Surgeon halts operation over foreign nurses' poor English - page 5
Zounds! Figured it would come to this ... notice the idiot suits are threatening the Doctor ... suits not at all medically-oriented with concern for standards and safety -- or common sense :o ... Read More
Jul 24, '02Occupation: Proud and Educated Licensed Vocation Nurse Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 1,286; Likes: 27"...God responds to 'Thank You' and gives me all I need. He did it all for me. Thank You, Lord, for all You've done for me."
I know this is off the topic, but thank you for reminding me to thank Him. You'll never know how your signature blessed me today!
Jul 24, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 75; Likes: 1I do believe that this is PC run amuck. No one (at least in the establishment media) will EVER adress this issue either because it might offend some special interest groups. What a tragedy.
The beauty of liberalism is that liberals will have to live in the world they create. Hope they get some foreign nurse/doctor caring for them with little or NO english skills.
Jul 24, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Nov '01; Posts: 1,487; Likes: 70Originally posted by Stargazer
Not unless it's softer and cheaper than regular toilet paper...
Jul 24, '02Occupation: RN, Elderly Mental health Joined: Jun '01; Posts: 3,115; Likes: 51The chart was in post# 30 on this thread, and it shows #'s of "infected" nurses " if the rate is the same as for the general population"
Btw, it shows the Phillipines as having NO hiv cases at all in the population. How accurate is that?
Aug 5, '02Joined: Dec '00; Posts: 830; Likes: 64Being that I have traveled to a few off the wall countries myself and working in the OR I can tell you with my southern accent I have put a few surgeons into a tizzy , but I have always known the procedure to hand them what was needed. But do understand that Surgeons ask for "thing a ma bobs and doo hickis " all of the time. I commend the surgeon for stopping the procedure, I have had it happen in the current location Im Nursing at Now in Nebraska!!! We have a Nurse from another country that speaks 7 languages but sadly English isnt her best one. But she isnt short to find someone that can translate for her immediately when she needs something.
As for the language barrier : English isnt the worlds 1st spoken Language Mandarine Chinease is....... and other countrys it isnt mandated in school to teach English , but it seems that some of the recruiters for the hospital would make sure that theses issues as Language were clear and instituted prior to allowing them into clinical care. For patients saftey!!!!
Adios, Danke, Shalome, Thia, and thanks from this Southern Bell that currently Lives in Egypt lol.
Aug 6, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Oct '01; Posts: 911; Likes: 4I agree with most of you. Just wonder what are the criterias for selection done on those nurses who don't know how to speak English.
Once inEngland speak english that's their National language, Once in Vietnam speak Vietnamese, that's their langauge OH WAIT....
I knew very little Vietnamese because my Vietnamese colleagues don't want me to learn the language because I will be listening out on what they say during the meeting. They are scared of foreigners that speak their language at work....you know secrets.....
.Well well, I always feel guilty when in the taxi I will say "take me to Hilton Hotel" and the Taxi driver will be confused he don't understand I will try and find a word in Vietnamese.
This is because I should speak their langauge rather speaking english..........so now i memorised the word " kach san hilton"
OR "ngo mot tram bon muoi, Doi Can. ......phewwwwwwwww ********!!!!!:roll :roll
Aug 6, '02Occupation: LPN; Self Employed Joined: May '01; Posts: 334; Likes: 25I'm with you, Sunnybrook. Trying to communicate with some of our foreign docs is near impossible....especially on the telephone...and what about the ones who still write like they've got a wet finger in a light socket!
Aug 6, '02Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 562; Likes: 128OK... this is probably un-pc of me... but here goes.
I agree that nurses who don't speak the language are a big safety risk, no matter where you are. I have caught nurses from other countries making mistakes with communication that range from minor misunderstandings to very serious.
My other pet peeve with "foreign" nurses is sort of a cultural problem... sometimes they just smile and nod and don't ask questions... they *act* as though they understand what you say and what is going on, but the understanding isn't really there. I sympathise with people who have to translate in their heads as they learn a new language.... and I know the frustration and bigotry they experience in society in general is hard to deal with. But I wish they would be more outwardly honest - for the sake of the patients!
Aug 6, '02Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 4,738; Likes: 104ever have one of those days when you feel like you're going crazy because you can't get your co-workers to understand a single fricken word you're saying? you have to spend the rest of your shift checking up after them to see how well they've interpreted your instructions. patience is patience. problem is i only have enough time to explain something once, nevermind be constantly breaking into impromptu games of charades. oh the challenges of nursing!
Aug 6, '02Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 4,738; Likes: 104Pebbles, I know EXACTLY what you're talking about (we live in the same city after all). As if things aren't complicated enough at work, the place is like a cultural minefield. There are so many cliques, if you pizz somebody off, all of a sudden you've got a whole unit with a chip on their shoulder. And godforbid you should open your mouth and say something, you have to worry about whose cultural taboo you might be breaking or whether your words could be seen to contain even a hint of racist undertone. I'm a nurse dammit, not an anthropologist!!!
Aug 6, '02Occupation: RN - ER Specialty: 25 year(s) of experience in burn, geriatric, rehab, wound care, ER ; Joined: Jul '02; Posts: 458; Likes: 557[i]area.
What is with this Doc being called Mr. Dunn. IS that common in England??? [/B]
Aug 6, '02Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 5,673; Likes: 159Jayna, how are you surviving over there with all the language issues???? How are you making this work? do you work in an English hospital or???
I laughed so hard at your last statement about how to say "Get me to the Hilton" to a Vietnamese cabbie....LOL!!! :roll
Aug 6, '02Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 14; Likes: 2I think the surgeon did the right thing stopping the surgery. I haven't met a physician yet that would not repeat something that was not understood due to their accent. The PATIENTS come first