Family initiated MET/rapid response?

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I'm wondering if any other hospitals have such a policy in place. We very recently started including in our patient admit information binder a paper which explains to the family and patients how to initiate a MET team response, including which number to call if they feel the nursing staff is not taking appropiate action. It does indicate to notify the primary nurse first if certain things are wrong, like increased SOB or mental status changes. That's great, no problem there. It then goes on to say to ask for the charge nurse if they feel the primary nurse isn't getting the job done (although it's phrased differently, that's what it boils down to). Again, perfectly within reason when a loved one's life is involved.

But then it goes on to say that if things still aren't being done to their satisfaction, to call the number for the MET team. Which means that a page goes out over beepers for multiple staff members hospital wide, pulling them away from their duties, automatically...it's a fully automated system and no human is involved in the paging process asided from the one dialing the phone. Um, hello? Multiple nurses and quite possible support staff such as RT have already addressed the issue, explained our interventions (or lack thereof) and supporting rationale, and have likely already consulted with the attending and/or any applicable specialists. I'm just wondering what management was thinking when they gave family members access to that number...seems like at the least there would be a different number to differentiate what were family initiated and what was nurse initiated.

Any thoughts or am I way off base here? I can think of a few family members of frequent flyers who would really be abusing this situation if we were actually pointing it out to them, instead of hiding it amongst more boring paperwork in the middle of the binder. You all know the kind I'm talking about...

The catalyst for this initative is at this site: http://www.josieking.org . We're developing our 'Condition H' process, or whatever we'll call it, with a plan to have it operational by Jan 1st. I think this is a result of arrogance, inexperience and/or lack of insight which contributed to poor outcomes. In my opinion, if it saves even one life despite the potential for some abuse, it's worth it.

Unfortunately, this is response to some dire cases where loved ones have died because noone answered a calllight. This happened to a BIL of a collegue of mine. He had suffered a traumatic leg amputation in a grain hopper and was recovering, he had a decreased LOC, the wife pressed the calllight and no one responded for 20 minutes, and he died. I never heard what the final ruling was as to cause of death, maybe too much morphine via PCA.

Not long ago I had a pt who had almost died because the nurse was ignoring signs of resp failure post CABG, but the family ended up bypassing the nurse and calling the doctor themselves. The patient survived after a number of days on a vent and vasopressor gtts.

Of course there will be abuse of this by some families. The Joint Commission always seems to create lots of problems with their mandates.

I just wish Joint Commission would mandate staffing ratios and use some common sense when it comes to paper work and not mandate 2-3 new forms for the nurse to fill out each year thus keeping said nurse away from the bedside and away from the patient. It seems the forms become more important than the patient they were designed to protect. I think we as nurses, we can definately come up with better ideas to improve patient safety than Joint Commission has. Too bad hospitals aren't accredidited by an organiszation comprised of working bedside nurses.

Am I against families having an option if they feel a patient's condition is deteriorating and they don't feel it's adequately addressed? No, but I don't think they should have the option of calling a rapid response before another venue. You don't want a situation where rapid response is getting calls over crap like someone not fetching ice water fast enough, it's dangerous to the patients. You also want to rectify and prevent situations where family members are trying to get the appropriate attention because they know something is wrong and know it's not being addressed the way it should be. There should be someone they can contact that's qualified to make the decision whether or not a rapid response should be called. Yes, there will probably be some abuse, but that's better than utilizing the rapid response team to deal with abuses that could be made.

Specializes in psych. rehab nursing, float pool.
The catalyst for this initative is at this site: www.josieking.org . We're developing our 'Condition H' process, or whatever we'll call it, with a plan to have it operational by Jan 1st. I think this is a result of arrogance, inexperience and/or lack of insight which contributed to poor outcomes. In my opinion, if it saves even one life despite the potential for some abuse, it's worth it.

While I agree there needs to be recourse if a patient's nurse is not responding to patients or family's needs ,concerns, medical condition.

Why would not the next step be, for patient or family, call the charge nurse, call the supervisor. I agree that something needs to be done.

I just don't see where calling the MET TEAM as a first recourse is the answer. I am simply trying to wrap this around my brain.

Our MET TEAM is fantastic, they have given our staff invaluable guidelines for when to call them.

While I agree there needs to be recourse if a patient's nurse is not responding to patients or family's needs ,concerns, medical condition.

Why would not the next step be, for patient or family, call the charge nurse, call the supervisor. I agree that something needs to be done.

I just don't see where calling the MET TEAM as a first recourse is the answer. I am simply trying to wrap this around my brain.

Our MET TEAM is fantastic, they have given our staff invaluable guidelines for when to call them.

My understanding is that this is intended for potenitally life/limb threatening situations...and the family needs to be educated to such. If that's the case, I would prefer that there be no middle man...no supervisor, no charge nurse, etc. Instead call for the RRT or MET to address the situation. The statistics are overwhelming: I read of one study by Health Grades which documented that between 2004-2006 more than 188, 000 inpatients died in U.S. hospitals and a contributing factor was failure to rescue.

Specializes in CVICU, Burns, Trauma, BMT, Infection control.

It is truly horrible that this is believed to be necessary now for the family to have to rescue the pt. The health care system is truly failing if you need to bring knowledgeable relatives with you to save your life because staff is so busy b/c of high ratios and or high acuity pts that they can't do their job. This just blows my mind.

Of course JCAHO just initiates the needs for Code H instead of mandating adequate staffing plus I'm sure even MORE PAPERWORK that everyone will need to time date and sign every 5 minutes. OMG!!

