HELP! I DON"T WANT TO GO THROUGH CNA first... - page 19
This is really not to put any profession down but I've dreamed of being a nurse for soooo long, now only to discover that before entering my LVN program, I have to get the CNA title first! I am... Read More
Mar 3, '07Occupation: Emergency RN Specialty: 8 year(s) of experience in Emergency Nursing, Pediatrics, Obstetric ; From: US ; Joined: Mar '07; Posts: 43; Likes: 33anyone can become good nurse with or without cna experience, as long as their heart is there. now, that said, i think rquiring cna before nursing school is a good thing. i myself worked 4 years beforehand as a cna. as far as the less-glorious parts of the job, i worked peds right out of school, and my first cath i did for a voiding cystogram was on a female 3 week old infant. i looked down and she peed around the catheter, in the process my face was hit. suffice to say it was my first "taste".......even in peds/nursery, we have our times. even seen a few doctors baptized, so you can be sure that unless, as a nurse rep, you will be selling the newest safety syringes from kendall that are really just like everyone elses safety syringes, you will encounter these things.
Mar 4, '07Joined: Sep '05; Posts: 937; Likes: 136
however if you choose to be one of those kind of nurses be forewarned and prepared - you will not be liked or get along with most of your staff and you will not find a job you fit well with and stay there any length of time.i have seen many nurses come and go who only do "nursing " stuff ( like assess, pass meds, chart, sit at the nurses station and page the cna to get that light or change that person or toilet someone ) they never stay in one place to long cause being a part of nursing requires teamwork - without that the care sucks anbd patients complain and someone ends up fired and it wont be the cna running her butt off trying to care for those 12 residents pooping all day by herself. there are usully a tad bit more ratio of cnas to nurses and i promise you the cnas will gang up and get rid of nurses who are not team players.
i pray for the first resident you refuse to clean up trying to get outta the mess they are laying in - i pray they dont fall on the floor, its not fun. cause now instead of just wiping a bit of poop you now have neuro checks evry 15 min and then half hour and maybe even end up having to get xray and do all the incident reports and charting, not to mention answering to managenment and family, why when you knew they needed help why did you not just do it yourself instead of taking 15 min to find a cna etc - on top of your already full day - it would be wiser to just clean the poop and deal with it.
Mar 4, '07Joined: Sep '05; Posts: 937; Likes: 136Quote from casbeezgirlrni have worked my share of psych myself and the previous poster planning in going there will find they may haveto deal with poop even more than just wiping it up off a butt lol - i have seen irate psych patients hurl wads of bm or thier urinals or bedpans at nurses and other staff , play in stool painting thier bodies and walls like a toddler might , or one in particular i recall would just crap where-ever he felt like it and no there isnt so many aides on psyc its nursing mostly lol - and let me tell you that is a much bigger yuck than wiping any butt any day lolol.calm down, jellibelli is a student who plans on going into psych. unless you plan on going directly into psych. then there is a high probability that you will have to go in the trenches and do direct pt. care.
there are very few places that will hire a new grad that are non pt. care/contact. you will be touching,smelling all types of body fluids, not only poop as many others have already stated. my best friend does l & d. yep, all kinds of lovely,smelly stuff there too! oh, and she hates going in the nursery, having 6-7 crying babies is not always fun .
well, people tried to warn you and now have definitely become .
nobody here claims to "love" working in poop all day, it's just a reality we have all learned to deal with. it just doesn't appear that you are even willing to learn to deal with any unpleasant aspects of nursing. sweety, you can't come out of school and go right into admin.:trout:
good luck, i think you might need it...
Mar 4, '07Occupation: RN Specialty: LTC, Medical/Surgical ; Joined: Jul '06; Posts: 25; Likes: 2WOW, you have been given some great advice! I have 13 years experience of CNA, probabley more than any other in my class. It has been a wonderful benefit to me. Keep in mind, no job (career) will come complete with no faults and I particularly liked the idea of using as great time to assess skin and provide interventions! Best wishes and it is never too late to find something different.
