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doctors firing nurses??? :(

what the heck was on er tonight? carter gets to decide how much money to spend on security measures, and then is going to fire three senior nurses to pay for it??? when did docs have anything to do with the unit budget, and when did they start firing nurses?? tell me this is not normal practice at any hospital...please.

i have had it. i know they have a medical advisor- does this guy have delusions of grandeur? does he need a psych consult, or one of those metal charts upside the head? someone on this board suggested an episode from the nursing perspective- let the docs take the background for an hour. i love that idea.

let's start a revolution...i'm off to find a feedback link, and i expect all of you professionals out there to send in letters.

back in a minute.

Originally posted by OBNURSEHEATHER

Now Media movies... that's where you should be directing your energy. That's the grossest misrepresentation of nurses.

Heather

LMAO!!! I totally agree!!!:roll

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LOL @ Heather..........

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Specializes in ER.

Why are you knocking Media stars- that's really draining work. I saw a Howard Stern show and those people have to be up for anything. Nasty. Give me a dirty bedpan to clean any day.

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Luka's UP for it.... :chuckle or into it:imbar oh whatever... :D

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Originally posted by canoehead

Thanks Mary Anne.

I think both professions have their idiots and their experts, and nursing is portrayed more as a following profession than as leaders. In actual fact we are often the advocates.

I remember in nursing school discussing how to get an order you wanted from a cranky MD, and one of the techniques suggested by our instructors was to let him think it was his idea. Sad that an approach like that was actually taught in nursing school.

Thanks Canoehead,

I'm LOL !!! I had forgotten all about being taught these things in school (letting doctors think it was their idea when suggesting a med or treatment for a pt.) I haven't thought about that for years and it's absolutly true!!! Remembering it now - it seems like a million years ago - a different world in fact. It is indeed sad that we had to be taught to "manipulate" doctors in order to get medical orders that we thought our pts. needed.

I had an amusing experience with a 'House Doctor" when I was a fairly new graduate nurse that puts a spin on all of this. I called him to report a change in a pts. condition and he came to the floor

to evaluate the pt. After he came out of the pts. room, he said to me, "What do you[/b think this pt needs--cause you know how you nurses are!" I answered, "What do you mean by that!" He replied, "Well, if I don't order what you nurses think I should -- you'll be paging me at 3:00AM to let me know it didn't work." I thought about it for a minute - nodded my head - and said, "That sounds about right." He told me he had learned this the first week of his surgical rotation. I laughed and told him---"see that, you didn't learn everything in med school". I do have to admit that the new breed of physicians graduating med school today seem to be much more down to earth and don't seem to take themselves so seriously anymore. I think patients and nurses all benefit from this newattitude. :roll

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Originally posted by psychnurse.com

Tv viewing will rot your brain

yeah? what's yer point?!?!??!:lol2:

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TV Guide has potrayed the "new generation or ER" in one of their pre season issues, so i am hoping it is an indication of the show continuing. i started watching before i was a nurse, and even though it ticks me off i have to watch. No boos please, my addiction started pre nursing reality shock!

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sunnygirl272,

My point is that, hopefully, the days of "manipulating" physicians (either by letting them think that an idea was theirs or by paging them at 3:00AM to let them know that what they ordered at 8:00PM was insufficient) are a thing of the past. There was a time when it was considered "inappropriate" to suggest a specific medication or treatment to a physician, even if we absolutely knew that it would work. We are patient advocates and the faster that we can get our patients what they need --- the better it is. Playing these games with physicians, that we were taught to do, wasted valuable time in getting our patients what they needed. It has been a very long time since I've done that --- so long, that I had forgotten that it was actually part of the nursing curriculum. "Collaboration" with physicians and speaking out about the needs of our patients is now the norm rather than the exception. Physicians now graduating Medical School are demonstrating a respect for Nursing and value the opinions of nurses caring for their pts. This is what I'd like to see more of on "ER", so that the public gets a more realistic view of what is involved in the Nursing Profession. Now that many Babyboomers are retiring, recruiting intelligent and caring individuals into Nursing is mandatory.

I was just sharing a trip down "memory lane" with all of you and enjoying the fact that --- We,ve come a long way, baby!!! I appolize if I did not make my point clear enough. :)

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sunnygirl272,

I just realized that your message about "What's your point?" was not addressed to me. Sorry about that. I got a message in my E-Mail that stated that you had responded to my post. I read it and responded to you. Sorryyyyyyyy

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