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Got really put down by my supervisor today

I have been orienting on CIU and ACCU for around 12 weeks now. 2 weeks were in the classroom and 1 week in another classroom and 2 days in ACLS. Well I passed my BCAT the first pass, I didn't pass another test that forces you to critically think. Since I had never been an RN it was hard to critically think by watching a video of somebody with symptoms, tell what I would do and what I would tell the physician. All in all I got most of the diagnosis right, I just thought into the questions too much. So long story short EVERYBODY takes it twice....

Well, I got a notice to see the supervisors in the office today after my shift. The first supervisor told me she had real concerns that I wasn't taking her schedule seriously??? "I have only asked for one reprint of my 2 week schedule the first month which was lost in the mounds of orientation paperwork. I didn't miss any work and she simply printed off another sheet..." I also lost my evaluation checklist but had been telling all the senior RN's to remember that I did this or that so they could check me off... My supervisor also raised concerns about this... Well, I happen to know another orientee that lost his and other RN's that were taken off orientation b/f ever completing it. My sheet isn't due until Oct 30th and I now have another...

I was also told that I had dosed off in an orientation lecture "which I was floored, uhhh no??.." And also that I was percieved as being cocky in ACLS class? Huh??? She went on to say that I had some real organizational skills issues... "yes I know I have been trying to prioritize better but never put patients safety in jeopardy!" One last thing, she said I don't ask enough questions. I always ask what I am doing and WHY!

So that gives me 9 weeks actually on the unit! I have been with this hospital for 6 years with a spotless record.

WHERE THE HECK DID THIS INTERVENTION COME FROM AND WHY???? DID I NEED PUTTING IN MY PLACE? WAS THAT NECESSARY?

Oh, to top off the cake if I don't pass my next test "which nobody fails ;>)" she said she "at this point" doesn't know if she has enough from me to keep me on........ JUST WOW....I HAVE BEEN TRYING SO HARD TOO....

Sorry so lengthy....

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Since you say you've been there 6 yrs...is this typical behavior for these supervisors?

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Since you say you've been there 6 yrs...is this typical behavior for these supervisors?

No I have been an Exercise Physiologist and a Physical Therapy Aid. 3 different supervisors over the years... I am a brand new RN... I don't know these supervisors...

i realize that some ppl will disagree with me, but i c no need for this type of negative criticism and to be quite honest, I'm not sure i'd want to work for or with ppl like this. For me, nursing is about team work. Mayb they had bad days, still no excuse, mayb there's a personality issue, again, no excuse...mayb they c real potential in you and are cing how you handle pressure and criticism.

I've delt with this kind of rubbish myself in the last few weeks. As a result, I get to do redo my last clinical placement. I think it's more a reflection of the corporate rubbish side of things than your actual ability to do the job. I think you pretty much have to suck up to these people rather than defend your actions, even if you're right. It's horrible that so many dysfunctional people exist in nursing, who would rather pick over you over a few tiny things rather than support you. Good luck.

I've delt with this kind of rubbish myself in the last few weeks. As a result, I get to do redo my last clinical placement. I think it's more a reflection of the corporate rubbish side of things than your actual ability to do the job. I think you pretty much have to suck up to these people rather than defend your actions, even if you're right. It's horrible that so many dysfunctional people exist in nursing, who would rather pick over you over a few tiny things rather than support you. Good luck.

sad but true. believe me though..u will find many kind and caring nurses who "don't eat their young" and those ppl will far outweigh these idiots

Wow.. I can't believe that management actually treats employees like this. I wonder which management training course they learned these skills in.

My first reaction would be to just quit and not put up with their behavior. But that would be really difficult to explain to your next employer. My advice is to show that you are trying to do what they ask and document everything. If they try to railroad you later, it would help your cause to have some proof that you were doing everything that was asked of you.

Good luck

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Whether or not you feel you can salvage this by sucking up enough, you might want to take a good look at the handwriting on the wall and start a job search. That is what I would do in your situation.

Well, I'll likely receive brickbats for this, but here goes:D:

I don't understand what is so criminally wrong about what your nurse manager did.

She didn't address these issues in front of anyone else, she arranged a private appointment with you to address her concerns about your progress. You are on orientation, you know. Orientation is supposed to be used as a time for being guided in the proper way to operate within the unit.

She didn't belittle you, as I read your post. What she said may be considered "rubbish" or "negative criticism" by other posters, but it could also be considered constructive criticism, something that everyone, not just orientees, needs to be able to handle. It is your manager's job to guide you.

In your post, you even admit to some of the issues that she raises....losing schedules, checklists, etc. As to your being perceived as 'cocky,' well I would be grateful to be informed early on that I was being perceived in a somewhat negative way. That way I could work on understanding how I come across in my communication with my peers and instructors.

Yes, you may have 6 years in the hospital, but not as an RN and not on this unit. I believe that your future may rest with your response to this intervention and how well you address the issues that were raised.

