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I am looking for an online RN-BSN but it seems as though all the schools I looked at either had less requirements and were outrageously priced, or there were a million non nursing classes to take. Does anyone have any recommendations? I went to a community college and the only extra credits I took was a humanities class, nutrition and statistics. University of Arlington is cheap but only for the nursing classes. They require you to take 4 history/govt classes and 3 literature classes which are like $300 a credit. Any ideas?

Specializes in Eventually Midwifery.

Allowing people to enter into a Master's level program with only around 60 credit hours of study and not requiring more of a 'bridge' type approach seems like it could make for ill-prepared nurses.

Frankly, I would expect a Master's holding nurse to have just as much, if not more, academic preparation than myself.

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
Allowing people to enter into a Master's level program with only around 60 credit hours of study and not requiring more of a 'bridge' type approach seems like it could make for ill-prepared nurses.

Frankly, I would expect a Master's holding nurse to have just as much, if not more, academic preparation than myself.

Why because you took the long road? We have a number of MSN RNs who do not have BSNs working in various departments of my hospital, educators, managers, staff nurses, case managers etc. They seem to be doing fine.

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And their are many ADN's that do those exact same jobs just as well,lol

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
And their are many ADN's that do those exact same jobs just as well,lol

Naturally. I haven't observed a degree, create a good manager out of a bad one.

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Specializes in Nursing Education, CVICU, Float Pool.
Allowing people to enter into a Master's level program with only around 60 credit hours of study and not requiring more of a 'bridge' type approach seems like it could make for ill-prepared nurses. Frankly I would expect a Master's holding nurse to have just as much, if not more, academic preparation than myself.[/quote']

Also, one must realize that some of the classes you take could overlap as a graduate or undersea due course so there is no need for the school to make you take a class twice (essentially) if yore getting the same information so if a students proves competent in the graduate level coursework, what is the significance of them having separate credit for a similar class at the undergrad level?

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What use is it in making a student take a 3 credit hour undergrad research class and a 3 credit hour graduate research course? If a student can pass the latter, they need not proof their competence anymore, when it comes to curriculum requirements.

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Specializes in PACU.

Well now PMFB-RN and PatMac10,RN are making me rethink starting my RN to BSN and do straight for the RN to MSN. Decisions!

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Well now PMFB-RN and PatMac10RN are making me rethink starting my RN to BSN and do straight for the RN to MSN. Decisions![/quote']

Lol. Don't get me wrong. RN to BSN has it's place. I am in an RN to BSN program. At my job new grad nurses have 3 years from their hiring date to get a BSN or higher.

I was trying to highlight to that particular poster why an RN to MSN program may only require 40 or 50 hours of academic credit. It doesn't mean that the programs are lacking. It means that these RN to MSN programs are designed to eliminate duplication of courses where possible.

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Specializes in Eventually Midwifery.
Why because you took the long road?

I did not take the "long road," I took the ONLY road. To become an expert in Spanish (ie, in either Spanish language literature or linguistics), the ONLY road is to get a BA and then an MA. There is not Associates in Spanish --> Master's in Spanish, at least none I have ever heard of.

And that is exactly my point. As an expert in Spanish Literature I will never hold somebody's life in my hands.

A nursing program that confers a Master's degree, and assumed expertise along with the title, but requires less actual class hours than my BA, seems grossly inadequate. There is something to be said for not cutting corners.

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Oh no PatMac10RN, I didn't think you were saying there was anything wrong with RN to BSN, I had just never thought about all the overlap that a RN to MSN cuts out, especially as someone who wants to get at Master's at some point. Thanks for pointing that out.

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.

A nursing program that confers a Master's degree, and assumed expertise along with the title, but requires less actual class hours than my BA, seems grossly inadequate. There is something to be said for not cutting corners.

You are making inappropiate assumptions about nursing education. From a holding lives in their hands perspective the only nursing education that counts is the basic RN program. After that nursing education has little to do with patient care.

Do you realize that there are a ton of direct entry MSN programs out there? Anyone can walk in off the street with a degree in anything and two years (or less) later be an RN MSN. However they are still brand new grads who know no more about patient care than a new grads from any other program. Less in my exerience.

If you have been assuming MSN behind an RN's name indicates expertise you have been assuming incorrectly.

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Specializes in Eventually Midwifery.

You are right. There are MANY direct entry MSN, so they must be great.

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
You are right. There are MANY direct entry MSN, so they must be great.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree on that point.

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