I graduated in 2010 in PI. Took the NCLEX California Exams in 2011, failed. Then I reapplied in 2012 and got denied. Now they were asking me to take OB and Med-Surg course so I can re-apply for the exams.
To my fellow Pinoy nurses, what would be the best thing to do to fulfill my dream to become a US Nurse? Which state would still allow foreign grads to take NLCEX exams without retaking some course?
How much will the tuition fee be for OB and MedSurg courses in California?
I have been working so hard to raise my family and I realized that I can not just give up my dream to become an RN. I badly need some help. Thank you!
A law enforcement (CHP) friend of ours loves the new law....why? He says now if one is stopped, they no longer will give out a fake name and they don't run! The new driver knows if they don't pay their tickets, it will catch up with them and can also suspend their driver's license.
Sound like our friend is an idiot, I just read the law to allow illegals to get DL in your state, it says it fine if they submitted fake documents or fake Social Security Numbers in the past. Interesting someone in law enforcement would support Illegal Aliens coming into USA
I believe Cali BON does internal credential Evalution on International Students.
Larger states like Texas or States with larger population like New York use 3rd party to verify documents.
It would seem like the State of California actually encourages cheating and really doesn't do much about it, whether it be on nurses or illegal Immigrants.
This may be the reason jobs are bleak in California and this maybe a reason so many countries and people are leaving California, Sadly we are getting a lot of them here in Texas and especially in the North Texas area including cities like Plano, Dallas, etc......
I believe Cali BON does internal credential Evalution on International Students.
Larger states like Texas or States with larger population like New York use 3rd party to verify documents.
It would seem like the State of California actually encourages cheating and really doesn't do much about it, whether it be on nurses or illegal Immigrants.
This may be the reason jobs are bleak in California and this maybe a reason so many countries and people are leaving California, Sadly we are getting a lot of them here in Texas and especially in the North Texas area including cities like Plano, Dallas, etc......
If you re-read my previous comments, that's why many of the cheating and greedy PH nurses are going to states such as TX (even to NV), both are closer to CA. The fraudsters can't not get thru the CA BRN any more since Nov. 2011 (when the strict enforcement of the concurrency rules went in actual effect).
Since CA does its own reviews of all applicants, locals, domestics and internationals alike, even in some cases of the outside evaluations, they will always ask for further documentations (cases paperwork with the clinicals signed copies, copies of all pages of their passports etc) and if they can't, the application gets denied but they have up to 3 years to complete their application.
The various well-known evaluation companies do not screen nor look for or just simply not aware of a state's concurrency rules and regulations if they have them at all.
The CA BRN has been actually admitted to very few PH applicants since the Nov. 2011 date and those knowingly presenting falsified paperwork can simply sent them to the evaluation agencies and the TX BON takes those at face value. If the applicant presents the fake documents, there's no penalty to do so in TX, so far.
There's really no encouragement at all by the CA BRN for the illegal gain of getting licensed, it's more the other way around and simply stamp the majority of the PH application with a quick reject (after they have been quickly reviewed and know there's always the lack of more support documentation that will be asked after the initial cursory look-thru.
This is why TX (and other easy to get into states) are getting bombarded with PH applicants, the several thousands of annual PH applicants have moved their target to the fastest and much less restrictive state.
CA BRN also requires as of a couple years ago, a copy of the PH nursing license, which is also used a verification check, whereas some states such as TX does not need it nor needed to verify if one was licensed in the PH (much harder to fake the nursing license numbers if that and the names do not match, but there could some glitches there too, probably but difficult).
So in essence, the CA BRN has really cleaned up the house over the past few years.
Sound like our friend is an idiot, I just read the law to allow illegals to get DL in your state, it says it fine if they submitted fake documents or fake Social Security Numbers in the past. Interesting someone in law enforcement would support Illegal Aliens coming into USA
Nope, wrong again!
They are NOT like the IRS, they don't need to concern them (illegals) like the INS (who are). The various agencies have their different agendas.
Who said someone in law enforcement (of the roads) would support the illegals? They (CHP, in this example) is only concerned the person (illegal) has passed the same written knowledge tests and passed the behind-the-wheel driving test.
They (illegals) still need to prove who they are and the illegals you're probably referring to are most likely coming from the border directly connected with the US.
