Are nurses held to a higher standard? - page 2
Something I have been wondering about for awhile: Here in CA, we get an annual "BRN Report Newsletter" that among other things, lists nurses who've had their licenses suspended or revoked. Some... Read More
Jul 30, '02Joined: May '02; Posts: 278; Likes: 5MollyJ & patsue53,
I have no problem with nurses being disciplined for drug diversion or other behaviors having to do with the practice of nursing.
I DO object to the antediluvian attitude that we should be "pure" in every respect. I am a nurse, not a nun (although even The Church has allowed a lot more serious transgressions than our State Board of Nursing does).
The first time I got one of those newsletters I thought "One more reason to get the HE!! out of nursing".
Jul 30, '02Occupation: pre-nursing student, secretary - non-medical Joined: Jan '01; Posts: 1,761; Likes: 46LynniePooh mentioned "bad checks" as one reason for being listed. I read that more and more places are doing "credit checks" on potential new employees. It's now a part of the hiring process.
Was wondering if any of you, while applying for a job, were told a "credit check" would be completed on you.
Jul 30, '02Occupation: poor nurse Joined: Oct '01; Posts: 2,293; Likes: 86Yeah....I was just hired at a hospital...they did the usual background check and also credit check. Weird. I also have to have an FBI background check for my RN license. My heavens...feel like a criminal and I don't even have a speeding ticket to my name.
It is nice to know my coworkers have all been screened though. (although I believe a credit check is overboard) I remember going into adult homes as a homehealth nurse and would be astounded at the type of people they hire. It's easy to know who has a record in a small town. Gypsies, tramps and thieves....
apologise if I offended anyone with that.Last edit by Furball on Jan 1, '03
Jul 30, '02Occupation: returned nurse Joined: Nov '98; Posts: 7,097; Likes: 5,234Long ago my husband and I had separate checking accounts at same bank. Once day I picked up his check book and used it and signed my name to check. You see they looked exactly alike except for our names. Well the grocery store was really nice about it and called me and told me what I did and let me bring down the money. They could have charged me with writing bad checks. How do I know? Because another nurse I worked with did something similar and she was prosecuted. Most business will let it go if you give them the money right away but it is still a bad check. She was upset and worried at the time about going to court, I now wonder if she lost her license. Needless to say hubby and I still have separate checking accounts but at different banks, checks look totally different. Most businesses just want their money and if they get it without a fuss they will not bother to prosecute but they CAN.
Jul 30, '02Occupation: Patient Safety Specialist Specialty: 13 year(s) of experience in Neuroscience ICU, CNRN, SCRN ; From: FL, US ; Joined: Feb '02; Posts: 183; Likes: 8In response to the original question, "are nurses held to a higher standard?", I can only answer by sharing with you that in my current job in the investment world, those of us who are licensed are required each year to report any "outside employment, investments, business interests and affiliations" and we also have to complete an Outside Interest Questionnaire for management "for approval" annually. We must report any criminal offense other than minor traffic violations, but including DWI or DUI in a "prompt manner", and also on that annual survey. We also have to report if we are subject to any litigation including bankruptcy. Employees asked, supoenaed or summoned to appear as witnesses in civil, criminal or regulatory investigations or proceedings of any kind must advise the Director/Resident Manager immediately.
When a licensed individual has their license revoked or suspended, it is reported to the media & general public...I've seen the notices in the Wall Street Journal and on the Internet. But we "may not initate contact with the media or respond to requests for comments or grant interviews without pre-approval by the Director/Resident Manager and Corporate Communications and Public Affairs". (I've taken most of this directly from my Corporate Compliance Outline.) Granted, the primary reason for these rules is to protect our clients, but I also think it has alot to do with protecting the Firm, too. And lately they've had alot of negative media exposure, so they are really keeping an eye on us these days!
So, yes, other professions do have the same type of censure. I guess the bottom line is to mind your P & Q's, no matter what your chosen profession is!
Jul 30, '02Joined: May '02; Posts: 278; Likes: 5ggfifi,
Do these "licensed individuals" lose their ability to earn a living because of a conviction for petty theft?
Jul 30, '02Occupation: NICU RN Joined: Oct '00; Posts: 2,537; Likes: 369I don't believe you can practice law with a criminal record. Am I right ?
Jul 30, '02Occupation: midnite RN Specialty: cardiac ICU ; Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 230; Likes: 120In order to get a license to practice law, you must demonstrate that you are "morally fit". They can, and do, go digging in your past after all manner of things. There was also a white supremacist in ?Nevada? who was denied his license solely on that basis a few years ago. (Not that I have a problem with that, but it seems kind of odd, doesn't it?)
Jul 30, '02Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 562; Likes: 128It used to be law in Canada (don't know about anywhere else) that Teachers were not allowed to drink in bars - public display of immorality or something like that. I don't know if that applied to nurses too, but itshows we are not the only ones.
Our society seems somewhat hung up on morality... not that morality is a bad thing... but that we use morality as a weapon inappropriately.
"YOU are a BAD person!!! You cannot be a nurse. Nurses have to be good people!" Gimme a break!
There's lots of qualities that people would like to attribute to nurses that may or may not be true - they want to have us all fit into the same holistic, wholesome mold. Writing a bad cheque has nothing to do with nursing ability - but it shakes the wholesome image. I think thats why they punish. Ditto for other professions.
Jul 31, '02Occupation: poor nurse Joined: Oct '01; Posts: 2,293; Likes: 86Originally posted by dawngloves
I don't believe you can practice law with a criminal record. Am I right ?
Oh....I thought you COULDN'T practice law until you HAD a record?
just a joke guys....
Jul 31, '02Occupation: ER RN Specialty: ER,ICU,L&D,OR,ETC ; Joined: May '01; Posts: 5,588; Likes: 566Howdy yall
from deep in the heat of texas
I didnt think any attorneys were morally fit for anything