the term "animal nurse" - page 3
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Apr 7, '04Occupation: CDU nurse Joined: Sep '03; Posts: 4,001; Likes: 542i guess i don't see why the vet techs are upset. i mean they knew what their title and education and job description entailed going into it. they had the option of going to nursing school (or at least trying to get in) if they wanted to be called a nurse so why didn't they? they would be much better off promoting and improving job conditions in their own field rather than trying to gain recognition through the use of the term "nurse" when they have not earned it. And this is not to say that they aren't well educated in their respective field but unless you go to nursing school (and pass the nclex) you just aren't a nurse. Same for MD DO DDS DVM etc.. yada yada yada
Apr 7, '04Joined: Oct '03; Posts: 89Just to add.......I have researched vet tech and even applied to a program near me. I wanted to do it because it is less stressful than nursing, less technical, and better hours. I know in England they do call vet techs "vet nurses". Just the way they do it I guess. But I do think that nursing is much harder than vet tech. Some days I wonder why I am still in nursing school and not playing with puppies all day?????
Apr 7, '04Occupation: Operating Room Nurse Specialty: 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER ; From: US ; Joined: Jun '03; Posts: 17,036; Likes: 1,006"I think honestly most vet techs get upset b/c they (most) do work their butts off to help save everyones furry children... And usually get NO respect for it or gratitude."
Maybe if that group of them on that journal website would drop that lousy attitude that they're taking out on the human nurses, maybe they'd have a better chance of respect.
Apr 7, '04Occupation: Tele unit RN Joined: Mar '04; Posts: 247; Likes: 3Quote from prairiegirlIf a stranger came up to me and said she was a "vet nurse" I would wonder if she was someone with a German accent who got paid to suckle other womens' babies...I know in England they do call vet techs "vet nurses".
Apr 7, '04Occupation: Operating Room Nurse Specialty: 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER ; From: US ; Joined: Jun '03; Posts: 17,036; Likes: 1,006If i heard someone say "vet nurse" i would think they work with Veterans.
Apr 7, '04Occupation: RN, ED Joined: Oct '03; Posts: 735; Likes: 75I'm one of those nurses who takes my cats in and questions EVERYTHING the doc says, does, writes, prescribes, etc. I want to know what they are doing for my fur-children.
I pay the people at my vet's office tons of $$$ to take care of my fur-children and I expect them to do a good job. I always say please and thank you and am polite as possible, but they don't seem to respect the work I do as an ER nurse either.
My 13 lb kitty has a bad rep at the vet's office because he's easily upset without his "parents", especially "mommy" around, so if they're being rude to nurses I guess my babycat has my back! :chuckle
I really hope these few are not representative of vet techs in general. I want my "kids" to feel loved when they aren't at home...poor kitties.
Apr 7, '04Occupation: RN Specialty: 15 year(s) of experience ; Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 4,763; Likes: 843Vet techs calling themselves nurses is like janitorial services calling themselves sanitation engineers.
Nothing wrong with being a vet tech. Why can't people be proud of their own accomlishments, instead of trying to lift themselves up by riding on the coat-tails of another profession? A vet tech is not a nurse- in any way shape or form, IMO.
Sounds like some of the posters on that Live Journal board suffer from bad cases of nurse-envy.
Apr 7, '04Occupation: Operating Room Nurse Specialty: 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER ; From: US ; Joined: Jun '03; Posts: 17,036; Likes: 1,006And i hope that peopel are taking a notice of every single reply on this board. Nothing was generalized about all vet techs or anything like that. However, on their stings of put-downs, they referred to all human nurses.
Apr 7, '04Occupation: RN Specialty: 16 year(s) of experience in ICU, M/S,Nurse Supervisor, CNS ; From: US ; Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 384; Likes: 227I thought that was some kind of joke at first when reading the first few threads. It is unbelievable the amount of ignorance that exists on the board. I'm am truly offended and found myself getting very angry at some of the comments. Those people think they have it tough, try just shadowing a human nurse for one day and they'd eat their words.
