Originally posted by RoaminHankRN
Time to ruffle some feathers! What I love about this forum. Vent some of your frustrations and pi$$ off a few.
Before I make my statement, let me say this. This does not apply to ALL!!!!! (Just the bad apples that stink up the place) Ok...
Had a problem with one of the charge nurses. In our meeting she said, "I've been a nurse for 21 years and that's the way things are." There were some other things said, but that kinda stuck with me. We reconciled so to speak and went on about our business. But I thought more about that comment. So I ask.. what is with these nurses? In these times of a nursing shortage, do we need this kind of thinking? Should not our veterans be the ones the rookies look to for advice and guidance? So if you've been nursing for a long time and you feel, ".. that's the way things are," then you might want to see what your pension or IRA looks like and check out. Times change. It's not 1980 anymore. I look forward to some interesting replies.
(I bet some are going to want to know what the meeting was about) hmmm
Hello there Hank!
At the ripe ol' age of fifty...clearing me throat a bit...and having been on BOTH sides of that coin of once having been a newbie in nursing, and now what you younguns call "grumpy ol' nurses", I would like to share my humble perspective from both sides of that coin with you:
My first reaction to having read your post was: The Generation Gap being different between the younger nurses and the older nurses -- I'm talking about one's age here and not about experience level in nursing.
One of the things I learned in nursing as a student was to see other's point of view from where they were coming from according to what life-stage they were in. I love Erickson's Model the best of all!
At fifty, respect for one's elders was first and foremost, even when they were 'wrong' -- if you will. To talk back and sass an elderly person was just not the thing to do if you didn't want to get "chewed up and spit out".
It's better to give those 'older than thou' their due respect -- if for no reason than the fact they are older and wiser than you in more ways than you can shake a stick at.
When working with nurses older than me, I gave them their 'due respect' according to the life-stage they were in at the time, and when I disagreed with their 'old way of doing things' in nursing, I showed my respect for 'the way they were trained as students' by: (1) HEARING THEM OUT (2) ACKNOWLEDGING THEIR VAST LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE, (3) VALIDATING THEM AS 'SEASONED EXPERIENCED NURSES', and not arguing with them about the way they were trained to do things during their student nursing days. Don't laugh or strut your youthful nursing crown too much for one day another 'youthful nursing student/new grad/young nurse' will come along and make you swallow what you complain about today with those nurses older and wiser than you, and that crown of "get with the times granny" will slip a few inches down to your throat and become a noose around YOUR own aging neck. :chuckle
Yes, technology has become so advanced over the years, that it is often difficult for us to work side by side with those younger or older than us, especially when those we work alongside of have been taught a certain way of doing things. There's always more than one way to skin a cat - if you will.
Just because you know an easier or better way to do something doesn't mean you always have to make an issue of it to get your point across.
You'll find in working with us "ol grumpy nurses" that if you just acknowledge what we share with you from our "school of training and thought", you will find yourself perceived as one who is mature enough to listen and learn new and different ideas than just the ones you were taught.
So, in your future, when confronted with a situation like you described in your post, simply listen, acknowledge and validate what the older nurse is saying, and say to him or her the following: "Gee, Ms. or Mr. so and so, that's a really interesting way to do such and such. I see it's worked well for you in the course of your years as a nurse. We can all learn so much from one another. May I show you how I learned to do that?"
You'll go a lot farther in life if you stop thinking that there is only one way to learn or do something, and that neither your way or the grumpy ol' nurse's way is right or wrong...JUST DIFFERENT!!! :kiss
Socrates in Plato's "The Republic" said, "I enjoy talking with very old people. They have gone before us on a road by which we, too, may have to travel, and I think we would do well to learn from them what it is like."