An admin vent of sorts - page 2
I feel so stressed right now. Have to go back to work tomorrow. I'm off today but called in sick yesterday and haven't felt well since Sunday - felt really lousy Sunday; it was a good thing I already... Read More
Feb 10, '07Joined: Jul '06; Posts: 322; Likes: 47One more reason to go nocs!
Hey ertravelrn, I have this image of travelers being treated like garbage. So what's your scoop? What makes the difference for you?
Feb 11, '07Occupation: Med/Surg Specialty: 8 year(s) of experience in ER, Med/Surg ; From: US ; Joined: Aug '06; Posts: 481; Likes: 518I just saw a presentation of "magnet" hospitals last week. It sounded like a lot of noise, with no real work.
I worked in the Fire industry for a while and Magnet status seems to be a lot like things being NFPA approved: it doesn't really mean much except a sticker.
Feb 11, '07Joined: Jul '06; Posts: 1,394; Likes: 217Welcome to Nursing.
No real suggestions here. Your assessment is right on, unfortunately, judging by my own experiences over a lot of years.
Actually, I do have a suggestion. It might be time to get out of Nursing, not that some other profession might not be just as bad.
Feb 11, '07Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 38,000; Likes: 37,223My original post disappeared so I have to redo it. I reread your post. You are disillusioned. Me too. Happens to those who discern the difference between "job" and "calling". Your first post on this thread sounded like I could have written it myself at this point in time. The startlling truth is this: no matter what you think, admin/mgmt are not there for you any further than you serve their purposes. I made the same mistake. It is too much for an indiv who is pt centered, rather than selfish. At some point in time you will realize where you figure into the great scheme of things. I wish you luck. You have to find your own way to maintain sanity and get what you, yourself, want from your job. Never fall into the trap that makes you believe that mgmt cares more than you do about a pt's well-being. Take care and approach ea shift w/your pts as if it were your last. Peace.Last edit by caliotter3 on Feb 11, '07
Feb 11, '07Joined: Jul '06; Posts: 322; Likes: 47Thanks for the imput. Yeah, I've been wondering if where I am in nursing's just not where I need to be. I love being in the medical field - it's the only place I want to be - but there're so many opportunities out there, so many different "types." The lengthy list of specialties on these boards is proof enough of that, and I'm sure there are more that don't have forums just for them! Thanks for your encouraging words... I have definately become disillusioned over the past...probably three months more than others, but through my disillusionment I've come to realize this is still where I want to be; just maybe in a different type capacity.
Feb 11, '07Occupation: Nursing Faculty Specialty: 15 year(s) of experience in Trauma,ER,CCU/OHU/Nsg Ed/Nsg Research ; From: US ; Joined: May '02; Posts: 8,317; Likes: 6,285Quote from Myxel67Wow- I think we've worked for the same manager. I swear, my former manager was one of the most negative people I have ever met.
My manager is an extreme micromanager who wants to tell us exactly what to do and when to do it. Oh, and how she's done our jobs in the past and had absolutely no problem doing everything perfectly. She reprimands staff in public areas. If you say something good about a team member, she'll say "yes, but," and then say something negative about that person. She will tell one member of the team that another member has had complaints about them.
Feb 11, '07Specialty: 14 year(s) of experience in icu,ccu, er, corrections ; Joined: Feb '07; Posts: 364; Likes: 34Stillpressingon, by traveling I am not required to go to meetings, and by working the night shift I am not around management very much. By traveling I am allowed to come in and take care of my patients without having to worry about the hospitals issues (continuing problems that they have not worked out, budget issues, staffing issues). I have traveled on/off for the past five years, I have taken two staff positions at hospitals that I traveled to. Once I became staff, I was required to join committees, charge, etc. I am not against being responsible for my self or being responsible with the hospitals resources, I just don't want that to be my focus..........I want my patients to be my focus and traveling allows me that.