Mar 4, '07Occupation: RN Specialty: LTC, Medical/Surgical ; Joined: Jul '06; Posts: 25; Likes: 2social skills! That is how you deal with any peopleLast edit by shlru0404 on Mar 4, '07 : Reason: to add and make better clarity
Mar 4, '07Occupation: NP for a busy Orthosurgery Program Specialty: Orthosurgery, Rehab, Homecare ; Joined: Jun '05; Posts: 359; Likes: 57Here's my since I think everyone else gave theirs. I hate (as an RN) working with the nurse (you all know one) who comes out of a pt's room and tells the aide that they need on the pot, off the pot, or that they need cleaned up. Unless it's a huge mess, and you are in a huge hurry to do something VERY important, you were just in there and should have done it yourself. Don't be that nurse. Noone likes her/him. The whole person is your patient, this includes excrement from all orifices.
Mar 5, '07Joined: Sep '05; Posts: 937; Likes: 136Quote from dorselmwoah - i hope i am reading an attitude where there isnt one - i know many cnas who hate their job and this post sounds like the attiude they have - and honestly they are bad aides - i have written up and helped get 2 fired and will turn in and get fire any that come in with the same attitude. residents pick up very very quickly on that attitude and DO complain about it - and thier care is NOT caring in any sense of the word.You know what? I can't keep shut anymore! Shame on all of the so called caring compassionate people who have responded with such negativity. It's sad that a person can't come here with a concern and be understood rather than ganged up on and treated rude! Like I responded earlier, I know just what she is going through!!! I did not want to be a CNA and still don't and guess what....I'M A CNA at an LTC facility. I took the job so that I could know that aspect of nursing and so that it would help in NS. I hate it! I love working with some of the patients. I come to work just to see them. When I have a few minutes of downtime, I spend it with the patients. If they want to tell me "how their day at work went yesterday" then I listen and go along with it. But when I have 6 people who have physical therapy and I have to get them fed, bathed, dressed and ready at the same time and they all have to go to the bathroom and some don't want to get up and they're cursing at you and then their families are coming in demanding this that and the other, it can be pretty darn stressful!!! Or I may have some patients who are 300 lbs and want to be put in bed. They can't walk or stand so you have to find someone to help you get them in bed. Which means you have to put on the patient's shoes, take off the legs on the wheelchair, position it and have the other person help you lift this person in bed and then take off their shoes. Then an hour later, they want to get out of bed so again you have to find someone to help you get them out of bed. To get them out of bed, you have to put on their shoes, position their wheelchair, take off the legs, have someone help you put the patient in the chair and then put the legs back on. Being a CNA is hard work! I am used to seeing genitals and I am used to cleaning poop and wiping butts. The nurses where I work DO NOT CHANGE BRIEFS! They get us to do it. They are very busy don't get me wrong and we all work as a team but I have NEVER ever, seen a nurse answer a call light. We answer and if the patient wants the nurse we go get them.I'm not saying that you will never change briefs when you are a nurse but unless you work in ICU, there won't be very many times when you will. That's what CNA's are for. None of these people on this post know me or lookingforward to be able to say we are not caring compassionate people just because we don't want to be CNA's. I am a very loving person which is why I chose the nursing field. My family and my former co-workers in the corporate world always told me that nursing is what I should be pursuing.
To lookingforward I say this... it is very normal to feel apprehensive about the CNA part of nursing but I believe that once you get into it and do it, you will be able to get through it and find that its not as bad as you thought it would be. It's just going to take a little time. It's hard for me because I am slow right now because I like to give my patients good care as opposed to just wiping them down and putting their clothes on. Unfortunately I pay for this by missing my 15 min breaks and sometimes missing my lunch breaks. Pray for God to give you the strength to get through it and He will and in the meantime, if you go to the CNA forum and click on the sticky Free Full CNA Video Course, this will help you out alot. God Bless!
if its not an attitude and youre just venting - id say i am sorry you work with nurses who do nothing to help - i help my aides whenever i can and any nurse who wont help when they can, is not a good nurse period. perhaps they are the ones with the attitude that " they dont want to do poop all day" - can you see where that tone can lead now? working with nurses as you do that do nothing.???? the OP is not going to be a cna- she is going to be a NURSE, with the idea of nursing that the nurses you work with have - noone has been rude only enlightening her to what nursing is suposed to be about , its to bad you would admonish those defending your hard work!!
