3.4 gpa-doomed?

futureRNhope · May 13, 2015

I think no matter what shape or size it comes in, obtaining an education is better than none. It doesn't matter where, it matters what you make and what you do with the education you receive. Period. =)

Great point.

NuGuyNurse2b · May 13, 2015

Second, when did I say going to a private university means more than getting a Bachelor's degree? What sense does that make? Do you not get a Bachelor's degree from a private university? Now do I think that getting a Bachelor's degree (in nursing in my case) is better than getting an Associate's? Yes, for me it is. Other people think that getting an BSN is not necessary, and for them it may not be needed. That's fine also. Does that make them any less of a person? Of course not. I never said that. However, you are correct in saying that your comments are just your opinion, because they are just that, nothing more.

Here you go. It's obvious to me you are seeing what you wrote as completely different than how I'm seeing it, so I'm not going to belabor the point. Maybe it's harder to judge how sincere your wording is because, oh I don't know, the derisive tone in practically all of your posts make it seem like you're really not just expressing an opinion. But hey, like you said, just my opinion nothing more.

Yes, many public universities do accept credits from CC, and I'm not saying they shouldn't, however some (I'm only speaking from experience so I won't say many or all) private universities will not accept CC credits because they do, in fact, have an easier curriculum.

futureRNhope · May 13, 2015

Here you go. It's obvious to me you are seeing what you wrote as completely different than how I'm seeing it, so I'm not going to belabor the point. Maybe it's harder to judge how sincere your wording is because, oh I don't know, the derisive tone in practically all of your posts make it seem like you're really not just expressing an opinion. But hey, like you said, just my opinion nothing more.

What you just quoted does not state that I said that going to a private university means more than getting a Bachelor's degree nor does it state that anyone going to a CC is any less than a person. What it DOES say is that "speaking from [MY] experience" all private universities do not accept CC credits which was true in my case. Good try though.

NuGuyNurse2b · May 14, 2015

What you just quoted does not state that I said that going to a private university means more than getting a Bachelor's degree nor does it state that anyone going to a CC is any less than a person. What it DOES say is that "speaking from [MY] experience" all private universities do not accept CC credits which was true in my case. Good try though.

You really are out of touch. The implication that CC credits don't transfer to all private university was because you considered it inferior. Now you're evading that by saying you didn't actually write that? OK, but we're not born yesterday and we can see the intention behind what you wrote. My original response to you stated that the reason private colleges don't accept CC credits was simply because it was for financial gains for the university - they don't have to accept it; it doesn't mean the credits at CC were not up to par with their requirements, which is what you were saying, I mean, implying.

futureRNhope · May 14, 2015

You really are out of touch. The implication that CC credits don't transfer to all private university was because you considered it inferior. Now you're evading that by saying you didn't actually write that? OK, but we're not born yesterday and we can see the intention behind what you wrote. My original response to you stated that the reason private colleges don't accept CC credits was simply because it was for financial gains for the university - they don't have to accept it; it doesn't mean the credits at CC were not up to par with their requirements, which is what you were saying, I mean, implying.

[COLOR=#000000]No, you are completely out of touch and just plain wrong. The implication was not that I considered CCs to be "inferior" and that is the reason why the credits wouldn't transfer. It is just that the credits do not transfer to all private universities. That is a FACT. Regardless of what I feel, a fact is a fact. I have said that, based on MY experiences, I found the classes to be easier at CCs; I've blatantly stated that. It doesn't seem like everyone else was born yesterday, just you. Also, I don't have to evade anything; I say what I mean and mean what I say. So, instead of trying to look deep for all these underhanded implications and intentions, how about you just focus on the words stated?[/COLOR]

Kaytayxx · May 14, 2015

Lol I've been reading you two going back and forth.. The REAL question is, does any of this even matter? Agree to disagree?

futureRNhope · May 14, 2015

Lol agreeing to disagree sounds just fine to me.

