doctors treatment of nurses??

[nursejllrn]

Does anyone work where the doctor's actually treat the nurses well? You know, friendly considerate etc. In my 18 years as a nurse I have worked in two different hospitals where the docs were actually pretty nice, and on the rare occasion they did act like a jerk, they would usually apoligize. Just FYI both of these facilities were small hospitals. Coincidence?

[CRNA2BKY]

If a doc ever threw anything at me, or abused me in any way, I would immediately call the police and have him arrested for assault and battery. If nurses would start pressing charges against doc's, maybe they would get a clue that they can't abuse nurses and get away with it.

[aloevera]

Oh I am not making any excuses for doc's bad behavior. I certainly am not blaming their rudeness on long hours. I am just saying that with all the perks they have, working good hours is not one of them. Many work far more hours than most nurses do. However, this is indeed no excuse to be rude to people.

understood....agreed....but some have very good hours....the psychiatrists at my facility work from 9-5....the medical docs work from 10 AM- about 3-4 PM......great hours......

[lamazeteacher]

I totally agree. The first time a doc say's I'm stupid, I will stand up to him and give him a moment of pause to reconsider his verbal abuse. I have seen a number of doc's be totally unprofessional, and it irks me to no end how unprofessional this industry can be. When I was an airline pilot, it was rare to see anything but pure professionalism out of everyone.

When you dignify behavior that is inappropriate, with a response you encourage that type of thing. Ignore it, and it goes away.

I must say that flight crews with whom I've been have always been cooperative and professional. Why would you leave that for nursing? The pay isn't as good, and the hours are longer....

In our profession there is more than ample opportunity for insults - from patients to techs to other professionals. If this would upset you to the point of confronting the offending individual, don't go into it!

[kafene]

I don't know if ignoring would work with me. First "offense", sure. Second? MAYBE, but by the third, you definitely haven't gotten the body cues and it needs to be dealt with... Luckily, I'm a student who hasn't had a bad doctor.. yet.

[aznurse1]

Here's the deal... Go to any medical site and see if the doctors are worrying about how the nurses feel about anything. This is your answer, the doctors do not contribute to the relationship with nurses. It is all about the nurse. If the nurse is nice, the doctor will be nice most of the time. The doctor will not tolerate anything but nice behavior from the nurse, because you are an "employee" of his/hers and that is your job. The nurse must do all the work in the relationship, the physician will not take any ownership/investment in the relationship.

[Hilinenursegrl]

I work in a small ER at and IHS hospital. ALL of the doctors are very friendly and open to nurses suggestions. In fact a couple come in after seeing the pt and say "This is my plan.....what do you think?" I love the respect along with the comradery-sp- that all the staff have for one another.

[aloevera]

Here's the deal... Go to any medical site and see if the doctors are worrying about how the nurses feel about anything. This is your answer, the doctors do not contribute to the relationship with nurses. It is all about the nurse. If the nurse is nice, the doctor will be nice most of the time. The doctor will not tolerate anything but nice behavior from the nurse, because you are an "employee" of his/hers and that is your job. The nurse must do all the work in the relationship, the physician will not take any ownership/investment in the relationship.

I must agree with this post, angrynurse.....it seems to be that way now that I think about it.....you do get treated as you treat them, it seems...but isn't that the way it is with anyone????? if you ruffle anyone's feathers, they will get defensive back at ya...... and yes, it is more prominent with the docs.....

[NCRN0802]

I have experienced some real jerks as far as Dr's go. But I have definitely experienced alot more angry, rude, disenchanted nurses.

[menetopali]

Here's the deal... Go to any medical site and see if the doctors are worrying about how the nurses feel about anything. This is your answer, the doctors do not contribute to the relationship with nurses. It is all about the nurse. If the nurse is nice, the doctor will be nice most of the time. The doctor will not tolerate anything but nice behavior from the nurse, because you are an "employee" of his/hers and that is your job. The nurse must do all the work in the relationship, the physician will not take any ownership/investment in the relationship.

while i agree that most docs don't care what the nurse thinks of them, frankly i don't really care what the doc thinks of me either. i am not employed by a physician, i am employed by a hospital. the physician is a contractor in my hospital and is permitted to see patients in my hospital and then bill for work done separately from the hospital. as a staff nurse every hospital that i worked in (with one glaring exception) had this approach - the nurse was a hospital employee and the physician was a contractor, we were professional towards each other and with rare exception we got along just fine. when that exception happened, in all but one hospital - nursing management stood up for the nurse and made it very clear that physicians are privileged to see patients, not privileged to abuse nurses. as a manager i have gone toe-to-toe with two physicians and a nurse practitioner for treating my staff poorly and in all three cases the behavior improved. now, i left the one hospital that allowed physicians to act poorly towards nurses because the management cowered to the whims of the physician - i would recommend that you file a formal grievance against a physician if he creates a poor working environment (ie calling a nurse "stupid" because he can't write clearly) and leave any facility that allows such bad behavior from any contractor.