Geez...they're dropping like flies!

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i'm a first semester student in a tough private school; i guess it's too tough! a lot of students are starting to drop out like crazy! i'm not excelling but i am passing and besides the busy work i'm not feeling uncomfortable. guess i should consider myself lucky~!

any other first semesters out there see in this in their programs?

That's pretty common in nursing school unfortunately. My class started with 170 students of which 47 failed in the first semester and we are now down to 35% of the original students and we still have a year left till graduation....

Tomorrow is day one of my second quarter.. I'll let you know how many show up.

At MGCCC Jeff Davis Campus we are dropping like flies. We had about 6 Level 2 repeats and they are having a harder time this go round then last semester. This new curriculum is really hurting us. Our objectives aren't specific on what we need to know and we have different instructors come in from other campuses to teach lecture.

When I started nursing school.....we were told on our first day "Look around the room....half of you won't be here when its time to graduate." :no:And that instructor was not kidding. If people didn't straight drop out they failed a class and had to repeat and graduate the next year or changed majors because nursing was not for them. I think around 70 were in my graduation year and I walked the stage with less than 20 of them :icon_roll

We started out with 41 and lost 8 in the first semester. Some students barely passed. One girl that studies with us passed by a .02. She got very lucky. We are now in our second semester. Some are doing well and some are not.

Out of a class of 6, it looks like we lost 2 but acquired 3 different students from the class ahead of mine; 2 of those 3 failed clinical skills one so they have to re take it with us. Dunno about the third (new) guy, other than he mentioned attending a different nursing specific school prior to showing up at mine. That class has/had more students than ours (they started with 14 or 15) but I don't know yet how many are going to show up tomorrow on their first day back. I do know that two of them were having some major issues and a different one is due in late August or early September.. she got preggo right after starting classes last year, apparently.

This Friday a new group starts nursing, but no idea how many bodies will be in there yet. 15 is the school class size limit though. Be interesting to see how many survive.. :-\

It sounds like many of you came from schools with really low standards to acceptance if you have drop rates like that. Either that, or your schools do little to support your transition into nursing school. At my school we started with 130 students and ended with around 110.

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national stats show that about 1/3 of a nursing class will drop out before graduation. Nursing school is harder than most people realize. If they are emotionally immature to boot, and think that it will be like high school where all you do is minimal effort and show up, then they are very disappointed.

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It sounds like many of you came from schools with really low standards to acceptance if you have drop rates like that. Either that, or your schools do little to support your transition into nursing school. At my school we started with 130 students and ended with around 110.

Wow, that was pretty mean and harsh. You had a very successful class and nothing more. We have honors students dropping out; low standards have nothing to do with it. My school has very HIGH standards actually.

annachu512,

i have a question for you. i have a question. i am an lpn that was accepted to mount aloysius for the rn program. i have my lpn license currently so have the option of going through the lpn to rn bridge program. my concern is; i have been out of school for a few years. one of the upsides to getting in the bridge program is the ability to automatically receive credits for adult nursing i without having to take the class. that sounds great however, i do not want to set myself behind clinically. i work in ltc right now so i haven't used alot of the skills i learned in lpn school. what i am wondering is how indepth is the adult i nursing program and the clinical with it. i am curious to know what skills are covered so i know whether i would miss skills i need to brush up on if i were to go the lpn to rn bridge or if i should just go through the longer adn program. any advice that you could give me would be greatly appreciated. i am really afraid that i will make the wrong decision. thanks.

that's pretty common in nursing school unfortunately. my class started with 170 students of which 47 failed in the first semester and we are now down to 35% of the original students and we still have a year left till graduation....

you know what? i keep reading / hearing numbers like that, here and in real life. i wonder if some of this isn't very deliberate on the part of the schools, simply because the schools are flooded with students but the job market has diminished so much. it sounds good to not only say that "we have a 100% nclex pass rate, but also 100% of our grads had jobs as of graduation or within six months after." that sounds much better than "have a 100% pass rate, but only 25% of the class got jobs." regardless of how many students start the schools get paid for all of the starts, and for all of the repeats, and that no doubt goes a long way toward funding that school or making a profit for it. perhaps the schools only intend to produce a small graduating class.

i think it's unfair and unethical to admit such large classes when you never intend to nurture and teach and adequately train them. i don't buy most of the "just not meant to be nurses" rhetoric. not treated right in school, is what i and others experienced. schooling should not be emotional drama all the time. but keeping students stirred up and uncomfortable so they'll leave = voluntary attrition, which the school can then pass off as "oh, all those students just changed their minds, so they quit." hmmmn, methinks ya just bullied and tormented more than a few of them out. i saw ya do it. i'm not a kid. i'm a middle-aged adult who's already had a successful career with a major corporation.

the rn schools also start the critical thinking stuff far too prematurely. they should, imo, thoroughly teach the essential knowledge and skills first, before they start asking us to make decisions with it. other curricula like engineering require critical thinking (nursing doesn't hold the patent on it, lol), but they usually don't require much critical thinking during semesters i and ii. ;-d

nursing has such a weird nonsensical and irrational and inefficient and sometimes sadistic method of teaching. but always, they blame the students for lack of success in their programs. as somebody else on this this board said a while back, in any other degree or training program, such a high failure rate as nursing schools have would be considered a significant failure of the school. it would have to be accounted for, the root causes would be identified, the school would be put on an improvement plan, remediation would be done, and corrective measures would be made to prevent having so many fail-outs the next time.

So many programs now like Engineering, Teaching, and so on require 5-years of college. My daughter's in her junior year in a BSN program and it's tough. It would be less stressful if the program were 5-years. Same with community colleges, it really should be three years once in the RN program.

But..it remains 4 and 2 respectively and dropouts at enormous rates will continue.

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