Phoenix16, RN, MSN · May 16, 2015

Oh boy. Gonna start a bowl of popcorn for this one. And I thought ADN vs BSN was interesting!

I agree with you, this is like getting ready to watch my favorite drama on tv. Not to mention LPN vs RN! OMG I cant stop laughing, these people are nuts.:) :)

Phoenix16, RN, MSN · May 16, 2015

I've never attended a four year college so I have no comparison, but I can honestly and proudly say I have been able to maintain a 4.0 GPA at the CC I have been attending for the past 18 months. Someone mentioned that you are able to see the difference in the test scores if the person cheated, that is not the case for me because I have never cheated, My study habits are relentless. I make notes and record them and listen to them while driving, study on my lunch break, I neglect my family to study (just asked my complaining husband). Yet I can not seem to get a good grade on the TEAS test. My school only requires the reading portion, but for the life of me I can not get pass 36 questions ( I am a slow reader ) so that will always be my downfall. It doesn't mean that I cheated on my other classes why I am able to get this grade, it just means that I lack the skill to answer 48 reading questions in 54 minutes on the TEAS. If I get in the program I wont be worried because I will have 5 hours to complete the BOARDS.

What the poster wrote that her admissions officer said to her is similar to what I was told when I applied to the lpn to rn program at the CC I attend (not the cheating part). She stated that my best bet to get in was to try and improve my TEAS grade because a lot of applicants have 4.0 GPA's.

Like one poster said, there are different variables that depends on getting a good grade sometimes if you're not getting in the high 90's on each test. grading on a curve, using cumulative grade, dropping the lowest grade, extra credits, and even the professor's teaching style may or may not work for your way of learning. All these things can affect your grade no matter if you attend CC or 4 year universities.

Oh yes; and cheating happens anywhere.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/02/education/harvard-forced-dozens-to-leave-in-cheating-scandal.html?_r=0

PinkEagle · May 16, 2015

Today, everyone has a 4.0 b/c they go to community colleges that are not challenging or cheating is rampant.

As controversial as this statement is, in my personal experience (PLEASE READ THAT DISCLAIMER!) I found this to be 100% true! Graduated from a very expensive/prestigious undergrad school and took the equivalent of nursing pre-reqs with med school students who all had high hopes of getting into Ivy League med schools. I was pre-med at the time and those classes were KILLER!! I've never seen so much weeding out in my life!

Cut to a couple years after getting my degree, and after a hiatus overseas, went to my local community college and it was almost the complete opposite experience. The teachers were way more lenient, material wasn't 100% easy but not nearly as difficult/ challenging as my undergrad and the cheating was a pandemic!! I will say that when I was a premed, because of the negative reputations of CCs (how easy they are and cheating), I was advised (by med school reps) to steer clear from taking any pre-med classes at CCs. I was advised this because Med schools weigh classes taken at 4 year universities higher than those taken at a CC, because they want to know you were as challenged academically as possible. When I made the switch to nursing I expected nursing school to have the same mentality and was honestly disappointed when I found out that an A is an A no mater where you took the class, because I knew I didn't have to work as hard as I did in undergrad to get good grades (had wayyy ewer sleepless study sessions) and way too many people cheated their way to the ADN program.

This isn't to discredit people who have gone to CC or decide to go there for financial reasons, this is just my personal experience as well as my opinion. It could just be my local CC sucks but I got into my first choice MSN program so I don't care anymore! I'm very fortunate that I was extremely challenged and learned many excellent skills in my undergrad.

Jsjrin, ADN · May 17, 2015

Obnoxious? No, truthful? Yes! Hey things are different for everybody. I'm not necessarily knocking a community college education because I go to one! I know personally what goes in the classroom. So therefore I am entitled to my OPINION! So would you want someone to be your nurse if they cheated their way?

FolksBtrippin, BSN, RN · May 17, 2015

I graduated from Rutgers with a BA in English. Then I went to a CC to take my prerequisites for nursing school. The CC classes I took were very rigorous and challenging. I got A's, but I worked very hard for them.