Feb 12, '07Joined: Nov '06; Posts: 3,125; Likes: 2,996Quote from paradisemakaiI have found that HR will not be an advocate for you either, remember HR is also an employeee of the corporation and will do their bidding, they are not to be trusted.Here's the link to ANCC/magnet hospitals:
I believe that how well a department functions and how happy the staff are is in direct relationship to how well management/administration does their job. I refuse to work at a place where management is not good - it just never works out for me. I unfortunately don't live in a state with a magnet hospital, but if I did, I'd be camped out at their HR office. I'm in an MSN program for adminstration, which is how I learned about magnet hospitals. I've also become a NURSE advocate along the way - we need to protect and support ourselves and each other.
Feb 12, '07Joined: Feb '07; Posts: 8Quote from ertravelrnStillpressingon, by traveling I am not required to go to meetings, and by working the night shift I am not around management very much. By traveling I am allowed to come in and take care of my patients without having to worry about the hospitals issues (continuing problems that they have not worked out, budget issues, staffing issues). I have traveled on/off for the past five years, I have taken two staff positions at hospitals that I traveled to. Once I became staff, I was required to join committees, charge, etc. I am not against being responsible for my self or being responsible with the hospitals resources, I just don't want that to be my focus..........I want my patients to be my focus and traveling allows me that.
Hey ertravelrn what company do your work for? I have been thinking about traveling but i am not sure how to find the company's in my area or company's that service my area i live in Cadiz ky and i would like to check out this possibilty can you help me out?
Feb 12, '07Specialty: 14 year(s) of experience in icu,ccu, er, corrections ; Joined: Feb '07; Posts: 364; Likes: 34ldixn1217,
I actually travel with a company that many complain about. It is Intelistaf. I have never had any problem with them and they have actually gone out of their way to help me during a crisis. Perhaps this is due to my recruiter.....and not the company. I have used another company called q-shift, and they were fine, nothing extrodinary, but okay.
Hope this helps.
Feb 12, '07Occupation: L&D nurse Specialty: LTC, Home Health, L&D, Nsy, PP ; Joined: Sep '03; Posts: 146; Likes: 38Quote from caliotter3Too funny! I know what you mean. At Christmas we had a contest for decorating. The nightshift did EVERYTHING! Our unit won and the day shift got the prize!Canoehead how right you are! And if you're lucky you won't even get the memos, b/c as we all know, night shift ain't worth admitting that they even exist! So of course they forget to leave the memos for night shift, per standard procedure!
Does anyone else get tired of getting memos because ONE person screws up badly? Instead of talking to the person who messed up, they send blanket memos which sound like they were written for a first grader! Most of the time the person who screwed up doesn't even know that THEY are the one the memo is addressing! AAAAAAARRRRGGGGGGG!!!!!
Feb 12, '07Occupation: Registered Nurse Specialty: Oncology, Orthopaedics, Med/Surg ; Joined: Feb '07; Posts: 38; Likes: 1I currently work in a magnet hospital, and unfortunately, the grass isn't greener.... trust me.
Feb 12, '07Joined: Jan '05; Posts: 127; Likes: 17I work in a magnet hospital. Either we all work in the same place or our managers were trained by the same people! My manager only micromanages when SHE believes you've done something wrong (God forbid you ask for advice) and not only will tell you about it but tells everyone else whether your present or not.
You can work your buns off, get rave reviews from patients and MDs but according to her, you are only doing your job.If you want a raise you have to serve on hospital committees, volunteer for the hospital, conduct inservices and develop a unit quality improvement project. All of this is on your time.
Staffing is cut daily and we are obligated to take PTO or no pay for call offs. The new hospital motto is "do more with less". They aren't kidding.
Her latest method of improving staff morale is to develop a policy for the unit regarding tardiness and attendance. If you are one minute late, you are late and subject to a written warning.
I hear it's no better on the other units. Everyone I've talked to is wondering how we can get the union in.
There are some great reasons to stay...for now. Wonderful, compassionate physicians and I love working with patients. BUT, I have to admit, I'm having a bit of a problem showing gratitude to this (evil) woman for my job on a daily basis.
White Castle is looking pretty good for my next job!