Mar 5, '07Occupation: RN Specialty: LTC, Medical/Surgical ; Joined: Jul '06; Posts: 25; Likes: 2wow, you really hit the nail on the head. Nice job
Mar 5, '07Specialty: Nursing assistant ; Joined: Jan '05; Posts: 1,476; Likes: 110One thing CNA work can do is build character. That's not such a bad thing.
Mar 5, '07Occupation: LPN at a long-term care facility for kids Specialty: Pediatrics, L&D ; Joined: Dec '06; Posts: 40; Likes: 27Quote from lookingforwardROFLMAO...Well I never said I didn't understand why people commented as thay did. I just feel my honesty was misunderstood! It is possible to be an outstanding nurse without making LTC a living, fine if you find it rewarding, remember different strokes for different folks... it just doesn't seem like it's for me! Sure I will be a better nurse for it in the long run, but I cannot see myself having to change "briefs" ok, not diapers, all day long. I feel my best contribution as a nurse would be in another department. Thanks to all the responses, no matter how harsh. It has opened my eyes, but I'd still rather be in L&D or somewhere else... sorry for the BRUTAL honesty if it offended anyone!
Kiddo.... lemme tell you something.
I have been a CNA for five years and am now working my way through nursing school. I have done SICU, CVICU, Postpartum, Labor and Delivery, Breastfeeding Education, Burn, and Pediatrics.
THERE'S ALWAYS POO. It's the great leveler. (Honestly, what do you think happens when a woman squeezes an 8 pounder right past her colon???)
And if you are getting your LPN and NOT continuing straight on for your RN? You can forget about working in the nursery! You can forget about working in L&D. Those jobs are few and far between and the hospitals are getting rid of them. Guess where you get to work as an LPN... either LTC, or in the hospital in Med/Surg or Burn Med/Surg. Possibly Psych... where, not only will you deal with poo, you will have it FLUNG at you.
For those posters who don't think it's necessary to get your CNA to become a nurse, well, yeah, that's true. But boy has it been helpful to have all of this experience. I spent my first set of clinicals answering basic questions for my fellow students because they had no hospital experience.
As a CNA you also get to watch the nurses and decide what kind of nurse you want to become. I had one nurse in antepartum scream at me because I didn't have a bed changed. She informed me that changing beds was not in her "scope of practice". I reminded her that EVERYTHING in MY scope of practice was in HER scope of practice!
I hate snotty nurses who think they are above the dirty work. The smartest, best clinicians I knew would always jump in with everybody else. And in the ICUs, almost every CODE BROWN I attended would have several RNs assisting along with me!
Mar 5, '07Joined: Feb '07; Posts: 22Wow, that's a really poor way to enter the nursing profession. To help someone who may not be able to help themselves is what nursing is all about.
Mar 5, '07Joined: Nov '06; Posts: 35; Likes: 2That is very sad that you feel that way about older people. However, as a cna you will especially be taking care of the increasing amount of babyboomers. If you do not have compassion and sympathy for people that rely on you, then maybe you should pick a different profession.
Mar 5, '07Occupation: CRRN, now a case management RN Specialty: Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych ; From: US ; Joined: Feb '05; Posts: 38,032; Likes: 69,287To the OP: if you ever end up in the labor & delivery department, you will be cleaning up stinking adult poop. Laboring women are often defecating and pooping all over the table during vaginal births without even being aware of it, and it will likely be your job to clean it up. In addition, L&D departments tend to have an earthy, unpleasant smell due to the smelly placentas, old blood, vaginal secretions, etc.
It was not my intention to be graphic or offend any person with this post. I was merely relaying my observations from time spent in the L&D departments during clinical rotations.