Failure rate of nursing schools.

That Guy, BSN, RN, EMT-B · Sep 11, 2009

Failure rate to what? Getting through the program or NCLEX rates? Our school has a high 90's% pass on the Nclex but we loss maybe 2-3 students each semester. Started with 18 down to 16. We pick up a few each semester too

merrywhiterose · Sep 11, 2009

Failure rate for getting through the program AND passing the NCLEX-RN.

smartin13 · Sep 11, 2009

Our program starts out with about 100 students and graduates about 50 the NCLEX pass rate for the last three years has been 98-100% the average for all years is 98%. So if you make it thru you will most likely pass the boards

UVA Grad Nursing · Sep 11, 2009

We enroll approximately 120 new students per year in our BSN or Direct Entry MSN programs. Our failure rate for classes is under 1%.

For the Direct Entry MSN program, we had had only 1 student with poor grades in the past four years (of 110+ who enrolled). The NCLEX passrate is 98% for this period.

Our BSN failure rate us also approximately 1% (some years no one, some years 1 of 100). The NCLEX passrate was 92% last year for the traditional BSN. We enroll students directly from high school into the BSN and do not require TEAS or ATI for any students.

momofsix, SN · Sep 12, 2009

Not to sound depressing or anything....but the class at our college that graduated this last May, the 'original' group (not counting class repeaters or LPN transitions) started with 60 and graduated 15. No, that is not a typo. UGH!!!!!!!

morte, LPN, LVN · Sep 12, 2009

We enroll approximately 120 new students per year in our BSN or Direct Entry MSN programs. Our failure rate for classes is under 1%.
For the Direct Entry MSN program, we had had only 1 student with poor grades in the past four years (of 110+ who enrolled). The NCLEX passrate is 98% for this period.
Our BSN failure rate us also approximately 1% (some years no one, some years 1 of 100). The NCLEX passrate was 92% last year for the traditional BSN. We enroll students directly from high school into the BSN and do not require TEAS or ATI for any students.

now, this sounds like a school that has its hmm "stuff" together....

merrywhiterose · Sep 12, 2009

Is it the school's fault for not teaching what it's supposed to? Somewhere there is a failure in the system. Maybe the schools need to have more prerequisites before getting in so the failure rate is not so high. My school doesn't even require pharmacology or chemistry. Maybe there should be 8-wk courses you can take for the year you are going into., teaching some of the fundamentals of the hardest sections. How about nursing tutors?

merrywhiterose · Sep 12, 2009

Another problem is clinicals. There were 3 clinical instructors for us in the 1st year. Only one taught anything. One instructor told the students to do a quick assessment, then spend the rest of the time doing paperwork. Another instructor just plain disappeared all of the time (alcohol problem?). Now we are in year 2 and 2/3 of the class is totally unprepared! The new instructors have to deal with most of the class not having any experience! No matter how the students evaluate the instructors, the bad ones remain.

wife&mommyRN · Sep 12, 2009

merrywhiterose, i swear u r tapping in2 my brain/ something. i honestly thought my program just lacked in certain areas. i am in my 2nd semester of an accelerated bsn program, we started w/ 65 ppl, down to about 40. this program has adopted the "self-directed" motto, basically i am teaching myself everything and i am paying a private university to do absolutely nothing. this 1st week was back to school and last thursday we were emailed and told we would have 3 math tests this week for med-surg, ob, & peds. they gave us no instruction, just a sample exam with minimal examples. 5 of the questions on the med-surg math practice were wrong, but we don;t know how to do the problems so of course we just continued to figure out how they got the answer. the mathbook we bought from the bookstore is a joke and didn't have anything remotely related to medsurg/ peds in there. btw we r expected to get a 90% meaning we can only miss 1-2 problems/ steps. the instructors gave no assistance (& told us pt. blank they would be answering no questions), we were told that students in the past had no problems passing and we should be fine. well come to fine out, almost everyone that took the ob test failed and they had to rewrite the questions and reset the quiz for those that took it and they would only get 1 more chance to take the test (thank god i didn't take it yet).

don't even get me started on clinicals. majority of these instructors r doing this as a 2nd job, and during clinicals it seems their 1st form of income takes priority. for one of my clinicals my instructor was a unit manager fulltime and would teach us 2 days a week supposedly after her shift we would arrive ontime only to wait 2 hours in the breakroom for her to come & tell us she'd b right back, a half an hour later. then we would go on the floor looking for pts. for about another half an hour. then we would go to lunch for an hour & half. when we got back it was time to go home. & this is how it went for the whole 5 weeks. we never got to pass meds, i can + a whole lot more stuff we didn't do, but i am going to leave it @ that. & truth b told there is nothing we could do about it and we r still expected to know these things w/ our next instructor. best of luck to us all because in reality none of us r safe.

merrywhiterose · Sep 12, 2009

Purple: We have a few instructors that absolutely won't answer questions. I don't know if they just don't know the answers, or just don't want to. The tests are not a test to see what we know, but a test to see if the instructors can fool us. They are NOT similar to the NCLEX. Sometimes the instructors tell us not to worry about a section, and then the test will concentrate on that section! We have a new instructor for this 8 weeks, and he actually teaches! It sounds like his tests will be more of what is expected of us to learn, and not a bunch of trick questions. We'll see this week!

JomoNurse · Sep 12, 2009

I think our class started with 60 students, and 20 of those graduated in the end. FYI: low NCLEX pass rates make a school look "bad". Also, I think they are at risk for losing their credentials if a certain percentage don't pass. Nursing schools INTENTIONALLY flunk out a large percentage students. They try their hardest to get rid of the students that they think will not pass the NCLEX (whether it's due to lack of motivation to stay on top on the students part, distractions in school other than studying, or, sadly, they aren't 'capable' of achiving success). It's harsh, but it's for the school's own livelihood.