But they have to be ID via electronic verification by their country of origin, which means their documents have to be cleared.
If they DON'T clear, they can still apply but will NOT be issued documents, either their application and their supporting documents clear the CA DMV Investigation Unit, which means they will get a letter from that department and asked to come in for further review and interviewed with an investigator (aka Secondary Review process): DMV Accepts Additional Documents from AB 60 Applicants
Then and only then, will they receive their licenses. There have been many who can not and are denied the license until they can prove who they are or simply keep on driving at the risk of getting ticketed AND getting the car they are driving in impounded (average cost is $600-1,000).
If they don't pay the cost, it will go to collections and the state can go after their paychecks (garnishment), levy their bank accounts, get any tax refunds to be applied towards the collection costs. Nothing is free.
Don't confuse that traffic law officers are in support for the illegals coming in but if they do, they are glad that if they are stopped, they know who they are dealing with in terms of the proper name and where they can be found.
Here's some information on what's required of the applicants from CA DMV site:
CA BRN also requires as of a couple years ago, a copy of the PH nursing license, which is also used a verification check, whereas some states such as TX does not need it nor needed to verify if one was licensed in the PH (much harder to fake the nursing license numbers if that and the names do not match, but there could some glitches there too, probably but difficult).
So in essence, the CA BRN has really cleaned up the house over the past few years.
Negative
Texas has required Verification of License for many years
They are NOT like the IRS, they don't need to concern them (illegals) like the INS (who are). The various agencies have their different agendas.
Negative:
If I applied for a driver's license in California using a fake name or social security number in the past, will I be at risk if I apply for an AB 60 license?
The concern for anyone who used fake information in a prior driver's license application to the DMV is
that the DMV could refer the person to criminal prosecution for fraud. BUT the DMV's current policy
is not to refer anyone to criminal prosecution who previously applied for a license using false
information so long as the false information did not cause any harm. If the DMV believes that the
false information caused any kind of harm, including bodily harm, financial harm, harm to property,
identity theft, or avoiding child support payments, the DMV may refer that person to criminal
prosecution.
Under the DMV's policy, someone who has used a made-up social security number solely to apply for
a driver's license in the past should be okay. Many people in this situation have successfully gotten
driver's licenses under AB 60. But please note that the DMV's policy on this issue is not in writing,
and all people who have used fake information in the past must be warned that there is no guarantee
as to how the DMV will handle these cases.
If I applied for a driver's license in California using someone else's social security
number, will I be at risk if I apply for an AB 60 license?
The DMV's current practice is not to refer people who have used false information to obtain a driver's
license for criminal prosecution unless that false information caused harm to others. But it's
important to remember that there are no guarantees, and that we're still learning what the DMV
considers as harm.â€
People who used fake information belonging to someone else to apply for a driver's license in the
past may be at higher risk than people who have used made-up fake information. This is because if
someone used information belonging to someone else (versus information that is made up), there's
more of a chance that the DMV could think that the person was using the false information to harm
others (such as for identity theft), especially if the person used the driver's license to open a bank
account or for other activities that could be seen as for financial gain. If a person used someone
else's information to apply for a driver's license in the past, the person should be prepared to answer
questions about what fake information she used, why, and what she then did with the driver's licenese
California and Texas tend to have opposite view on Illegal Aliens. California tends to be pro Illegal alien and welcome them into the USA, and in turn the state agency are pro Illegal Alien. And with that pro illegal aliens stance they will always have people trying to cheat the system, they have already told them it ok to break the laws here, and it ok to file fake documents. Headlines a few weeks ago the city of San Francisco about an illegal who killed a woman in part because San Fran is a Sanctuary city and will not cooperate with immigration: Illegal Immigrant Kills Woman in San Francisco; Chose City for 'Sanctuary' Policies - Christine Rousselle
I also read they are issuing professional license to illegal immigrants in California, and also Driver Licenses and if you know places like the Mexican Consualte they are known for disregarding US laws and issuing ID card with fake document.
With all said and done with regards to the AB60 and the CA driver's licenses, the DMV has already calculated there's at least 1.4 million drivers that fit within the AB60 guidelines, so all those illegals are already here inside the state and was not promoting more.
"DMV anticipates processing approximately 1.4 million additional driver license applications during the first three years after implementation of AB 60." Again, CA is just the 12th US state to issue license to undocumented people (I said in tenth place before but I take that back).
