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Bad day here. I am/was about to begin my orientation as a new grad and I couldn't produce any urine for the pee test. I even asked if they could straight cath me rather than just report refusal to void. I am going to talk to HR tomorrow and see what, if any, options I might have, but I was told by the working RN that they would simply say they "don't reccomend me for hire d/t refusal to complete urine test". I've always been really pee shy, but come on bladder, this was my number one choice of place to work and my career!!! Anyone else have an extremely shy bladder? How about to the extent that you lost a job over it???

Mexarican

Specializes in Pediatric Intensive Care, Urgent Care. Has 4 years experience.

should of drank caffeine...lol

Mex

rn-jane

Specializes in ccu cardiovascular. Has 12 years experience.

Lori,

That really can be tough. It has happened to me beleive it or not. Is there a way you can do a repeat, just explain the situation to hr or the doc that did you preemployment exam. I always schedule it for the morning, drink lots of fluid I know goes through me such as diet coke. The job I'm at now I had to dring 6 glasses of water and they refuse to let me leave the testing area. I really hope you can get another test so good luck.

TigerGalLE, BSN, RN

Specializes in ICU, Med/Surg.

Well how much time did they give you? Couldn't you drink a coke and wait a few minutes?

elizabells, BSN, RN

Specializes in NICU.

I'd hope that they documented your request for a straight cath, but I wouldn't bet on it. Maybe you could offer to do a hair test, which goes back further than a spot urine test.

Best of luck.

frankiebaby

Specializes in Perioperative, ACU, Hospice.

Oh no! I used to work in addiction nursing and we would randomly urine test clients 1x month. When they couldn't go we would just park them by the water cooler and have them drink H20 for an hour or so.

They wouldn't at least give you the chance to hang out, drink some fluids and see what developed? I would contact HR and push for a second chance. If they let you try again, keep hydrated, but don't over-hydrate as sometimes super dilute urine can be seen as trying to hide something.

Good luck!:specs:

Oh yes, I hung around. I waited until they made me leave... closing time. My bladder was full though, I just couldn't go in that circumstance. It was definitely mental because I went right after I left the office area.

It was a little bitty toilet, obviously no running water available to encourage the bladder. I could hear everyone talking outside the door perfectly, which hinders me in public restrooms also. I tried everything I could think of, including leaving the toilet to run hot water over my hands. I do appreciate comments from you all though, as I am just kind of in shock right now until I talk to HR tomorrow. We are talking my dream job here. Stooopid bladder/mind!!!

mercyteapot, BSN, RN

Specializes in Dev. Disabilities, Health Disparities. Has 20 years experience.

One time I drank too much water and my urine was so clear that they asked me not to drink anything for a few hours and retested me. I don't understand why they just didn't have you hang around for a bit and try again.

hikernurse

Specializes in NICU. Has 8 years experience.

Any chance of using a different bathroom? The bathroom we had to use for our test had the ricketiest walls I've ever seen, and definitely much less than soundproof. My bladder isn't the least bit shy, but even I had to relax a couple of minutes before I could go.

Although, once at a urologist's office I had to give a sample in a room that had a window directly into the (very busy) lab--and it didn't look like it closed all the way. The receptionist rolled her eyes when I told her I needed to use a different bathroom, but handed me a sterile cup anyway.

I'm sorry about your day. If it's any comfort, my friend had the same experience. They let her come back the next morning, but they told her she had better be ready to produce. Lotsa coffee on the way in and she was begging them to let her pee.

everthesame, LPN, LVN

Has 12 years experience.

I have had that problem once before. I drank 5 glasses of water and waited over an hour before I could "go." I was so relieved when I found out my newest employer's drug test consisted of putting a swab in your mouth until it was saturated. It was so much less stressful than trying to produce urine on cue.

I hope they give you another chance tomorrow. Surely you aren't the only one who has had a problem providing a sample.

Laughs-a-lot, RN

Specializes in Med/Surg/Tele. Has 3 years experience.

The ironic part is, you would be perfect for the job, because you can never seem to actually get to the bathroom while you're working anyway.

Lori, try offering to have a different type of test done at your expense, like hair or blood. Another option would be to go to an urgent care clinic and request a cath urine for a drug screen (at your expense) and take the results in.

CABG patch kid, BSN, RN

Specializes in Telemetry, CCU.

I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I have an extremely shy bladder myself and have found myself in some awkward situations before :( Hopefully they give you another chance. Keep us updated!

Don't feel alone, it happened to me too. As a new grad I was also unable to produce urine for the drug screen. I was so surprised, it had never happened to me before. They did let me drink water and wait and I did eventually squeeze out a few drops. At first the nurse said it might not be enough, but she would send it to the lab anyway. I never heard anything and started work, so it must have been OK. Funny thing was the minute I left the OH office I ran to the bathroom in the hallway and peed like crazy. Now, I fill the tank with caffeine prior to testing and have had no problems since.

Quickbeam, BSN, RN

Specializes in Government.

I used to do drug screens for Federal DOT commercial drivers. We had this problem all the time. Our protocol was to give the driver fluids and wait for as long as it took. I waited 5 hours once until a guy could finally pee. Our bathroom was a single locked room.

I had many people ask me to go ahead and straight cath them. The ruling we got from the Feds was that this was not allowed since it introduced a foreign body into the chain of custody. They said the driver could then claim that the specimen was contaminated by the cath. Like we were rubbing narcotics in all our straight caths!

The worst was post-accident screening. Drivers were not allowed to go into surgery until they gave a urine sample. Many a po'd MD over that but the employers were adamant.

I can't believe they didn't give the OP more time/fluids. That's just stupid.

I used to do drug screens for Federal DOT commercial drivers. We had this problem all the time. Our protocol was to give the driver fluids and wait for as long as it took. I waited 5 hours once until a guy could finally pee. Our bathroom was a single locked room.

I had many people ask me to go ahead and straight cath them. The ruling we got from the Feds was that this was not allowed since it introduced a foreign body into the chain of custody. They said the driver could then claim that the specimen was contaminated by the cath. Like we were rubbing narcotics in all our straight caths!

The worst was post-accident screening. Drivers were not allowed to go into surgery until they gave a urine sample. Many a po'd MD over that but the employers were adamant.

I can't believe they didn't give the OP more time/fluids. That's just stupid.

i am surprised they got away with "no surgery before peeing" what if the driver died?....and the op has, apparently, the psych condition called "shy bladder" all the time in the world is likely not going to work....if the cath came out of pakage, shouldnt have been a problem

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