sexual jokes in the workplace - page 3

I'm all for having a few good laughs at work, but I'd like an opinion on this. We have a new male RN and he frequently makes comments that can be taken sexually. He has been there less than a... Read More

  1. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from spacenurse
    Does anyone truly think this is appropriate to say in the presence of professionals at work? I would give him the benefit of the doubt and tell him I heard it and think it is not appropriate.
    I agree with you spacenurse. Not professional. Not appropriate.

    And no, I'm not an old prude.

    We've had this sort of thing happen with one female nurse in particular - very vulgar.

  2. by   kalbo3
    I think it is unappropriate in the work place. We are all supposed to be professionals and work is not the time or place to be talking like that. Just my opinion.
  3. by   danh3190
    As mentioned above, even if nobody were offended by the comment it would still be troublesome. What if somebody were later terminated for some other reason and decided they wanted to cause trouble. They could claim that the employer maintained a hostile work environment by not preventing such behavior. I think the charge nurse needs to be remediated on sexual harassment law. Since the incident showed up on this bulletin board, I suspect somebody was at least a little bothered by the incident.
  4. by   crissrn27
    I don't think this was appropriate either, but I think I am pretty sensitive. I work with all females and most of them have said things like this (and worse) and no one bats an eye. Would you have been comfortable if the nurse saying these things was female? If not someone should really say something. Just don't let gender be the big factor. The things that the nurse said should be the biggest factor, KWIM?
  5. by   allantiques4me
    Quote from buddiage
    I think giving him a silent stare with one eyebrow up and no smile will get the message acrossed.

    I can hack some of that, but if it was repeated over and over again ad nauseum, I'd spell it out for him that these days he is ASKING for litigation.
    I agree with you.
  6. by   clee1
    Quote from TazziRN
    Technically it's also harassment if the surrounding listeners are offended, not just the target. If you don't want to take it that far, what Buddiage said is good. The best reaction would be no reaction.
    ONLY if he has been told to stop it. It isn't harassment unless it is unwanted and requests to stop it are ignored.

    At night on my unit, the conversations can get pretty raw; but nobody has complained yet.
  7. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from clee1
    ONLY if he has been told to stop it. It isn't harassment unless it is unwanted and requests to stop it are ignored.

    At night on my unit, the conversations can get pretty raw; but nobody has complained yet.
    Speaking just for myself . . . that might be because no one likes confrontation.

    I sat through some very graphic and ugly conversations when I first started working. I feel ashamed actually that I didn't say anything.

  8. by   clee1
    Could be.... but, most of us on the night shift are young and we tend to be quite boisterous.

    I cannot imagine any of my coworkers NOT speaking their mind if they were in any way offended.
  9. by   DEB52
    Letting it be is the reason people have been able to get away with this all these years. There are policies on this and this is considered sexual harrassment and inappropiate behavior in the workplace. This situation needs to be dealt with. Why should women put up with this just because he's a fellow nurse?:flamesonb
  10. by   RNfaster
    Quote from TazziRN
    First Year, it does not matter if the comment was directed at the OP or not. If something is said in an open setting and is offensive to any of the listeners, whether the comment is to one person or all of them, it is considered harassment. "I wasn't talking to you" doesn't work. I'm not saying I agree with this, but that's the way the law reads.
    Tazzi is right. I am amazed at the lack of professionalism displayed more often than I would expect in the hospital workplace. --But I come from an office-work background where we received training in harassment, diversity, ethics, and getting along with others, etc. --I am new to hospital work as I am in the midst of career changing. I am guessing that some of what I consider basic training is lacking in the hospital environ due to regular churn and lack of time to spend on it.

    Even if folks aren't offended, it is not a wise topic of conversation. --It's actually rather juvenile. And while the offender and his (or even her) audience may not be offended, there may come a time when someone within earshot is, e.g., a patient, another coworker, brass, etc. Some conversations do not belong in the workplace. ---Conversations of a boisterous sexual nature should be private --amongst friends in a private -not working - environ. To do otherwise is to reduce your though you don't know better and have nothing better to talk though you are rather ignorant....not someone I'd want working on me as a medical professional or someone I'd be proud to have on my be one of my peers. ---By the way, I might make some crude remarks, but you'd better believe they won't be in a professional environment.
    Last edit by RNfaster on May 13, '07
  11. by   mercyteapot
    Where I work, just making these comments is cause for action, up to and including termination. It doesn't matter if anyone complains. It is against the rules, as well it should be. If a supervisor knows this is happening and doesn't address it, it can also be their job on the line.

    You know, every time you read a story about a public figure being forced to resign because of something like this, they give the same rationale given in some of these posts. "Everyone thought it was funny'', "I didn't mean anything by it'', ''no one was offended'', etc.
  12. by   gitterbug
    Everyone can suffer from a case of foot-in-the-mouth disease occasionally. I do think this remark was unprofessional. The student may not have known just how to react to this remark, students are there to learn and have lots of pressure not to make waves. I attempt to operate on the "if I would be offended, then don't say it" rule. We are all guilty of making mistakes, but this guy needs a little guidance on just what is tolerable and what is not. Just follow the Golden Rule, it works great.
  13. by   time4meRN
    What ever happened to speaking up for your self. If someone finds it offensive, go to the person and tell them. I don't understand why people find the need to go to management or other staff and complain. It seems there are so many people on staff that would rather complain and talk about what other people are" doing to them" . Have some guts - tell the person if they're doing somthing you don't like. There is a lot less paperwork and time wasted with BS when people talk to each other about their problems with one another. If that fails then go to other methods .