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doctors firing nurses??? :(

what the heck was on er tonight? carter gets to decide how much money to spend on security measures, and then is going to fire three senior nurses to pay for it??? when did docs have anything to do with the unit budget, and when did they start firing nurses?? tell me this is not normal practice at any hospital...please.

i have had it. i know they have a medical advisor- does this guy have delusions of grandeur? does he need a psych consult, or one of those metal charts upside the head? someone on this board suggested an episode from the nursing perspective- let the docs take the background for an hour. i love that idea.

let's start a revolution...i'm off to find a feedback link, and i expect all of you professionals out there to send in letters.

back in a minute.

Hey Heather!

4 more days until what? Looks like I'm out of the loop of henle again.....:p

Originally posted by Furball

4 more days until what?

My birthday! :balloons: :biggringi

Heather

Well folks, I think I discovered why Carter is getting to be a head hauncho & getting the glammy commercial spots...just read Noah Wylie's considering moving on after the '03-'04 season when his contract is up, he says he's dissappointed his character hasn't grown after the stabbing incident and wants to try new things. So maybe they're trying to appease him and give his character some balls after all :chuckle

Actor Noah Wylie to Leave 'ER'

By The Associated Press

ASSOCIATED PRESS

RADNOR, Pa.- "ER" star Noah Wylie sounds ready for a career move.

Wylie, a cast member for eight years, may try something else when his contract expires after the 2003-2004 season.

"I think most actors are born with a drop of gypsy blood, in that they like to be jacks-of-all-trades but masters of none," the 31-year-old actor said in this week's TV Guide. "And I've been sort of a master of this one trade for a very long time. So the need to do something different is definitely growing within me."

Wylie is also disappointed that his character hasn't grown much since being stabbed and developing a drug habit in the sixth season.

"He's been the utility player that you can plug into anybody else's story line as a reactive character or a sympathetic character to allow the audience to see through his eyes," Wylie said. "There have been a lot juicier roles on the show."

Last season, CBS's "CSI" knocked "ER" from its perch as TV's top-rated drama.

I've read all these posts, and I do understand why people are upset. And I do realize it's television, but the bigger piece of reality I took from the episode is that anyone at anytime can come into any hospital and finish the job they started.

I work in a trauma center. We have no metal detectors. We have people who get into fights in the emergency waiting areas and stab each other. We have people who have brought guns into our hospital. No hospitals have metal detectors, and good luck getting them. Your safety is the last thing on administrations list of priorities. Is it just me that saw this in the episode?

I gave up on ER last year, now watch CSI, much better show IMHO......and the fact I don`t know a thing about forensics sure helps. I gave up on Trauma..life in the ER after a show where a new resident got her panties in a bind after what appeared to be a vetern nurse made a suggeation about a difficult patient . Said something like" How DARE a NURSE tell me how to treat a patient!!!":nono: And, IMHO

I use my OFF button alot these days.....and come to this addiction....AllNiurses.....:roll

I agree with Heather - come on folks - it's a TV show. There are SO many other issues that nursing needs to address, ie short staffing, poor pay rates, long shifts w/o breaks. Let's put our energies towards those issues....

:)

Truth be known we can all write letters to whatever station and complain, but what good will it do? They buy the episodes for the season and it has already been written and directed. They have been shot and put together already and will not be changed....chances are the letters won't be really looked at UNLESS there is a drop in numbers. If that happens they may look at them or they may not. It's TV and it's not real......it has an on button and an off button....not to mention a channel changer.......some use it.

yikes, guess I should have posted my thought elsewhere else earilier so not to revive this sleeping thread :eek: Sorry folks :rolleyes:

Originally posted by nrsjo

Is it just me that saw this in the episode?

Nope. I saw it too nrsjo. Like I said earlier, the show may not represent true reality, but it shows as much as I think the general public is interested in, or can handle REAL NURSES are leaving nursing in friggin droves, why would a bunch of couch potatoes stick around and watch the crap we won't even put up with?

I would find it interesting to go to the "AllCrimeSceneInvestigators" website and listen to them b*tch about how unrealistically CSI probably portrays that profession. And I bet I could find some lawyers that think "Law & Order" is a farce. :rolleyes:

Heather

Here is the email that I sent to NBC. The only thing that truly bothers me is that we need nurses! Portraying nurses positively is so important today.

--Just writing to express my concern at the flippant way that characters on your show decided that firing 3 nurses would solve their acute budget problem. I realize that this is "entertainment", but in light of the severe nursing shortage, I find it very irresponsible to continue to portray nursing as a second class profession. As a Registered Nurse who constantly works short staffed I find it particularly offensive. While I watch ER as a means of escape from reality, the general public really does not know the difference. Perhaps an episode promoting nursing or portraying the true value that nurses bring to medicine would be beneficial. Thank you for allowing me to express my concerns.--

Originally posted by NorthernRN

I agree with Heather - come on folks - it's a TV show. There are SO many other issues that nursing needs to address, ie short staffing, poor pay rates, long shifts w/o breaks. Let's put our energies towards those issues....

:)

All of these issues are interconnected..who 's to say that if public oppinion re; nursing were raised , that we could find it easier to address SO many other issues that plague our profession?...come on people....we are all different with different concerns around this issue...we NEED pple adressing the various problems and make differences on many aspects of nursing, not just the ones we deem most important....we shouldn't minimize others efforts to make a difference regardless of where thay choose to place their efforts....isn't THAT one on the ''other issues that nursing needs adressed''...unity, mutual respect,...let's eat chocolate...not each other...:D .......(ok poor choice of phrase for some of you...get your mind outa the gutter:roll ).......LR

OK. I'll do it, too. If you'd like to send an email in protest of the 3 nurses getting fired, send it to [email protected]

Here's the email I just sent to NBC:

ER is one of my favorite shows, and I watch it regularly. Unfortunately, a real problem with the show is the lack of nurses. If it were not for the character of Abby, there are no nurses in "ER." This is laughable since nurses are the backbone of any ER.

I am horrified that you so easily "fire" 3 nurses to buy metal detectors. How about showing what would happen if three nurses were suddenly gone from a typical ER? I can guarantee you that an ER would stop functioning AT ALL if 3 nurses were fired, and the doctors wouldn't be able to function, either.

This country is facing a severe nursing crisis. The networks could help this by a fair and ACCURATE portrayal of the plight of nurses dealing with this shortage and the TRUE reasons for it (management ineptitudes, cost cutting at the expense of patient care and nurses salaries, mandatory overtime, burnout and high stress).

Your show is entertaining, sometimes laughable, in its departure from a real ER. Try putting the nurses back in the show. There's more of us watching than doctors, if you're looking for ratings!

Thank you!

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