Just put an end my misery if... - page 4
Just put an end my misery if: - I have a decube that you can fit your fist in - I have fungating breast cancer that you can fit your fist in - I am 500 lbs and pregnant - I am 500 lbs, have an... Read More
Mar 24, '12Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 14,199; Likes: 59,508Quote from r!xterimho, no one here "hates" on fat people, (and this is totally off topic of the op), however, regarding bariatric patients, i find them particularly difficult to deal with because very often the majority of their comorbidities come from being overweight, i.e. diabetes, chf, hypertension, etc, and they come to us needing total care as they are largely helpless (can't walk, can't wipe their own behinds). i can't help feeling that if a lot of these people had not let themselves get to the point of morbid obesity, they would not have the majority of the issues they are facing, and i would not be injuring my back trying to care for them.i'd like to see an go 30 days without a post/thread hating on fat people/fat nurses.
2 weeks ago i had a ~400lb patient come in for *shocker* shortness of breath/chf exacerbation. when the dr. said she would need a dose of nitro the patient said "oh i don't want that! that's the s*** that gives me a headache." to which i responded "well, that's the s*** that's gonna make you breathe." now, understand that i am always very kind to my patients, and i never curse, but i had had it. she had given herself every health problem in the book by being obese, and then comes to us expecting us to fix her, and has the nerve to make that comment. additionally, there is no way she can hold down a job in her condition, as she can barely even talk, never mind breathe, so it is also us who are *paying* for the honor of treating her highness. this bugs me to no end.
yes, i know that often obesity comes from other things, psych issues, etc. and i am fully expecting the onslaught of comments telling me i'm a horrible person for thinking this way.[/quote]
for someone who claims that no one here "hates" on fat people, this post sure hates on fat people.
Apr 8, '12Joined: Apr '12; Posts: 1; Likes: 2I have many friends from the ages teens to senior citizens who are on feeding tubes, TPN or other means of artificial nutrition. These friends would give anything to be able to eat normally but are happy and successful in their own ways. They have gastroparesis as I do. I also have a colostomy, severe arthritis, CIVD, and other things, but I plan to keep on going. When it gets to the point that I can no longer care for myself and a burden on others, then it is time. I do not want to be resucitated in that case.
Apr 8, '12Joined: Aug '03; Posts: 606; Likes: 461To the OP, I took your post as I thought you meant it......not blanket statements but for all those we see day in and day out that we take care of. Not complaining while giving care but knowing we personally do not want to live that way.
Last week we had 3 pts pass that had only been made DNR's within 10 hours of thier passing. None of them would have survived no matter what we did.....it would have just been pure hell for all involved.
Apr 8, '12Joined: Apr '12; Posts: 2; Likes: 1That is cool. I am considering having DNRN tattooed on my arm.
Apr 18, '12Occupation: RN-BSN student From: US ; Joined: Jan '12; Posts: 2; Likes: 1I'm a new nurse recently diagnosed with MS at the age of 31. Personally I'm appalled that someone would choose to be 'put out of their misery' rather than live with a disease I was just diagnosed with.
Apr 18, '12Occupation: RN Specialty: 6+ year(s) of experience in med/surg & Hospice & dialysis ; From: US ; Joined: Jul '08; Posts: 289; Likes: 425As long as the patient is able to make their own decisions, then by all means they should choose treatments that they want.My issue comes in to play when the patient has no idea who they are and family members choose to keep perusing treatments that are painful to keep someone alive that has no quality of life.
Nov 8, '12Specialty: 1 year(s) of experience ; From: US ; Joined: Sep '08; Posts: 691; Likes: 792Quote from OCNRN63Yes, the issues are called ENABLEMENT. Someone is feeding their butt.I'm sympathetic to your predicament, but really...you don't get that big without having some serious issues.
I'd like to see AN go 30 days without a post/thread hating on fat people/fat nurses.
I come from a line of very large people, and most if not all have emotional issues that caused their weight gain. Most also were too stubborn to get counseling and the mental crisis help they needed as well.
I don't hate on fat people or nurses, because I have watched their struggles since I was a small child. However, there is a thing called personal responsibility, and that really goes into play when every anyone is overweight.
And to the OP. Great post! I have always said if I can't function exactly the way that I do right now, do NOT let me stay on this earth because I will come back and haunt someone.