Apr 7, '04Occupation: Supporting my Cruise habit! Joined: Dec '03; Posts: 207; Likes: 13You know how the saying goes: A fool will despise what he cannot get.
Apr 7, '04Occupation: New RN Grad... Just passed NCLEX.. Working on a Ortho floor Joined: Nov '01; Posts: 1,616; Likes: 37Quote from prairiegirlLess technical??? I think you need to research a lil more.... Also the statement about playing with puppies all day is part of the reason techs are so bitter.. Thats like saying you wipe butts all day!!! Much more to the job than just playing with the puppies...Just to add.......I have researched vet tech and even applied to a program near me. I wanted to do it because it is less stressful than nursing, less technical, and better hours. I know in England they do call vet techs "vet nurses". Just the way they do it I guess. But I do think that nursing is much harder than vet tech. Some days I wonder why I am still in nursing school and not playing with puppies all day?????
And yeah in England they are called Veterinary Nurses.... They don't seem to have an issue with it over there... Why should we over here...
Apr 7, '04Joined: Mar '02; Posts: 1,843; Likes: 1,237I have less of a problem w/ people who call themselves veterinary nurses, than the MA I took care of last week who told me she was dr so and so's "nurse". At least the RVT's are educated in both a clinical and scientifically based curriculum and posess a specific defined body of knowledge, rather than doing things like billing, receptionist, and learning how to give shots or draw blood from dr. so and so. AND WORST OF ALL...people think that they really are a nurse-for humans and they offer advice (often ill-informed or lacking depth) which people think they are getting from a "real" nurse. IF vet techs were to call themselves veterinary nurses, would people not think of them in the same way they think of the veteranarians as an "animal doctor." That doesn't seem to threaten human doctors or cause confusion. It certainly doesn't cause the same type of confusion as when MA's, receptionists, CNA's or whatevers try to pass themselves off as human nurses. As for those vet techs on the bord, yeah they were rather rude. There are people like that in every profession. here's two good links about the topic. http://www.bvna.org.uk/
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Apr 9, '04Occupation: veterinary technician or veterinary nurse (depending on what counry you're in) Joined: Jan '04; Posts: 928; Likes: 586Maybe this is the title that I'm most familar with since I 've been a vet. tech. for nearly 13 years. To me "nurse" implies that I heal people in the human medical field. "Vet tech" means that I heal animals and many times people in the veterinary field. Although a veterinarian may be referred to as a doctor in the barn or exam room, S/he is still referred as the vet. when someone is called with an animal problem. My duties are similar to nurses as many of my nurse clients tell me. Clients are the owners-animals are the patients in this profession. My main focus is on patient care and client education. Client education ranges from the care of young animal's to sitting with clients after a precious member of their household has passed away. Patient care includes everything from keeping the patient clean, dry, and comfortable to more technical tasks such as radiology, ultrasoundgraphy, laboratory, and yes anesthesia. Like your profession of human nursing, compassion and empathy are a huge part of my job. Many times I go home sad, beat, physically and mentally exhausted. However, more times I go home happy elated and proud because I have made a difference in someone's life. This could be the 10 year old with the guina pig that had diet questions (they need Vit C or they get scurvy) to the grizzled rancher whose colicy horse survived the night. I work in a mixed practice where we see everything. This makes this profession very challenging at times.
As far as nurses and other people in the human medical field being ignorant owners or hard to work with, I have not found that as a rule at all. Sure there are some memorable moments like the M.D. who gave lamictal to his dog for siezures. :uhoh21: Lamictal is toxic to dogs but the M.D. didn't know that. He figured that it worked well in people so.... Likewise if I get stepped on by a horse, I'm not going to put a cast on my busted foot although I apply casts to animals at the vet's direction as part of my duties.
I tried to give this answer to those people who posted on live community but was locked out because I wasn't a friend of the poster. All I can say is that with friends like that who needs enemies. :angryfire
The veterinary technlogy field is quite young when compared to the nursing field. I hope that we can grow into a proud profession just as you nurses have. We still have a long way to go.
I'm proud to be a vet. tech.