Feeling Reprimanded Unfairly

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Specializes in ED, ICU, MS/MT, PCU, CM, House Sup, Frontline mgr.
6 hours ago, joe007 said:

We already covered that above. In 36 states it is legal and it's also legal under Federal law. I don't have any problem with being on tape. What do I have to hide? Transparency is important and something that is sorely lacking in healthcare leading to corruption. I recently have been thinking they should have body cams like the police do, but nurses should wear them in hospitals. The coverups and glossing over of CMS violations, etc. is astounding.

The laws in place don't say a person has to have something to hide or not. They just say that there has to be permission given.

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hppygr8ful, ASN, RN, EMT-I

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30 minutes ago, SummerGarden said:

The laws in place don't say a person has to have something to hide or not. They just say that there has to be permission given.

So I would and have handled this by walking in placing a tape recorder on the table and stating " I am taping this conversation so there will be no confusion about what was said later!" and push the record button.

If they choose to continue the meeting so be it. If they choose to adjourn I say while tape is still running - so this meeting is adjourned with a record.

Then I leave

Hppy

Specializes in SICU, trauma, neuro.

Maybe you should consider moving to Tennessee. ?

Sorry... I couldn’t resist. I wish I knew what to tell you, but if your account is accurate I really hate it for you. I get needing to protect the public, but such unfettered power over people’s livelihoods isn’t right.... especially when no power is exerted upon the grossly incompetent. As TriciaJ said perfectly, SBsON have become a law unto themselves, and it can be infuriating

joe007

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6 hours ago, SummerGarden said:

The laws in place don't say a person has to have something to hide or not. They just say that there has to be permission given.

If you are a party in the conversation in 36 states you have the right to record the conversation without other people's permission. Boom!

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Nurse SMS, MSN, RN

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Most states only require ONE person's consent to the recording - which would be the person doing the recording.

tinybbynurse

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thanks everybody for your replies. ?? I’m definitely exploring other opportunities elsewhere. I know that no matter what happens, I deserve this job, but if they don’t let me keep it, then they don’t deserve me.

If if you were to explore a past post of mine, you’d discover that I actually interviewed for this job at a job fair In FEBRUARY, the unit liked me and wanted to extend me an offer, but somehow it slipped thru HR’s inbox and I never got a call. I was persistent and applied for another opening on the unit, got a call from HR, set up an interview which I thought was weird since I already interviewed - and I literally walked onto the unit and mgmt was like “oh it’s you! Yeah we loved you and wanted to offer you the job!”

Since id already previously interviewed 2 months ago, i just went home and waited for my offer. The following Monday still nothing - emailed the receuiter - said it was coming and shed contact me within 24 hrs. Nothing. Finally around 2 weeks later I get offered the job.

now this. I’ve been toyed with so much - maybe all would be fine and dandy once I were to be on the unit working, but the path to get there has been hell, miscommunication, and disrespectful. If it wasn’t for ME reaching out to different people this whole dang process, I’d never have gotten my actual offer let alone found out what my rights are in submitting “additional info” regarding my situation were. They’d make a decision without even regarding my input. They should tell you these things.

ugh. Anyway, here’s to hoping one job or another works out for me super soon...

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On ‎5‎/‎8‎/‎2019 at 2:56 AM, joe007 said:

If you are a party in the conversation in 36 states you have the right to record the conversation without other people's permission. Boom!

Not my state. I am not interested in living in any other state.

tinybbynurse

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I have an interview today with another facility. I’m wondering, should I just explain my situation in the interview? Is there any “good” way to do this?

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1 hour ago, tinybbynurse said:

I have an interview today with another facility. I’m wondering, should I just explain my situation in the interview? Is there any “good” way to do this?

Yes. Answer questions honestly and positively. In other words, if you are at fault in any way, be sure to take responsibility when answering questions. However, move on. Talk about what good qualities you have to bring to your new employer.

caliotter3

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3 minutes ago, SummerGarden said:

Yes. Answer questions honestly and positively. In other words, if you are at fault in any way, be sure to take responsibility when answering questions. However, move on. Talk about what good qualities you have to bring to your new employer.

Agree with this. Don't dwell on the negative and bring undue attention to it.

tinybbynurse

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Well the hospital FINALLY informs me of the decision *not* to hire me. Had to wait a few weeks just for them to tell me. Honestly pissed. Have offers from a crazy nursing home 1.5-2 hours away and home health where I’ll also be commuting up to 2 hours away. I really didn’t get a good feeling about either place, and home health is the position I was in when my previous license got dinged all those years ago, so I’m obviously very skeptical.

I have an offer from a non medical establishment, a spa desk associate, I love the staff but obviously my pay will be 1/3 what I’d make as a nurse. I have an interview with a medical records dpt soon too.

feel like I’m stuck between a rock and a hard place. Take a nursing job I feel terrible about that is a few hours commute and give a notice once something better pops up or take a non nursing job til a good RN job pops up? Don’t want to be too picky since I’ve been out of nursing work since I moved, but also have learned over the years to trust your gut about certain places and to put my well being first.

super devastated because I don’t feel this is fair treatment, and I have always had a dream of doing an operation smile mission, and now I don’t know how I will if I can’t get back into the NICU.

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hppygr8ful, ASN, RN, EMT-I

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I totally understand why you don't want to give details on this forum. However have you considered filing a formal appeal of that decision. You might be bale to get it removed from your record. Also if you are listed on NURSYS there is a way to get your name off that list as well as the OIG exclusion list. Check to see if you are listed on any of these and follow the steps to get your name removed. This process is likely to be lengthy and expensive but may be necessary to restore your good name and then be able to pursue your goals. I suggest you start by getting a consult with an attorney familiar with professional practice issues. Start by going to this organization to find an attorney in your area.

https://www.taana.org/

Good luck to you

Hppy

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