My understanding is that this is intended for potenitally life/limb threatening situations...and the family needs to be educated to such. If that's the case, I would prefer that there be no middle man...no supervisor, no charge nurse, etc. Instead call for the RRT or MET to address the situation. The statistics are overwhelming: I read of one study by Health Grades which documented that between 2004-2006 more than 188, 000 inpatients died in U.S. hospitals and a contributing factor was failure to rescue.

Of course that would be the intent, for potentially life/limb threatening situations. We live in a society where people will dial 911 because their sub sandwich doesn't have the condiments exactly the way they want it. Same problem with EMS and ambulances, people abusing that system because they don't want to pay for a cab. The thing is we've all been educated as a society that 911 is for emergency situations, we've all been educated that EMS and ambulances are for emergency situations, but that doesn't prevent the abuse of those systems. We can continue to educate people, we can even implements fines for abuse of those emergency resources, but that is only going to have limited effectiveness.

No one is against the family having recourse if they feel a patient is in danger. IMO it would be more appropriate that they had access to someone who can assess the situation appropriately BEFORE initiating RRT or MET, not necessarily a charge nurse or supervisor who are probably dealing with numrous other issues that can distract from the situation. I believe that we all as nurses, at one time or another have dealt with family that have come to us in a panic because they truly believed something serious was wrong, we rush in only to find the situation is not even close to emergent. The purpose of RRT or MET is to prevent failure to rescue, and I think the concerns being expressed is that we don't want RRT or MET tied up with non-emergent situations, while an emergent one needs their attention.

Between 2004-2006 more than 188,000 in-patients died and a contributing factor was failure to rescue, my question is WHY? Why was there a failure to rescue? Was inadequate staffing an issue as it was in the case of Shirley Keck?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4587667/

Was it lack of education on the staff's part? Was it lack of resources like RRT or MET? There's a reason why 188,000 patients died with a contributing factor of failure to rescue.

What does MET stand for?

We instituted this type of Code at our facility about 1 year ago based on Josie King. It is in the admit booklet and the number was on all the phones, but then the number on the phones disappeared without warning or reason.

I heard that the only calls we have gotten have been in appropriate. The one that comes to mind is the patient who needed help with her needlepoint?

It is weird to explain this phone number and code to patients when they are admitted.

Specializes in Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health.

Well, the families will be initiating the rapid response teams to get the patients water, blankets, condiments and the menu to the nearest take out. That will teach 'em...(sometimes, these things-while the intention is good, are so stupid)

Specializes in ER.
Unfortunately, this is response to some dire cases where loved ones have died because noone answered a calllight.

I agree, this sounds like it could really help out families in those extreme cases of lack of care. However, my fear would be that this system will just turn the use of the MET/RRT into something ignored or cheapened by its overuse or misuse. In the instance you gave above, where someone did not answer a call light, this is the result of people who abuse the call light so that we as nurses may think about the patient in the room, "he can wait two more seconds for a Coke." Granted, it could truly be a patient's family member calling for help as their loved one goes into distress, but the number of times the call light is used to ask for an extra pillow far outweighs the number of times I've seen it used for a true emergency. The same result may happen here. Instead of hearing an overhead page for "Rapid Response Team, third floor hallway" and thinking that there is always going to be a credible possible emergency when you arrive, it may end up being a family member who is getting impatient since the surgeon hasn't come up yet to round on the patient. Don't get me wrong, the intention here is great, I just fear that those who tend to abuse the system no matter what precautions are put in place will ultimately reduce the worth that this implication would provide to a hospital system. I hope I'm wrong.

With that said, I have also never waited 5 minutes to respond to a call bell, much less 20.

Specializes in psych. rehab nursing, float pool.

Okay, devils advocate.

Scenario, mom was a fresh post op, returned to her room, nurse came, put her on the data scope. Mom became nauseated. I turned on the call light, no one came in 10 min. Now what I did as most families will do. I went out of mom/s room and found a nurse and brought them back with me.

I see families come to our desk frequently to request things, or to bring to our attention of a change in condition that they see. I have had patients who for one reason or another have said to my face " I want to speak to another nurse" no problem I go get another nurse for them.

Perhaps in smaller hospitals a MET TEAM being called inappropriately would be less of a problem, but in a large hospital and only one MET Team. I can see a potential problem.

Course I will qualify it by......I could be wrong and maybe it will not be misused.

Specializes in Peds Cardiology,Peds Neuro,Pedi ER,PICU, IV Jedi.

Yeah. I found this on the JC website.

http://www.jointcommission.org/NR/rdonlyres/BD4D59E0-6D53-404C-8507-883AF3BBC50A/0/audio_conference_091307.pdf

Scroll down to page 9 for the important stuff as it pertains to this post.

What we really need are parents/families who are responsible to know when truly to call out for help. No one likes to think that they're not being taken seriously, and when it affects your loved one it's all the more stressful.

I think in order for these initiatives to work, a good orientation process must be in place at facilities where families can activate such teams. Families need to be made to believe what should be the truth everywhere:

That our job is to make sure that their family member receives the best care available.

Specializes in Inpatient Rehabilitation.

Our hospital started a new program on Jan 1, 2008 called Code H (HELP). It can be used by patients, their family, or staff members pertaining to the care, or lack there of, of the patient by picking up the phone and dialing H-E-L-P. They are connected directly to the Switchboard where they ask for the Code H team which includes the PCC, Charge Nurse of the unit, the Manager of the unit, and the Nurse taking care of the patient. It is intended to be used in any situation where you feel your concerns about the patient's condition are not being addressed properly. It has been a great program that has prevented many undesireable situations and has given the patients and their family a greater sense of involvement in their loved ones care.

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