with her inasmuch as I know I can count on her when I see her name on the schedule! Anyhow, she deserves to have a whole full month in Philippines if she chooses to do so...
Oh my. I step out for a minute, and look where this thread has gone. Let me offer my again.
1) Filipino/a is NOT a race. It is a nationality. Not one person has made a derogatory statement based on race here....
2) Are you aware that many Canadian and British nurses are black, white, asian and arab? Not all are the whites you imply they are.
3) You appear to base your judgment of one's nursing ability on how many sick days they use. I know some great nurses, regardless of nationality, and they all use sick days when they need to. Sounds like YOU need a mental health day.
4) So you would support giving a person a disproportionate amount of prime vacation time based on their nationality? How about fairness to the other staff who needs vacation too? Your work practice "values" obviously don't go both ways.
5) It is up to YOU to protect your license, provide safe care within your ability, and stand up for yourself as a nursing professional. If your unit is unsafe, report it. Management needs to man up and fix these problems. It is you OWN fault if you continue to subject yourself to unsafe staffing ratios, not your coworkers.
6) I work in NY, and during the snowstorm, people who called in sick were given pay for that day based on our inclement weather policy, and were not penalized. Many of our nurses come from far away, and no job is worth risking your life for on the icy roads. Hospitals have disaster staffing protocols, and plans are in place in case of staff shortage due to natural elements. Maybe you just haven't experienced a safe, supportive work environment yet.
7) I choose to judge my coworkers based on their professional practice and nursing skill, not on how many sick days they use, or their country of origin. I have been a minority for as long as I have been a nurse, both as a male, and a caucasian one in a predominantly Filipino unit.
8) Relax, take a deep breath, and give your coworkers a break.
I agree the NJ hospital thread had a great, interesting, unifying debate going and was not racist. That's why it continued for over 132 responses. The "puppy mill" comment was not on the thread about the NJ hospital. "Puppy mill" was a comment on a different uncensored, undeleted thread. That phrase was used on an activist type thread trying to unite American nurses. It was titled something like , "I'm disgusted with American Nurses." It was about unifying American nurses.
My feeling is someone at the tail end of the thread on the NJ hospital (not a Filipino) was offended because not everyone agreed with her. That it is why after 132 responded to the NJ thread it was suddenly censored. I agree it is a total TIME SUCK if certain threads can be deleted after that many different people put time into the debate. This thread is more offensive and makes less sense to me. Why bother posting if your replies get deleted?
I don't' think the other thread that got deleted was so much racist. The OP of that thread made some excellent points about how nurses from other countries stuck together through difficult times, and that nurses in the US should do the same. I think that should apply everywhere, at any time.
But I also recall the words 'Philippine puppy mill nursing schools' used which I thought was very insensitive to our Philippine members here. Not racist as such but it was insensitive.
quote: [if we want to talk about foreign nurses who have no skills at all and are hard to understand, is that would be nurses from india{and no i am not a racist]
So we pick on the Indians now do we?:chuckle
And yes you are racist with that comment. Did your seriously think you fool us and get away with making a racist comment by ending it with 'no I'm not racist? '
Fact is, you have said that Indian nurses have 'no skills at all', their 'hard to understand'. Now according to the Oxford dictionary "racism is a belief or ideology that all members of each racial group possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially to distinguish it as being either superior or inferior to another racial group or racial groups" .
You want to be very careful on what you say from now on and how it will be perceived by others. Please refrain from making racist remarks here.
SteveNNP, MSN, NP
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Oh my. I step out for a minute, and look where this thread has gone. Let me offer my
again.
1) Filipino/a is NOT a race. It is a nationality. Not one person has made a derogatory statement based on race here....
2) Are you aware that many Canadian and British nurses are black, white, asian and arab? Not all are the whites you imply they are.
3) You appear to base your judgment of one's nursing ability on how many sick days they use. I know some great nurses, regardless of nationality, and they all use sick days when they need to. Sounds like YOU need a mental health day.
4) So you would support giving a person a disproportionate amount of prime vacation time based on their nationality? How about fairness to the other staff who needs vacation too? Your work practice "values" obviously don't go both ways.
5) It is up to YOU to protect your license, provide safe care within your ability, and stand up for yourself as a nursing professional. If your unit is unsafe, report it. Management needs to man up and fix these problems. It is you OWN fault if you continue to subject yourself to unsafe staffing ratios, not your coworkers.
6) I work in NY, and during the snowstorm, people who called in sick were given pay for that day based on our inclement weather policy, and were not penalized. Many of our nurses come from far away, and no job is worth risking your life for on the icy roads. Hospitals have disaster staffing protocols, and plans are in place in case of staff shortage due to natural elements. Maybe you just haven't experienced a safe, supportive work environment yet.
7) I choose to judge my coworkers based on their professional practice and nursing skill, not on how many sick days they use, or their country of origin. I have been a minority for as long as I have been a nurse, both as a male, and a caucasian one in a predominantly Filipino unit.
8) Relax, take a deep breath, and give your coworkers a break.