How do you handle non compliant patients??

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I had a patient that was admitted Saturday evening about an hour before shift change. He came to the floor fromt he ER about 1800. He was admitted with abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting and supposed GI bleed. He was NPO. He had stated he had coffee ground emesis at home so they dropped an NG tube in the ER and only got out "green stomach contents" according to the ER nurse. So they pulled the NGT. When he came up to me he was in a lot of pain and extremely nauseous, but no vomiting. We medicated him and then I left. I had the same patient yesterday. He went down for an abdominal US and an upper GI with small bowel follow through. All day he complained of nausea and pain. His belly was distended and firm. He also kept asking to eat. I kept explaining to him and his wife that he was NPO and couldn't eat anything.

At about 1700 yesterday I was going in to check my IV's and his curtain was closed. When I opened the curtain he hurried to shove something behind his back. I realized he had a bag of chips and next to him a sandwich! I asked if he was eating and he hung his head down and said "yes, I am, I'm sorry" I just told him that there was a reason he was Not allowed to eat and that if he wanted to be non compliant that was his business and we can't force him. Sitting next to him was some other lady, who I assume brought in the food because it was food we can't get in our cafeteria. He quickly introduced me as his friend "the attorney" and that her sister was a "medical Dr" HMPH!

I wanted to tell him that when he starts vomiting again not to bother calling me for anymore zofran!

How do you handle things like this? I am still in my 1st year of nursing and this weekend was a HUGE lists of FIRSTS for me.

First patient fall (mom in bathroom with the 22 year old patient, she tripped over her own foot as stated by her) First patient to pass out on me, literally in my arms in the bathroom and now my first patient to go against the rules (That I know of at least! LOL!)

It was not a great 3 days.

I had a patient that was admitted Saturday evening about an hour before shift change. He came to the floor fromt he ER about 1800. He was admitted with abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting and supposed GI bleed. He was NPO. He had stated he had coffee ground emesis at home so they dropped an NG tube in the ER and only got out "green stomach contents" according to the ER nurse. So they pulled the NGT. When he came up to me he was in a lot of pain and extremely nauseous, but no vomiting. We medicated him and then I left. I had the same patient yesterday. He went down for an abdominal US and an upper GI with small bowel follow through. All day he complained of nausea and pain. His belly was distended and firm. He also kept asking to eat. I kept explaining to him and his wife that he was NPO and couldn't eat anything.

At about 1700 yesterday I was going in to check my IV's and his curtain was closed. When I opened the curtain he hurried to shove something behind his back. I realized he had a bag of chips and next to him a sandwich! I asked if he was eating and he hung his head down and said "yes, I am, I'm sorry" I just told him that there was a reason he was Not allowed to eat and that if he wanted to be non compliant that was his business and we can't force him. Sitting next to him was some other lady, who I assume brought in the food because it was food we can't get in our cafeteria. He quickly introduced me as his friend "the attorney" and that her sister was a "medical Dr" HMPH!

I wanted to tell him that when he starts vomiting again not to bother calling me for anymore zofran!

How do you handle things like this? I am still in my 1st year of nursing and this weekend was a HUGE lists of FIRSTS for me.

First patient fall (mom in bathroom with the 22 year old patient, she tripped over her own foot as stated by her) First patient to pass out on me, literally in my arms in the bathroom and now my first patient to go against the rules (That I know of at least! LOL!)

It was not a great 3 days.

If I followed your post correctly, the Pt had gone more than 24 hours without food or anything to drink. No surprise that he's going to sneak something.

Specializes in med-surg, psych, ER, school nurse-CRNP.

Regarding the 4 dudes and the pepper spray, I have a hard and fast rule when it comes to nursing, always have. If I cause your injuries, I do not fix them.

May sound harsh, but, then, if someone has done something to me to have caused me to injure them, I don't really think they would want me to treat them at that point.

Fortunately, that scenario has never occurred, and I hope it never does.:lol2:

4 Large guys cornered me in the hallway and began using very foul launguage and threats to me and my life. All because there mom (my pt) could not eat after midnight and that I was a %#&$! To make a long story short, I contacted security via Code Grey (keep in mind my life is being threatened by 4 dudes), requested a different patient, and was escorted to my car at the end of my shift. (By the way, a coworker had told me that those guys were waiting for me in the parking lot to "Take care of me".)

Why in the hell were they not sitting in a jail cell?

Why in the hell were they not sitting in a jail cell?

:yeahthat:

Specializes in Operating Room Nursing.

I worked on a surgical ward and have had to deal with non compliance for fasting orders a few times. I found that telling the blunt truth that if you eat, you risk vomiting when they stick a tube down your throat, it goes in your lungs and burns your lung tissue worked well.

In the end you just have to document everything, keep warning them but if they choose to ignore what your saying well you've done your best.

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
if i followed your post correctly, the pt had gone more than 24 hours without food or anything to drink. no surprise that he's going to sneak something.

actually, it is a surprise. responsibile adults who have been educated re: the reason for an npo order can go more than 24 hours without food and drink -- especially if they have ivs.

ruby, npo for four days with nausea and vomiting.

Yeah, that is a pain in the butt. And I understand what you're saying. There is a point where we just have to say... okay, it's right to refuse treatment or something like that... but sometimes I wonder if some nurses (and I am in no way implying anyone on this thread is one of them) give up before even really trying.

I believe that some of us, maybe all of us, have given up to quickly one time or another. Especially if we are tired that night and don't have much patience to begin with. And I think that sometimes, it depends on the patient's attitude as well.

Specializes in Emergency, Trauma, Flight.

this is gonna sound bad...

first thing that comes to my mind is IM halidol or ativan....

then again...when one of my pts freak out... i could die...

hellicopters can be really scary w/ a pt that is freaked out

i have sux..... and i will use it!

:cool:

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