Nov 8, '12Occupation: Registered Nurse Specialty: Med-surg, mother-baby ; From: US ; Joined: Jan '12; Posts: 1,162; Likes: 2,284Quote from JessiAliI dont think the OP was referring to someone just diagnosed. I think they were referring to someone who has had MS for a long time, has seriously deteriorated, and can no longer do anything for themselves.I'm a new nurse recently diagnosed with MS at the age of 31. Personally I'm appalled that someone would choose to be 'put out of their misery' rather than live with a disease I was just diagnosed with.
Look, I get the rose-colored glasses of a new nurse. I was there just a few years ago myself. But experience will open your eyes to reality...or maybe not. I used to think that way when I was a tween and my grandmother, one of my favorite people in the world, had her 3rd fight against breast CA and was clearly going to lose. I was too young to see how much pain she was in. I was too immature to see how tired she was. And there was no way I could understand that she HAD been fighting, and there was just nothing more. I fought with my mom, I was resentful of everyone, because A)they wouldnt let me go see her, and B) I felt she let herself die.
Now...oh gee...I've been the nurse holding a patient's hand, stroking their hair, as all they can do is moan in pain while tears squeeze out of their tightly shut eyes. I've been that nurse who has to dodge patients swinging their IV pole at me because they don't know who I am and are terrified. I've been the nurse digging the nails of a demented old lady out of my arm because she doesn't understand that I am only doing as her family members insisted on by inserting an IV. And if I could only count the amount of times I've had patients who just gave me one of those desperate, pleading looks, because it was all they could do; I was there to turn and position because they had no motor control whatsoever, nothing more than a fully functioning mind in a broken shell.
I admire that you feel this way, really I do. And I think it is awesome that your diagnosis has not dampened your spirits and you are raring for the fight. But sometimes, seeing all this pain and suffering, often with the same depressing end result...well it can definitely do things to you.
Now, I'm going to start investigating how to get that DNR tattoo done since a family member applying a pillow to my face if ever I'm in a hopeless or zero quality of life condition is probably going to be illegal for a long, long time!
Apr 23, '16Occupation: Nurses Husband From: US ; Joined: Dec '15; Posts: 4; Likes: 6Not sure where I fall on this today. I hate extreme measures for little quality of life. I have also just been diagnosed with PAH Pulmonary Arterial Hypertension. Echo shows 90mm hg (Yeah it can be off and inaccurate but w\ 25 being the cut off) I did a 6min walk PFT had to stop to up the O2 flow and finished at less than 200yrds. It's treatable but incurable, and it's progressive. Some day in the not too distant future I may have to define the moment my life ceases to be a blessing and becomes a burden or goes from a burden to a hell.
Apr 23, '16Joined: Jun '12; Posts: 10; Likes: 12I get what you are saying but some of your examples may not be so cut and dry if you are ever placed in that position. As a nurse of 33 years and specializing in Trauma flight/emergency medicine/cath lab/CTPACU .......I, too, at one point thought that not being able to move would be a fate worse than death. Except I now find myself not able to walk but a couple of feet without a walker and only about 10 feet with a walker. I find the side effects of massive steroids daily disturbing as they have turned me into what some would qualify as a grotesque, fat, lazy monster........but my young teenages love me and they want me around. I find I am not so willing to throw in the towel yet and the loss of mobility and my okay figure is not a reason, however frustrating it is and angering it is, to check out of dailiy living.
I deserve to be treated fairly. I desreve to be around for my family. I deserve to contribute to life anyway I can.
Yes Yes thank you. I just got off the phone with my sister who has been battling scleroderma for the last 16 years. She is an amazing woman who wants to live, she wants to see her husband, her daughter, her grandson, her mom, her sisters. At one point she was thinking of hospice and as a hospice nurse at the time I told her whatever she chose I would support. She then told me she didn't want it all to be over....I told her she was the captain of her ship, it was not anyone else's ship to sail, that I will always support what she chooses...it is her life. We as nurses see our patients (most of the time) when they are at their worst. I t is not up to us to judge the decisions they are making. Sorry this is just to personal to me.Last edit by laurelg2 on Apr 23, '16 : Reason: wanted to quote the above