First Impressions Matter, B**ch!!!!

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:( Yanno, I always try to make a good first impression with patients and their families. It freakin' matters. It sets the whole tone, and it really makes a difference in what kind of rapport you can develop with your patients.

I had a special consult today in my recent quest re: possible ttc. The office nurse, the ONLY nurse btw, was a total rude, snotty little twit. This was a visit regarding which antidepressants I can and can't take during pregnancy. It was a one time consult, damn it. It had nothing to do with my physical health, no meds were going to be prescribed, NOTHING. MERELY A CONSULT OF THIS PARTICULAR DOC'S MEDICAL OPINION. NOTHING ELSE.

Office b**ch tells me as a part of her duties, each pt. gets BP/P/R and WEIGHT.......................................................

Folks, my DOG doesn't even know my weight, okay? I don't weigh for ANYBODY. I DON'T CARE WHO YOU ARE. UNLESS MY MEDICATION IS WEIGHT BASED, YOU WILL NOT KNOW MY WEIGHT. PERIOD. END OF STORY. So I politely tell her I will decline weighing, and she looks at me, up and down, pursed lips, and says, "well, we do have women who just don't look, you know."

I wanted to smack her. I am immediately on the defensive. I have weight issues, okay, and I don't effing need her crap about "there are women who don't look." I wanted to say, "I'm sorry, B**CH, WHAT PART OF NO DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND????!!??" I told her NO again, and she proceeded with my vs. I was sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo put off by her. I was just clawing at my purse, thinking a million different ugly things about her. When searching through my purse for my insurance card, I MADE SURE TO WHIP OUT MY NURSING LICENSE WHILE "SHUFFLING" THROUGH MY THINGS IN MY WALLET in hopes she'd see and know that she was not only being a snot to a patient she didn't know from ADAM, but to a FELLOW NURSE.

:( :( REFUSAL OF TREATMENT INCLUDES BEING ABLE TO REFUSE CERTAIN PROCEDURES, AND BEING WEIGHED IS ONE OF THEM. WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR ALL THE OFFICE NURSES OUT THERE TO UNDERSTAND THIS????? I RESPECT MY PATIENTS' BOUNDARIES, WHY DO THESE PEOPLE GET SO PISSY WHEN I REFUSE TO WEIGH??? IT IS NONE OF YOUR FREAKIN' BUSINESS WHY OR WHY NOT I WEIGH, I SAID NO, NOW BACK THE F OFF.

Look, people. All you students and new nurses especially........PLEASE REMEMBER..........your patient can refuse whatever he/she wishes unless their is a COURT ORDER stating they are incompetent, and there is someone acting in their stead, OKAY??? Do not get all rude and snotty if someone refuses treatment. I had a patient yesterday that signed out AMA for familial reasons. Was I rude to her? NO. Did I disagree with her decision? YES. Did I reflect that in my treatment of her? NO. I told her, respectfully and politely, the risks of leaving, and encouraged her to return to the hospital if she has any further problems. Part of nursing is learning how to CONTROL YOUR OUTWARD APPEARANCE. You can be frustrated or put off. You can not like what someone is doing. But damn it, they teach you in nursing school (at least they taught MY class) how to friggin' watch your body language and facial expressions so as not to MAKE YOUR PATIENT FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE.

Please be aware of how you're coming off. It MATTERS. It MAKES A DIFFERENCE. BODY LANGUAGE, FACIAL EXPRESSIONS, AND TONE OF VOICE SAY A LOT MORE THAN THE WORDS COMING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH. Please, people. Remember this.

Oh Shay, I feel for you. We all have those little things that other people just don't understand. And you're perfectly right to refuse any treatment/proceedure for any reason.

Your post brought up somthing that has frequently been a topic in our unit - especially at Academy Awards time: Nurses have to be great actors/actresses.

...they teach you in nursing school (at least they taught MY class) how to friggin' watch your body language and facial expressions so as not to MAKE YOUR PATIENT FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE.

Please be aware of how you're coming off. It MATTERS. It MAKES A DIFFERENCE. BODY LANGUAGE, FACIAL EXPRESSIONS, AND TONE OF VOICE SAY A LOT MORE THAN THE WORDS COMING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH. Please, people. Remember this.

Sometimes the acting is more exhausting than the patient care. Every family member must be made to feel that his/her little darlin' is the MOST darlin' of all... No, of course I don't mind...Is there anything else I can do for you, I have the time...

One more reason we should get paid more - something a little closer to what actors get.

That office nurse, however, should get kicked out of NAG (Nurses' Acting Guild).

Shay-

You are my HERO for today !!! I've always wanted to refuse. Have big issues with it, too but never bucked their system.I always try to fill out the info myself and put 120.(more like 220).

