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Just wondering about what everybody thinks about the latest "Joe Blow" suing Mickey D's for him being fat. I am sorta of the mind set that no one taped him to the bed and stuffed Big Mac's in his mouth.
I think American's need to take some responsibility and accept that if you are fat it is either a physiological disease process or just your own doing, not Ronald McDonald's! I have little trouble finding the similarities between this and the cancer/cigarettes thing.
Just wondering what anyone else thought.
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Hey, why should an innocent baby suffer because the mom couldn't afford her own prenatal care? Also, if it wasn't for W.I.C...a lot of these babies wouldn't be able to eat. As far as proper medical care is concerned...a lot of people may work in the service industry and may not be offered benefits(I used to be one if them). It cost me almost $400 a month out of pocket for a lousy HMO that didn't cover anything and that was the cheapest.I had to drop it because I couldn't afford it.I then got hurt and had to go to the ER with no insurance. Should I have stayed home instead so not to piss anyone off? Are you really saying that a mother who loves her child but cannot afford healthcare should give the child away? I wish we could reduce the number of unplanned pregnancies too , but it's not gonna happen, unfortunately. There are too many different religions, cultural beliefs and education levels out there and people will do what they will do. As for public assistance, although it may be abused...there are MANY people who do not abuse it and who have fallen on hard times and really need it.
Originally posted by RustyhammerOne of my (many) pet peeves are the warning stickers that manufacturers place on everything to keep from getting sued.
My Brother had a stroller that said "Do NOT fold up this stroller with baby inside! May cause harm to baby"
There are many others...maybe a new thread?
-Russell
Whats that song? Here's your sign...Where's your sign? Goes right along with this. :chuckle
Originally posted by Flo1216Hey, why should an innocent baby suffer because the mom couldn't afford her own prenatal care? Also, if it wasn't for W.I.C...a lot of these babies wouldn't be able to eat. As far as proper medical care is concerned...a lot of people may work in the service industry and may not be offered benefits(I used to be one if them). It cost me almost $400 a month out of pocket for a lousy HMO that didn't cover anything and that was the cheapest.I had to drop it because I couldn't afford it.I then got hurt and had to go to the ER with no insurance. Should I have stayed home instead so not to piss anyone off? Are you really saying that a mother who loves her child but cannot afford healthcare should give the child away? I wish we could reduce the number of unplanned pregnancies too , but it's not gonna happen, unfortunately. There are too many different religions, cultural beliefs and education levels out there and people will do what they will do. As for public assistance, although it may be abused...there are MANY people who do not abuse it and who have fallen on hard times and really need it.
YOu are right that it isn't the childs fault...or if there is no insurance offered...but in equal rights I'm tired of hearing stupid reasons. Such as a 17 year old saying "I didn't know I could get pregnant on the first time" What they thought all the stuff taught in public, school, by peers and parents/adults was just scare tactics, no it's pure EXCUSES to get the blame off of them. Or The guy that smokes and acts like he lived in a sealed plastic bubble and never ever has heard that it is dangerous to your health and now is blaming the cigarette companies...gimme a break you did it it's your fault suck it up and try to make it beter.
I'm sorry do I sound bitter?!?!?!
Welp, all I know is, when I couldn't afford to have kids, I either plain old didn't have sex or used 3 kinds of birth control at once.
I think people need to plan pregnancies, not just get preggers 'because they're emotionally ready' and then expect the taxpayers to foot the bill.
If I'm going to be robbed by the government and forced to pay for someone else's careless judgement, I'd much rather pay for a tubal ligation, a vasectomy, or birth control.
I find it interesting that I managed to control my hormonal urges and do things like NOT HAVE SEX and USE MORE THAN ONE BC METHOD when I wasn't ready to have a kid, but other folks seem to think this is asking too much. I also find it interesting that if I was stupid enough to smoke, I wouldn't go whining about it to the government like someone held a gun to my head and MADE me light up all those years.
My opinion. Don't care if you don't like it.
BTW, this week alone I have taken care of 2 15 y.o.'s in labor, and last week we had 2 crack babies. I have also had my share of 'loving moms' in labor who were 17, 18 y.o. having their 3rd kid. Do I think they should give the kid up for adoption? You bet your butt I do. If you can't afford kids, DON'T HAVE THEM, and don't engage in activity that leads to them. Simple as that.
Their care will be paid for compliments of ME and all the other responsible taxpayers out there.
YOU are responsible to educate yourself in what you partake in. can i get an amen???????? :D
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AMEN! My Lord, I heard on a radio talk show (so it must be true?) that one of the plaintifs is a "male nurse".
I really do like those yogurt parfaits! Probably not low fat yogurt, just delicious.
PS:
I saw different menus at the Oklahoma Mc Donalds when I was there last month.
I ate burgers my uncle and cousin grilled with thick home-grown tomato and bermuda onion slices.
Anyone else heard the song with the line, "There's only two things money can't buy:
TRUE LOVE AND HOME GROWN TOMATOS!
While I certainly don't disagree with this, wouldn't it be helpful to have actual, real-world sex education taught in schools, complete with BC options, rather than NO sex ed, or classes where abstinence is the only BC method taught?Originally posted by shayIf you can't afford kids, DON'T HAVE THEM, and don't engage in activity that leads to them. Simple as that.
Their care will be paid for compliments of ME and all the other responsible taxpayers out there.
Could go a long way towards educating some of these teenage girls who honestly think they can't get preganant the first time, or whatever other misinformation they pass around amongst themselves.
shay
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sjoe, you're right too. And I make no bones about saying I don't wanna pay for anyone else's healthcare but MY OWN. So you had unprotected sex and got preggers, but you're unemployed?? TFB. Get your prenatal care like a good girl, but PAY OUT OF YOUR OWN POCKET. When the kid is born, if you can't afford to give him/her proper medical care and raise them properly, GIVE THE KID UP FOR ADOPTION. Don't get on WIC and medicaid and ask me to foot the bill for your indescretion. You smoked like a chimney for 40 years and now you've got emphysema? Again, TFB. Don't ask me to cough up the $$$ to pay for your tx.
I could go on and on and on......