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Hey everyone - would appreciate some advice, opinions or thoughts on this...
I recently started a new job in the Cath Lab and Recovery (combo position). My background is in critical care/ ICU, some PACU, pre/post and intraprocedural work in Cath Lab & IR (7 years total nursing experience).
The work itself is fine, however I have gut feeling that I need to leave this place. My boss has asked about and accused me of things that have never happened Ex: that I made a severe med error. Since then, rumors have been spreading. I have even been approached by neighbor department nurses asking about what they had heard: like, that I may have personally mishandled narcs or diverted meds... Not concerned because it is untrue. There's nothing there (clean history and background).. its just weird and make me feel uneasy... I imagine it creates a neg perception of me, which isn't a great place to be in when starting a new job (nor at any time, really).
Week after that, boss is upset and pulls me into her office about attendance issues. I was told on multiple occasions to show up to work by a certain time and later learned that every other nurse shows up at an earlier time, so I was questioned about that by my co workers who appeared quite frustrated. (Note: I have been working there a month and have asked every week to gain access to the online schedule so that I can SEE when I work and have a visual reference.... Still hasn't happened and also my name isn't even listed on the schedule. I've been instructed to do what my preceptor does, which unfortunately changes and sometimes communicated to me in a vague, ambiguous way. When I try to explain to my boss that all I need is access to the schedule with my name included on the days that I work, I am met with frustration/irritation with statements such as "You didn't communicate and touch base with your preceptor and that is all on you. It is SIMPLE: Check in with your preceptor and show up on time..."
Lately, I was told that even though I am supposed to be orienting to both the labs AND to cardiac recovery, I was told that I am going to be stuck in cardiac recovery only for the next 3 months. I pressed for a reason. I am NOT a recovery nurse. I could do a job that involved both intraprocedure nursing with some recovery (which is what was pitched to me before I accepted the position). She said it had to do with being tardy the other day. When I expressed that I was confused b/c attendance and skills/performance are separate in a way. Like, whether or not I am orienting to recovery or in the labs, on time or not on time, what is the difference?
Her answer was "Because I said so."
It was a very rude, condescending and unprofessional discussion. Also, I barely got a word out during this most recent talk. During this "discussion" she went on and on about what she wanted to talk about even though I was the one who requested the meeting to chat and "check in" on how I was moving along in orientation.
None of my questions were answered (nor was I allowed to finish sharing any of the questions I had - as she would change the topic, interupt, etc before I was done trying to ask my questions). None of my thoughts were expressed in full before she interjected and redirected the chat too. She asked me to sign a disciplinary action form, which I refused to do. Nothing in it sounded 100% truthful and captured very little about what this "discussion" was all about and addressing.
It sounds yucky. I have confided with some close healthcare friends and their immediate response is "start sending out applications and get out ASAP."
I have run through scenarios so many times and I cannot get passed the things she says: an observation or detail is completely reframed and is negative. I've made some med error involving narcs or was abusing narcs or something (which is new information to me). I've been told by my boss that my co workers no longer trust me and/or feel that I don't want to work with them. I haven't had any negative interactions. We chat during downtime, help each other out, joke around/have some fun when boss lady isn't around, and when we are done with our shift we all walk out together. So IDK that anyone actually hates me? Maybe they do.
My 3 questions are:
1. Could I have any thoughts , opinions, advice on this situation? if anyone is able to shed some light on this situation and offer tips or share stories/examples of something that looks similar and how they handled that situation it would all be much appreciated.
2. coming from a benefit of the doubt stance, maybe there's a communication issue that's going on. It's not always my strength. I do have bouts of major depression and am being treated for ADHD (meds, counsel, etc for the last few years. Usually there is no issues or anything that interfers with work, EXCEPT in situations like this, where I am viewed negatively / treated differently or belittled or fear that I may lose my job (she has threatened to terminate me a couple of times, now). I notice that ADHD symptoms get worse (and so do any anxiety-depression symptoms). Is there anything I can do about this, or talk to? Is HR a good idea? I honestly feel that if conversations looked differently with my boss that would alleviate a lot of the stress that I am experiencing. I am at the point where the stress = awake until 4am typing this out & asking for some guidance or help because I cannot sleep ?
3. when boss lady asks for surprise 1:1 meetings, check ins, I dread them. She uses belittling terms and intimidation. (and reminders of the fact that she could fire me). I am a people pleaser by nature and cooperative, but its not doing me any favors atm. What are some things that I can say to exit a conversation that is going sour and leaves me feeling uncomfortable, discouraged. I would rather have a second person, or HR, be involved in any future convos with boss.
