BSN RN & Certifications not allowed on my badge: I am outraged! - page 5
After much hard work, dedication, and sacrifice I obtained my BSN RN in 2004. Today I walked out of an orientation at a major Raleigh, NC hospital because I was told why I asked why RN's could not... Read More
Apr 21, '09Specialty: 5 year(s) of experience ; From: US ; Joined: Mar '07; Posts: 654; Likes: 892My institution only hires RNs with a BSN or more. But our badges say RN since that is the only credential necessary to show that we are licensed to do our jobs. I don't have a problem with that at all. As a patient, I only care to know what the profession is of the person who is taking care of me--a nurse, a doctor, an anesthesiologist, physical therapist, etc. I don't need to know their educational background--I assume they have met the standards of the institution. If your hospital has excellent standards, then the fact that you are a part of it shows you are qualified to fit the role. That's why we invest the time in money into college--to do our jobs and maintain as high of a standard of care as possibe. Not to wear our degrees.
However, I have no problem putting my education credentials on a resume. And hanging diplomas on office walls seems totally appropriate, though I don't have an office.
Apr 21, '09Occupation: Nurse Supervisor LTC and per Diem Med/Surg, Step-Down Specialty: 5 year(s) of experience in Med Surg, Step Down, Telemetry, Geriatri ; Joined: Oct '04; Posts: 26; Likes: 25Let me make this clear: ...there are many WHO CAN RUN CIRCLES AROUND MANY BSN and MSN grads.....I am not negating this fact! As a result, their accomplishments should also be recognized! As a matter of fact, I think it is unfortunate that many ADNs can not enter certain job fields such as CWOCN and many many many others UNLESS he/she is a BSN. Likewise if the ADN is as passionate about wound nursing perhaps it will motivate him/her to do whatever it takes to obtain her CWOCN.
My ENTIRE POINT is whatever hard work you have achieved you should be allowed to display it and YES IT IS A DEAL BREAKER FOR ME! Again...would we be having this discussion if I were a soldier with a uniform proudly displaying my merits, badges, acheivements etc?????? OF course not. As for the BSN who asked that question....that would have been a great opportunity to EDUCATE her (it is kinda scary...lol) We can ALL learn form each other. Just because my conviction and passion is stronger in some areas than yours does not negate my passion.
Apr 21, '09Occupation: Lead Clinical Nurse Specialty: 25 year(s) of experience in Critical care, neuroscience, telemetry, ; From: US ; Joined: Jun '07; Posts: 112; Likes: 250Wow. You are certainly.....passionate.
Credenetials are kind of fun, I'll admit. I've got my RN,BSN, CCRN and Advanced Clinicial creds all strung out on the front of my name badge. Of course, it's in about a 6 point font, so no one can actually read the damn thing, but hey, I know they're there, right in front of the big blue badge that says "RN" in 72 point font.
Got my CCRN in 1997 - was feeling pretty pleased with myself the day I got my results. Went to work that night, a code was called, and to my complete embarrasment, I realized I didn't know how to open the crash cart. I had the grace to be able to laugh at myself, but it was humbling, no doubt. Kind of had to wonder if I had been educated beyond my intelligence...............
Good luck to you in your new job.
Apr 21, '09Joined: Dec '06; Posts: 2,135; Likes: 3,205A RN is a RN. That's awesome you have your BSN and if you are getting a few extra dollars for that your employer is indeed acknowledging your education.Your employer however prefers your name badges to all have RN on them which is their call. It's also your call not to work there if you feel so strongly about it.
Apr 21, '09Occupation: Nurse Supervisor LTC and per Diem Med/Surg, Step-Down Specialty: 5 year(s) of experience in Med Surg, Step Down, Telemetry, Geriatri ; Joined: Oct '04; Posts: 26; Likes: 25Well the American Nurse Credentialling Center CARES! As a matter of fact...magnet status is reflected in the number of BSN...credentialed nurses! Does anyone here read or subscribe to nursing journals?
Apr 21, '09Occupation: Nurse Supervisor LTC and per Diem Med/Surg, Step-Down Specialty: 5 year(s) of experience in Med Surg, Step Down, Telemetry, Geriatri ; Joined: Oct '04; Posts: 26; Likes: 25Thank you...and thanx for the laugh...not being able to opne the code cart....it has happened to all of us.