Well, I'll likely receive brickbats for this, but here goes:D:

I don't understand what is so criminally wrong about what your nurse manager did.

She didn't address these issues in front of anyone else, she arranged a private appointment with you to address her concerns about your progress. You are on orientation, you know. Orientation is supposed to be used as a time for being guided in the proper way to operate within the unit.

She didn't belittle you, as I read your post. What she said may be considered "rubbish" or "negative criticism" by other posters, but it could also be considered constructive criticism, something that everyone, not just orientees, needs to be able to handle. It is your manager's job to guide you.

In your post, you even admit to some of the issues that she raises....losing schedules, checklists, etc. As to your being perceived as 'cocky,' well I would be grateful to be informed early on that I was being perceived in a somewhat negative way. That way I could work on understanding how I come across in my communication with my peers and instructors.

Yes, you may have 6 years in the hospital, but not as an RN and not on this unit. I believe that your future may rest with your response to this intervention and how well you address the issues that were raised.

lol, i just came back to this post to say very similar things.....i am not an organized person myself....but as a manager (no way!) i would not be favorably impressed with someone who lost important paper work.....the comment on cocky attitude is so subjective, i would probably ask for more feedback on that....confidence and cocky are/can be close.....good luck

i realize that some ppl will disagree with me, but i c no need for this type of negative criticism and to be quite honest, I'm not sure i'd want to work for or with ppl like this. For me, nursing is about team work. Mayb they had bad days, still no excuse, mayb there's a personality issue, again, no excuse...mayb they c real potential in you and are cing how you handle pressure and criticism.

Criticism no matter how kindly delivered will always be seen by some as negative. As supervisors/managers it is part of our jobs to instruct and let people know where they need to improve.

That said, rawrn, c is not a word. Mayb is not a word. cing is not a word.

I'm sure you'll think that was negative criticism, but we speak and write English in this country and shouldn't make up words or funky spellings.

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lol, i just came back to this post to say very similar things.....i am not an organized person myself....but as a manager (no way!) i would not be favorably impressed with someone who lost important paper work.....the comment on cocky attitude is so subjective, i would probably ask for more feedback on that....confidence and cocky are/can be close.....good luck
I see no point at this early hour to rehash the previous couple of posters so I'll just quite morte and nod.

Criticism no matter how kindly delivered will always be seen by some as negative. As supervisors/managers it is part of our jobs to instruct and let people know where they need to improve.

That said, rawrn, c is not a word. Mayb is not a word. cing is not a word.

I'm sure you'll think that was negative criticism, but we speak and write English in this country and shouldn't make up words or funky spellings.

Thank you.

Personally, if people who won't take the time to construct a literate sentence with the words spelled out I won't take the time to decipher it. I accept that internet shorthand is widely used used on message boards, I still find it sloppy and inconsiderate of the people who are reading.

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I understand what some of you are saying. I know this is totally different situation as far as job in this hospital. Some of you just repeated the same thing my father told me yesterday when I got off work and called him. All I know to do is try to have a response for the things she wanted to see an improvement in... Which is what I already knew was what I would do.

What I don't understand is I feel like I need to change my attitude... I am always extrememly nice and courteous to all my coworkers and patients. I always take the extra step to keep everybody happy IMHO.... I know of on RN who gave me negative feedback that had treated me like I was a complete idiot when I was doing post cath cardiac exercise intervention. But, believe me this guy needs a hug BAAAAD..... But, he is a good RN and has alot of experience. I just feel like my manager has only received pecks of information from a few people and did give me some positive feedback of improvement from another senior RN.

Also, I have handled the whole team lately and only had the usual problems of getting choked at the end of the shift. See, I get positive compliments from other RN's but those have not surfaced. I have had more positive sheath removal than negative, "I had 2 small hematoma formation on some bounding pulses that completely massaged out.." On the flipside, I jumped in on a volley ball sized hematoma that was another nurses patient. Kept pressure and did my usuall friendly communication that I do WELL with geriatrics. I successfully encouraged the charge nurse to stop massaging and start calling the doctor and the OR, sheesh..... Successfully communicated "what I knew" information to the OR and the Cardiologist. The very next day I caught another bleeding #8 French on my patient during a scheduled pulse check. Same thing only this time the RN that let the woman the night before nearly bleed out decided to pull the sheath "making me look like she didn't trust me..." But, she had a scare the night before and I think she just wanted to do it...

So, as far as I can see only negative comments were solicited from senior staff. Not the situational life threatening positive stuff....

On a final note, what got me the most was being accused of sleeping in an orientation class. Ya'll remember a time when you have been accused of something you know you didn't do? Its an angry feeling! And, I am left with the challenge of "how people percieve me???" I am a nice guy and simply don't know what to do about this... I try to stay quiet rather than say something stupid.... I always ask questions before I do something I don't know how to do...

I know one thing for a fact, I WILL BE A GOOD NURSE, I have always succeeded in being very good at my previous jobs....

Thanks guys for the feedback.

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