FYI: I am not the only oneexperiencing some of these things. LIke, people will straight up scatter when she appears to avoid interactions with her. I am the newest hire though so I am still learning the culture and am probably the easiest to push out if something else is going on or blame needs to be directed at someone else (or used as a distraction) or whatever that all looks like
Thank you all!
On 6/23/2021 at 10:04 AM, BeatsPerMinute said:Week after that, boss is upset and pulls me into her office about attendance issues. I was told on multiple occasions to show up to work by a certain time and later learned that every other nurse shows up at an earlier time, so I was questioned about that by my co workers who appeared quite frustrated. (Note: I have been working there a month and have asked every week to gain access to the online schedule so that I can SEE when I work and have a visual reference.... Still hasn't happened and also my name isn't even listed on the schedule. I've been instructed to do what my preceptor does, which unfortunately changes and sometimes communicated to me in a vague, ambiguous way. When I try to explain to my boss that all I need is access to the schedule with my name included on the days that I work, I am met with frustration/irritation with statements such as "You didn't communicate and touch base with your preceptor and that is all on you. It is SIMPLE: Check in with your preceptor and show up on time..
Has the manager provided any rational explanation for why you can’t be included on the schedule and given access to the scheduling system? It seems to be a very reasonable request for you to make and one that they should easily be able to accomodate. Especially if they think that you have attendence issues. Honestly, this sounds like power games and gaslighting to me.
On 6/23/2021 at 10:04 AM, BeatsPerMinute said:The work itself is fine, however I have gut feeling that I need to leave this place. My boss has asked about and accused me of things that have never happened Ex: that I made a severe med error. Since then, rumors have been spreading. I have even been approached by neighbor department nurses asking about what they had heard: like, that I may have personally mishandled narcs or diverted meds... Not concerned because it is untrue. There's nothing there (clean history and background).. its just weird and make me feel uneasy... I imagine it creates a neg perception of me, which isn't a great place to be in when starting a new job (nor at any time, really).
If it were me and I knew that I had never mishandled or diverted meds, I would be extremely wary if my none too friendly or supportive manager starts asking about med errors that I haven’t made, especially ones involving narcotics. Perhaps it’s my previous experience with criminals (former career), but I’d be very concerned that someone in the organization actually is diverting narcotics and is trying to preemptively cast suspicions on a suitable fall guy or gal, in case their diversion would draw unwanted attention in the future. It sounds like a false rumor about you is starting to circulate. Be careful!
OP, I suspect your gut speaks the truth.
Best wishes!
(Sorry about the multiple posts. Technology not cooperating with me today ?)
On 6/24/2021 at 1:18 PM, macawake said:Has the manager provided any rational explanation for why you can’t be included on the schedule and given access to the scheduling system? It seems to be a very reasonable request for you to make and one that they should easily be able to accomodate. Especially if they think that you have attendence issues. Honestly, this sounds like power games and gaslighting to me.
If it were me and I knew that I had never mishandled or diverted meds, I would be extremely wary if my none too friendly or supportive manager starts asking about med errors that I haven’t made, especially ones involving narcotics. Perhaps it’s my previous experience with criminals (former career), but I’d be very concerned that someone in the organization actually is diverting narcotics and is trying to preemptively cast suspicions on a suitable fall guy or gal, in case their diversion would draw unwanted attention in the future. It sounds like a false rumor about you is starting to circulate. Be careful!OP, I suspect your gut speaks the truth.
Best wishes!
(Sorry about the multiple posts. Technology not cooperating with me today ?)
all of that. Narcs are no joke. IF someone IS diverting then you will be their fall guy. No bueno.
Agree with all posts saying this is not going to improve. I would email my resignation ASAP to HR & to her. Then hand HR a hard copy first so they know before she does, then hand her a hard copy second. As most of the seasoned nurses and others have pointed out this is not going to improve. I would quit stat! This job is not worth the heartache and she is already planning stuff. It’s better to be temporarily unemployed then to face false accusations of narcotic diversion and loss of license. Sending positive thoughts your way!
The fact that she is accusing you/spreading rumors about you making narcotic errors is a red flag. I believe the legal term is slander and libel. You don't mess with another nurse's professional reputation.
It would make me wonder if SHE is diverting narcotics and going to try to pin it on you.
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