Apr 21, '09Joined: Apr '00; Posts: 24,611; Likes: 35,448simba, i find it amusing that you left a magnet hospital (who encourages/requires the use of titles) for a higher paying, non-magnet facility.
if magnet status truly recognized the worth of these titles, you'd think they'd be the higher paying facility.
You are right and that was my DUMB mistake. I left a magnet hospital never realizing what so many nurses were trying to tell me: that eventually the intrinsic benefits far outweigh the money. I learned an important lesson....there are more important things than money....there is recognition of hard work...excellence.....quality improvements..... nursing shared goverance........ENCOURAGEMENT from leadership to strive harder and reach new grounds.....
I have learned that Magnet faciliti es WANT TO REMAIN MAGNET facilties as a result there is a profound comittment to their nurses...I see this now! I made a mistake by leaving for a few cents more....
Apr 21, '09Occupation: Lead Clinical Nurse Specialty: 25 year(s) of experience in Critical care, neuroscience, telemetry, ; From: US ; Joined: Jun '07; Posts: 112; Likes: 250I read Critical Care and the American Journal of Critical Care, I have a BSN, and I work in a Magnet hospital. Both of my bosses are ADNs and frankly, they can nurse circles around me. A good nurse is a good nurse, degree notwithstanding.
Apr 21, '09Occupation: RN Specialty: 4 year(s) of experience in Med/Surg, Acute Rehab ; From: US ; Joined: Jul '08; Posts: 339; Likes: 416Quote from roser13roser13, you are way cool"does anyone here read???"
no, all us adns are illiterate.
that's how we passed the same state boards as the literate bsns.
Apr 21, '09Occupation: RN Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 2,030; Likes: 5,933The main issue, is that hospitals are afraid that if patients see some nurses with "BSN", after their name, they will start to request a nurse who has a BSN. This, in keeping with the present, "customer service" mentality, hospitals would have to start hiring more BSNs, and, "EEGADS"!!!, possibly have to pay them more to revruit and retain them. Heavans to Betsy!
There is no reason that a nurse, who has earned a college degree, a specialty certification, should not be able to put that information on their name badge. Patients have a right to know what the qualifications of their care givers are. Hospitals wish to maintain the status quo of, "a nurse is a nurse is a nurse". It does nothing but help their bottom line. If a nurse feel miffed because she has no college degree, or specialty certifications to put after their name, they are always free to earn a college degree, or a specialty certification, like other have done.
Nurses complain that the reason that they don't like unions, is that all the nurses earn the same, even if they work harder than other nurses who they work with. I feel the same way about my degree and certification. I worked hard to earn them, and it cost me alot of money to earn them and maintain the certification. But under the present way nurses are compensated, I have no ways of increasing my pay as a reward for MY hard work.
Doctors who achieve higher education and training charge more for their services. Nurses, on the other hand, could be expert critical care nurses, but earn the same as a nurses who works in med surg, or the new born nursery. Again, this is exactly what hospitals want. We do ourselves no favor by allowing them to get away with this. JMHO and my NY $0.02.
Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN
Apr 21, '09Specialty: 5 year(s) of experience ; From: US ; Joined: Mar '07; Posts: 654; Likes: 892I'm guessing magnet status does not include a measurement of what letters are on a nurses badge. But I'm sure they can calculate how many BSN educated nurses are working at a facility. My employer knew my educational background when they hired me, and it is part of WHY they hired me. Badges are for identification purposes--if you have a certification in a particular specialty of nursing, it would be great to show it on a badge so that you can be identified as a person who has competency in that field. IDs are practical. If you want to include educational credentials on an additional name tag, that's fine. You don't see that often in other professions. But your resume or CV--that's hot stuff
Apr 21, '09Occupation: RN Specialty: ob/gyn med /surg ; From: US ; Joined: Mar '07; Posts: 2,399; Likes: 1,754good grief .. just go find a job that let's you put those awesome BSN letters on your badge... what's the problem? you have to do what makes you happy and if that makes you happy then do it...
we all have different goals in life, problems , things we value, thats what makes life so exciting and interesting. if your goal is to work for a hospital that has BSN on your badge ,, go for it...
can you go back to your magnet hospital ? see if you can reapply and get your job back.