Plan B

Nurses General Nursing

Published

Anyone else think Plan B will get GROSSLY out of hand? I think alot of 18 years old will be running to walmart every sunday nite!

Also, cant it hurt a woman' s body if she takes Plan b too many times?

Specializes in floor to ICU.

A couple of years ago, my Dh and I had a birth control failure. I used an EC. IMO I'm glad it will be available OTC if used as a Plan B- meaning you had a Plan A but it failed.

Specializes in LTC.
It's hilarious to me that some of you are pretending that you don't have opinions on what other people do. That's like saying I shouldn't think twice if my neighbor beats his kid to a bloody pulp every day. Or if my dad chooses to smoke even though he is diabetic & has a 95% blockage in his Carotid Artery. We all have opinions on things that don't directly affect us.

To have an opinion is human. What most people are saying is that while they may carry certian beliefs, they don't use their beliefs to limit others. I have a lot of ill feelings towards invitro fertilization. I personally can't help but think it's selfish and wrong for my own personal beliefs. Would I tell someone who is having the procedure done how I feel? No. Would I push to get make it illegal? No. Why? Because that's a option other people have. It may not be MY option, but it's their option and they have a right to that.

I won't address the child abuse arguement because that's a slippery slope argument that will depend on what one's definatition of a child is and when life begins.

The idea of other people making health decisions that you don't agree with. That's life. I maintain the idea of 'Your Body Your Choice.' If my mother wants to kill herself through never seeing a doctor and smoking 3 packs a day it's her choice. I may nag her a bit because she's my mother and I care about her, but ultimatly, I can't change her beliefs.

And sorry if I got a bit off topic.

Specializes in Corrections, neurology, dialysis.

Someone, somewhere was discussing frozen embryos. Sorry, I couldn't find it again to add the quote.

Anyway, I remember when President Bush vetoed the latests stem cell legislation and also remembered him posing with what were called "snowflake children."

Not adding fuel to the fire, or at least I'm not trying to, but here is an article about people putting their frozen embryos up for adoption.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/28/national/main712541.shtml

Specializes in Corrections, neurology, dialysis.
What does concern me, and what I have been unable to find an answer to is this: Will men over the age of 18 be allowed to purchase Plan B? If so, I am concerned about the potential for older men to abuse young girls and then give them Plan B to prevent possible pregnancy.

Well, I think if a man wants to abuse a girl and conceal his abuse, I think it would be much cheaper to use condoms. Not only would it prevent pregnancy, it would leave no DNA evidence.

I really doubt this is a viable threat.

Specializes in Clinical Research, Outpt Women's Health.

"Im sorry but you have no opinion on what happens to my body period and NO your not entitled to even think you do. Thats the problem here to many people in other people's buisness. If ya dont like the morning after pill then dont use it but dont advocate against it when one, you will never use it and two, there are other women that will benefit from it. "

Change this to you have no right to decide for me.........................

I totally agree with the rest of the sentiments expressed above. Let each person make their own choice - what is so hard about that?

Specializes in Corrections, neurology, dialysis.
IMO abortion is crossing a moral line and I will ALWAYS be concerned about that. We all have different reasons for caring or being concerned.

Just as you feel it is crossing a line, I feel it is not. I am pro choice and I'll try not to get too inflammatory here. I happen to think that the rights of already-born people supercede the rights of unborn people. Period. End of story. No one can convince me otherwise. I respect that you do not agree, but I would hope that you would respect my beliefs.

I doubt that we will ever settle this argument so there's no reason to debate that part of it anymore. My point is that I want people to leave me alone about MY beliefs. I saw a bumper sticker recently that said "freedom of religion also means freedom FROM religion." That pretty much sums it up for me.

Specializes in Cardiac.
Someone, somewhere was discussing frozen embryos. Sorry, I couldn't find it again to add the quote.

Anyway, I remember when President Bush vetoed the latests stem cell legislation and also remembered him posing with what were called "snowflake children."

Not adding fuel to the fire, or at least I'm not trying to, but here is an article about people putting their frozen embryos up for adoption.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/28/national/main712541.shtml

It was me. I know how G Bush feels about frozen embies, just not how Pro-lifers felt. I plan to adopt out any embies I have left as well, "snoflake adoption".

I have been battling infertility for years, so to hear someone say that IVF is selfish is kinda wierd. I guess motherhood is an elusive selfish thing to me. Oh well, a little OT.

Someone, somewhere was discussing frozen embryos. Sorry, I couldn't find it again to add the quote.

Anyway, I remember when President Bush vetoed the latests stem cell legislation and also remembered him posing with what were called "snowflake children."

