When I was 24 and barely starting out as a new RN, let alone in home health (terrible place to start out as an new nurse imo due to lack of experienced nurses nearby as on a unit/ dr office) , I ended up receiving a public reprimand as a result of that job. For privacy issues I wont dive in but I will say that I received the least amount of “punishment” possible, and it had nothing to do with stealing drugs or abusing a patient or anything like a felony. Truth is I worked for a crappy company whose mgmt used new nurses then threw them under the bus if it served them.
I was able to go on and work nursing jobs after that with no problem. If you don’t okie already, the BON takes YEARS to resolve your case. So I didn’t receive my “reprimand” until a few years later. When it did come to pass, my employer at the time was notified via nursys updates I believe, addressed the situation with me and I was allowed to continue to work, in the NICU, no problem whatsoever. It’s never affected my employment.
now I’m FOUR years out from the start of this horrific experience, a different person in my late 20’s, nursing experience under my belt - and upon moving to a new state last year, I had obtained a job and then lost it Bc my license hadn’t gone thru yet. Bc of the previous discipline, it took MONTHS to make it to the board meeting and be approved.
fast forward several months later, I literally land the SAME job, license in hand this time!! All to find out, just a few days before my start date, that they put my start date on hold, with possibility of rescinding my offer due to the results of the background check. I met all the conditions of my reprimand. My licenses were put in good standing. My new state license that id use to work here was completely free of any discipline hx since it’s a completely new license.
Not knowing whether this can resolved before Monday, I tried to return the NM phone call when she left a voicemail asking to speak to me, but over the course of two days, several calls, a couple voicemails and an email, she can’t be reached. Same with my local HR, until I finally got an email back with some vague explanation and passing me off to HR headquarters which I had previously called and were rude and passed me off to my local HR.
So do I currently am not starting Monday, don’t know if the offer is withdrawn or if they’ll come to a conclusion and let me start later (which sucks because I am financially drowning and was counting on starting soon) .
I have taken responsibility for my actions and even though I feel that my situation was unfair, I learned what I could from that reprimand. I do NOT think that I should still be “reprimanded” years later, especially when there are people who have done far worse and still manage to start working again!! How is this fair? Is this current employer being ridiculous or is it worth me applying to other hospitals? I’m considering a career change and am so lost.
Makes no sense that I was able to continue working with my previous employer without issue, without it affecting my employment but can’t get hired now.
I would appreciate any insight - thank you so much if you got this far in reading.
Specializes in ED, ICU, MS/MT, PCU, CM, House Sup, Frontline mgr.
6 hours ago, joe007 said:
We already covered that above. In 36 states it is legal and it's also legal under Federal law. I don't have any problem with being on tape. What do I have to hide? Transparency is important and something that is sorely lacking in healthcare leading to corruption. I recently have been thinking they should have body cams like the police do, but nurses should wear them in hospitals. The coverups and glossing over of CMS violations, etc. is astounding.
The laws in place don't say a person has to have something to hide or not. They just say that there has to be permission given.
Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).
30 minutes ago, SummerGarden said:
The laws in place don't say a person has to have something to hide or not. They just say that there has to be permission given.
So I would and have handled this by walking in placing a tape recorder on the table and stating " I am taping this conversation so there will be no confusion about what was said later!" and push the record button.
If they choose to continue the meeting so be it. If they choose to adjourn I say while tape is still running - so this meeting is adjourned with a record.
Sorry... I couldn’t resist. I wish I knew what to tell you, but if your account is accurate I really hate it for you. I get needing to protect the public, but such unfettered power over people’s livelihoods isn’t right.... especially when no power is exerted upon the grossly incompetent. As TriciaJ said perfectly, SBsON have become a law unto themselves, and it can be infuriating
thanks everybody for your replies. ?? I’m definitely exploring other opportunities elsewhere. I know that no matter what happens, I deserve this job, but if they don’t let me keep it, then they don’t deserve me.
If if you were to explore a past post of mine, you’d discover that I actually interviewed for this job at a job fair In FEBRUARY, the unit liked me and wanted to extend me an offer, but somehow it slipped thru HR’s inbox and I never got a call. I was persistent and applied for another opening on the unit, got a call from HR, set up an interview which I thought was weird since I already interviewed - and I literally walked onto the unit and mgmt was like “oh it’s you! Yeah we loved you and wanted to offer you the job!”
Since id already previously interviewed 2 months ago, i just went home and waited for my offer. The following Monday still nothing - emailed the receuiter - said it was coming and shed contact me within 24 hrs. Nothing. Finally around 2 weeks later I get offered the job.
now this. I’ve been toyed with so much - maybe all would be fine and dandy once I were to be on the unit working, but the path to get there has been hell, miscommunication, and disrespectful. If it wasn’t for ME reaching out to different people this whole dang process, I’d never have gotten my actual offer let alone found out what my rights are in submitting “additional info” regarding my situation were. They’d make a decision without even regarding my input. They should tell you these things.
ugh. Anyway, here’s to hoping one job or another works out for me super soon...
I have an interview today with another facility. I’m wondering, should I just explain my situation in the interview? Is there any “good” way to do this?
Specializes in ED, ICU, MS/MT, PCU, CM, House Sup, Frontline mgr.
1 hour ago, tinybbynurse said:
I have an interview today with another facility. I’m wondering, should I just explain my situation in the interview? Is there any “good” way to do this?
Yes. Answer questions honestly and positively. In other words, if you are at fault in any way, be sure to take responsibility when answering questions. However, move on. Talk about what good qualities you have to bring to your new employer.
Yes. Answer questions honestly and positively. In other words, if you are at fault in any way, be sure to take responsibility when answering questions. However, move on. Talk about what good qualities you have to bring to your new employer.
Agree with this. Don't dwell on the negative and bring undue attention to it.
Well the hospital FINALLY informs me of the decision *not* to hire me. Had to wait a few weeks just for them to tell me. Honestly pissed. Have offers from a crazy nursing home 1.5-2 hours away and home health where I’ll also be commuting up to 2 hours away. I really didn’t get a good feeling about either place, and home health is the position I was in when my previous license got dinged all those years ago, so I’m obviously very skeptical.
I have an offer from a non medical establishment, a spa desk associate, I love the staff but obviously my pay will be 1/3 what I’d make as a nurse. I have an interview with a medical records dpt soon too.
feel like I’m stuck between a rock and a hard place. Take a nursing job I feel terrible about that is a few hours commute and give a notice once something better pops up or take a non nursing job til a good RN job pops up? Don’t want to be too picky since I’ve been out of nursing work since I moved, but also have learned over the years to trust your gut about certain places and to put my well being first.
super devastated because I don’t feel this is fair treatment, and I have always had a dream of doing an operation smile mission, and now I don’t know how I will if I can’t get back into the NICU.
Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).
I totally understand why you don't want to give details on this forum. However have you considered filing a formal appeal of that decision. You might be bale to get it removed from your record. Also if you are listed on NURSYS there is a way to get your name off that list as well as the OIG exclusion list. Check to see if you are listed on any of these and follow the steps to get your name removed. This process is likely to be lengthy and expensive but may be necessary to restore your good name and then be able to pursue your goals. I suggest you start by getting a consult with an attorney familiar with professional practice issues. Start by going to this organization to find an attorney in your area.
SummerGarden, BSN, MSN, RN
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The laws in place don't say a person has to have something to hide or not. They just say that there has to be permission given.