AUSTIN — The illegal immigration debate has reached a higher level in the Texas Legislature — thanks to an influential House Republican who filed a bill that would allow some undocumented immigrants to get one-year driving permits.
Rep. Byron Cook, chairman of the powerful House State Affairs Committee and a top lieutenant of Speaker Joe Straus, filed House Bill 4063 just before Friday's filing deadline for this year's session.
Though Cook, R-Corsicana, didn't return a call for comment, his bill was expected because in the 2013 session he successfully pushed for a similar proposal in the 13-member panel he chairs. The Legislature seriously considered the legislation Dallas Democratic Rep. Roberto Alonzo filed that year, but the clock ran out in the 140-day session.
HB 4063 is likely to get serious consideration in the Republican-dominated Legislature but could put the lower chamber on a collision course with the more conservative Texas Senate.
Alonzo has been authoring a similar bill for more than a decade but it was only in the 2013 session when it nearly passed. He acknowledged Cook's proposal stands a better chance of passing because Cook is an influential Republican.
But it doesn't matter who authors the driving permit legislation as long as it passes or triggers a healthy debate on the issue, Alonzo said
.
Undocumented individuals should have an opportunity to drive safely, and if Chairman Cook is presenting a bill to us and it's a good bill, I am all for it and do something good for the state of Texas,†Alonzo said.
As in the bill Alonzo filed this session, in Cook's proposal the applicants would have to prove they have lived in Texas for at least a year and have no criminal record.
Cook's bill is also expected to get strong support from powerful groups that usually support Republican officeholders and candidates, as well as conservative legislation.
One of them is the Texas Association of Business.
We want everybody who is driving on the roads of Texas to have a driver's license, or in this case a driver's permit, if for no other reason so that they can obtain insurance,†said CEO Bill Hammond.
Those who are not allowed to get a driver's permit, by that fact, cannot buy automobile insurance, and that increases the percentage of drivers on the road who do not have insurance,†Hammond said.
This would also increase the possibility those with driving permits would not flee the scene of an accident if they are involved in it, Hammond said.
Nonetheless, Republican opposition is expected to be strong, especially in the Senate where Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, the presiding officer of the chamber, has made illegal immigration and border security top legislative priorities.
In addition, several Republican senators, including Charles Perry of Lubbock, have filed legislation targeting undocumented immigrants.
Perry, for example, authored Senate Bill 185, the so-called sanctuary cities†legislation that, according to Perry's office, would order cities and other jurisdictions not to prohibit law enforcement officers from enforcing federal immigration laws.
Critics of the sanctuary cities bill — who are expected in large numbers at a Monday morning public hearing of the Senate Subcommittee on Border Security — characterize Perry's proposal as racial profiling of Hispanics.
They oppose it on grounds it would give law enforcement officers the authority to ask for proof of U.S. citizenship to anyone they stop, even for a minor traffic violation, just like a 2010 Arizona law does,
In the Texas House, a good number of Republicans, including John Frullo of Lubbock and John Smithee of Amarillo, said they would vote against Cook's bill.
I can't think of any other example where we would reward someone with a state permit solely because they broke the law,†Smithee said. The only people who would be eligible for this permit would be people who are in this country illegally, and so I don't think that's a good precedent to set.â€
I was against it then and I am against it now,†Frullo said in reference to Alonzo's proposal that received serious consideration in the 2013 session. I just don't think it's something we should do.â€
Frullo and Smithee are familiar with the pros and cons of the latest measure because they sit on the House State Affairs Committee, the panel that screened Alonzo's bill in the 2013 session.
Texas is the latest state to consider a law that would allow some undocumented immigrants to drive and get automobile insurance.
Ten other states — with California being the latest — and the District of Columbia already issue driving permits or driver's licenses to residents who entered the country illegally but have not obtained U.S. citizenship or legal residency, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.
In 2013, Oregon began issuing driver's licenses to unauthorized immigrants, too, but last year state voters overwhelming approved a ballot measure that suspended such law.
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Sound like our friend is an idiot, I just read the law to allow illegals to get DL in your state, it says it fine if they submitted fake documents or fake Social Security Numbers in the past. Interesting someone in law enforcement would support Illegal Aliens coming into USA