Not adding fuel to the fire, or at least I'm not trying to, but here is an article about people putting their frozen embryos up for adoption.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/28/national/main712541.shtml

There was a post about not hearing from religious people regarding assisted reproduction . . . but just because someone doesn't hear about it doesn't mean it isn't being discussed.

There are many folks who have some real misgivings about people creating many embryos in order to achieve one pregnancy. And there is much debate over what to do with those embryos. I like this idea about adopting the embryos. However it won't solve the problem of the thousands of frozen embryos.

I don't have a problem with assisted reproduction - but I do wonder if we have to create so many embryos.

And, if I may ask, what is the reason for nicknaming embryos "embies"?

steph

Specializes in Cardiac.

Is the term embie offensive to you? That's just what we call them (in the infertility world).

You create as many eggs as you do, meaning they super ovulate you, and if you produce 20, then you produce 20. Some don't fertilize, approx 25% (if you're lucky) , so now you have 15. Then some may fertilize, and not grow. Again, of the 10 or so left that are viable, they may place 3 inside of you, and they may not take. For $10,000-25,000, you really don't want that to be your only time, so you have some frozen. But roughly half don't survive the freeze. That's why they produce so many.

BTW, there are almost 500,000 embroys on ice out there today.

Is the term embie offensive to you? That's just what we call them (in the infertility world).

You create as many eggs as you do, meaning they super ovulate you, and if you produce 20, then you produce 20. Some don't fertilize, approx 25% (if you're lucky) , so now you have 15. Then some may fertilize, and not grow. Again, of the 10 or so left that are viable, they may place 3 inside of you, and they may not take. For $10,000-25,000, you really don't want that to be your only time, so you have some frozen. But roughly half don't survive the freeze. That's why they produce so many.

BTW, there are almost 500,000 embroys on ice out there today.

I understand why so many are created . . . I merely wondered if it really had to happen.

As to the nickname - I had never heard embryos having a nickname and was curious. I never mentioned being offended.

steph

Specializes in Cardiac.

I didn't think that you implied it was offensive, but on a thread like this, I had to ask.

Back to the original topic.......Plan B. Although, I think this thread has run its course...

I'm glad it will be available OTC, it's about time.

I have had to use the Plan B, back when it was 8 birth control pills, take 4 one day and then take 4 more 12 hours later, once in 1997. I was 18, it was the second time I had ever had sex and my boyfriend and I got done and discovered the condom we had been using was shredded. It wasn't just broken, it looked like Freddy Krueger had got hold of it and destroyed it. I don't think I would use it ever again, because it made me very nauseous, it felt exactly like morning sickness. I didn't vomit but I sure felt like I was going to all day. I ended up missing a day of school(I was still in high school) and work due to it. I went to my family doctor's office for it and they looked at me like I was the world's biggest slut and I ended up being referred to Planned Parenthood and they gave it to me. It was $55 back then, so I'm sure it's not any cheaper now and would prolly cost more now. I certainly was not a slut and I also did the responsible thing when I found out our chosen method of birth control had failed. I didn't just sit around and 'hope for the best', I took action to make sure I would not get pregnant as I knew that neither I nor my boyfriend at the time were ready for a child.

I will say less than a week later I went to my OB/GYN(who I should have gone to for Plan B, in the first place) and got on the pill to prevent that situation from happenning again.

Condoms do fail, even when they don't break, I have a son to prove that. I was 22 when that happened and had my son when I was 23. We were using only condoms and we never had one break or leak as far as we know but one of them didn't work or I wouldn't have ened up pregnant. Plan B wasn't a choice in that case, but it just further shows that condoms don't always work the way they are supossed to.

Birth control doesn't always work and most of the time it isn't obvious when it fails, but when it is obvious that your chosen method has failed you should have the ability to have access to Plan B.

I think it should be available OTC for situations like mine where I did use Plan B, we used protection and it failed. Instead of sitting around and hoping that I didn't end up pregnant(like some 18 year olds would do), I took the nessary steps to do everything in my power to make sure I didn't end up with an unintentional pregnancy. I'm pro choice, but I know I could never have an abortion myself. I will say chances are I wouldn't have ended up pregnant anyways, as it wasn't the right time in my cycle for me to get pregnant but I will say that taking the pills made me sleep a lot easier until I started my period and knew for a fact that I was not pregnant.

I will say the nausea I suffered was enough for me to say never again to using it unless nessesary. I think the name Plan B states it's purpose well, it's only to be used if your Plan A birth control fails. It certainly should not be used as birth control but I would honestly rather see someone using this as birth control over using abortion as birth control.

+ Add a Comment