I also just put omitted at pt's request or something if someone doesn't want something done.It's not a big deal and while we're on the subject just exactly how many meds are so precisely dependent on weight on an adult level????

In ER we never take time out during an emergency to hoist them on the sling scale for that EXACT weight.

I went to a psychiatrist for 6 years and never saw a nurse just receptionist. The doc never knew or cared how much I weighed and he gave me meds. He was fairly intelligent- gave me the eyeball and came up with a usable ballpark figure that was all he needed and my issue wasn't an issue until I wanted to talk about it and then he was so suprised I thought my weight was an issue.

that I felt okay about it then.

This is not Nazi America and nurses aren't enforcers. so there.....

*Mihi makes mental note to NEVER object to a patient refusing the weigh in.*

Wow - sorry that she rattled your cage Shay! But, you've taught a soon-to-be-nurse a lesson, so something good has come from it!

Michelle

unlike Vegas, I wouldnt hold your purse. Id put a longer strap on it so that you could more easily use it as a weapon to wack her with.

brandy

Exactly, Nell. It DOES get exhausting, but it's part of the job, folks. Like Susy said, perfectly as always ;),

a nurse has no business passing *active* judgement on that patient
Exactly. I don't like what a LOT of my patients do. They smoke, drink, use drugs, have unprotected sex with multiple partners while they're PREGNANT. They don't get prenatal care. But ya know what? It's not my position to show them my disdain for them and their lifestyle. Not at all. I ask them how many cigarettes they smoke a day, document it on the chart, and that's it. I had a patient who was veeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrry high risk for HIV who was pregnant refuse an HIV test. I said okay and left it at that.

I can have anything going on in my little head that I want to about this person, but it SHOULD NOT SHOW ON MY FACE OR IN MY BODY LANGUAGE OR COME OUT IN MY TONE OF VOICE. PERIOD. EVER. It is rude, it is unprofessional, and it's uncalled for. I can yell about it in my car. I can tell my dh what an idiot I think they are. I can come here and tell y'all what I think.......but when it comes to actual pt./family interaction, I suck it up and put on my game face. It's part of the job.

Refusal is a right. So many people forget that. I have patients who apologetically refuse things, and I correct them and tell them no need to apologize......it is your right to refuse anything....that is in the patient's bill of rights. Why is this such a difficult concept for some to grasp???????

Brandy you slay me. :)

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.

I remember, when I was pg w/child number one, not only did we have to weigh in front of a million people, but they used to shout the weight across the room to a nurse taking the numbers down. Then they would yell: "is your bladder full? if so, please go pee in that cup for us?!

Like we were F----ing monkeys or something! I UNDERSTAND frequents weights, but to humilate me by shouting my numbers all over for ALL to hear???? UMMM I DON'T F----ING THINK SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am SO w/you on the one, shay, baby!!!!!!!! GROWWWWWWWWWWL! Oh and yes I DID turn this in as AN I.G. complaint (inspector general in the USAF)! UGH the NERVE!

And w/my next child, NO ONE did ANYTHING Like that AGAIN, we were weighed behind a screen and interviewed confidentially in a room w/just a NURSE! THANK YOU VERY MUCH! Shay, you don't have to take crap lying down, and I am glad you didn't!:devil:

OK. So you're ttc. You plan a visit with your shrink to clarify if any meds you may be taking would be safe to continue during this venture, or a future pregnancy. And a set of vs and a weight are necessary why?

I've been to my share of shrinks, and I was never once vitaled or weighed. Crap, I never even saw a nurse, just a receptionist. I just don't see the relevance. Unless you're trying to demonstrate a trend in mental health related to weight?

:confused: Heather

Specializes in Oncology/Haemetology/HIV.

My most hated questions is the "When was your last period"

How the heck do I know?

I'm in at the shrink, or being seen for an ear infection, and I know I'm not pregnant. (Can't have a disease without being exposed......). Sorry, I don't write my period down. Why is it always the first question out of the MD's mouth?

Specializes in LDRP; Education.

Shay, was this at your shrink's office or an OB or PCP or what???

Susy:

Originally posted by shay

And ftr, it was a PSYCHIATRIT'S OFFICE I was in...............................I HAVE NEVER IN MY LIFE BEEN ASKED TO WEIGH AT A PSYCHIATRIST'S OFFICE.

:D Heather

Specializes in LDRP; Education.

Well asking LMP is pertinent, I think. I know, I am a 'tard when it comes to that. I say something like "2 weeks ago"

It's all part of the assessment. If a doc DIDN'T ask my LMP I'd be concerned about how thorough he/she is.

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