Exhausted; I want a way out.

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How do I continue to do this career? I feel like I’ve tried every available, reasonable option. I’ve worked the floor, I worked the E.R, I’ve travel nursed, I did clinical coordinator, and now I do Home Health....suppose to be part time but never is. I’ve driven 1.5 hours to get to work and I’ve worked 30min away from my home. I have been a nurse for 11 years this month and I’m just tired of trying to make it work. Part of my pain is something that has nothing to do with work...and yet does a little bit. Because I was traveling around and trying to find a fit, and because I can count on one hand the amount of men I have worked with, I did not date much and thus did not get married until I was 33. My husband and I have been trying to have a child and it isn’t working out well. We have been told that IVF is our only realistic option but we can’t even get approved for a loan to do it due to my husband’s previous debt. And unfortunately I only make 50k a year and only have a house payment in my name, but they tell me for my husband and I to get approved for the loan we would need to make about 130k a year. My husband is a tradesman and we have never made more than 80k together in a year. However last year he did not have any work at all (Trumps great economy my ***.) Adoption is about as much as IVF and since my husband and I are older also a kind of long shot. (He is 57 and I am 38).

Yes I could probably go back to travel nursing or return to the ER and make more money than I do now, but I’m just tired. Travel nursing was not terrible, but it is always having to learn a new place, system, doctors, and hope you are following their policies correctly when everyone is to busy for you to ask questions. And it is lonely as my husband can’t get work if he is traveling with me. The ER was okay until my dad died 2 years ago and then all the sudden it got very hard to take care of codes for me. Now I do Home Health which is a cake walk compared to my hospital experience, except the charting. Like I can see all my 6-7 patients in 8.5 hours, and I do try to chart as I see them, but I usually have 2-3 hours of charting to do every evening once getting home. Not to mention that I always have to work a little the day before calling the patients with visit times and organizing my day (my agency requires we call the night before between 5-9pm). I usually drive 80-100 miles a day. And thus I feel like I never get a real day off because either I’m catching up on my charting or I have to be home to receive my schedule (we have EPIC and no longer get the schedule emailed to our phones, it is only on our work computer and I’m not carrying that around everywhere) by a certain time. And if the people doing the schedule are late putting it out then I can’t get to things I want to do like yoga which is from 6pm-7:30pm. As I don’t have a full team of patients that are mine, I always have 4-5 people on my schedule that I am unfamiliar with. So unlike full time people who kind of know who they are going to see day to day, I almost never do.

I just feel there is no winning with nursing. In all of my jobs I almost NEVER get out on time. I almost ALWAYS have more patients than agreed to be caring for in my interview. I mean hell, when my dad died at 11am it took until 6pm for the hospital to get things squared away so I could leave without fear of abandonment. I actively now screen my calls and I NEVER pick up, then get ***ed at for not being a team player. This last job in home health I made it very, very, very clear that my time comes first. It isn’t about money, although I definitely deserve the money they are paying me plus some. I gave back a 10K bonus and was like ‘All I want from you is a work load that allows me to have my life back.’ Needless to say there is always some excuse why I have 7 patients instead of 6, or why my 6 patients are 80-100miles of drive time. I’m just done. There is always some reason why we (me and my coworkers) need to do more and be better. There is minimal education with outrageous expectations. I am just done. I am a good, reliable, safe, and compassionate nurse. I have worked many, many jobs and have maybe met a handful that I could not describe in the same manner. It isn’t us not doing the work right or well or fast enough that’s the problem. It’s the institutions and their ***ing nut job expectations. It is patients that go to hospitals called ‘Hospitality’ (that is the real name of a hospital in the Houston, Texas area BTW) expecting a spa day instead of care and business minded idiots who set up that expectation from the get go by naming their ***ing institution Hospitality. I just want to go to work, do my job, and be allowed to leave on time 90% of the time. I want to be able to pee regularly and have a regular lunch break, and lastly I want to have enough energy when I get home (or the next day) to have sex with my husband so I can hopefully have a family....so I can have my life.

Sadly I just don’t see that as a possibility as a nurse without just being a real ***. Like I am just going to have to say no to being in any committee, to staying late EVER for anyone else, to working extra or working over. I find this really hard to do because I believe in team work. I know that team work is how we make it through, but if I stick to my own I can get done. If I do nothing extra I can be with my husband and not be quite as exhausted. I just don’t see how helping others means I have to sacrifice myself this much and I really don’t see humans as worthy of the sacrifice of myself as I once did when I was 22 and really idealistic. I believe everyone deserves good, data based, compassionate care, just not at the expense of my life and desires....ever.

16 minutes ago, KalipsoRed21 said:

I do believe I should have gone buck wild and found any man to father a kid with. My purpose in putting myself through school, finding a good partner, and continuously dealing with a career that sucks my soul dry was the goal of supporting family of my own. To be the kind of person that I could role model to my children to. Without the children there is no point in continuing to any of it. I don’t want it all, I want something for all this effort that I can give a *** about. I don’t even come close to having it all. I love my husband and he is my friend, but my husband is not the love of my life. The love of my life is married to someone else. I don’t love being a nurse, it was not ‘a calling’ for me. At one point in my life I liked people, my dad had diabetes and I wanted to understand his illness better, and my friend was going to nursing school. That is how I became a nurse. I don’t give a *** about other people’s children. Not that I wish them a poor life or anything. But people love their kids and have a tendency to micromanage non parent interactions...I am an Aunt and my own sister won’t allow me to even slightly admonished (not spanking, not pushing, just telling them no when they like write on the wall or something) her kids due to she doesn’t feel like I do it appropriately. You can’t have a relationship with children you can’t be yourself with without fear that someone is going to take that interaction away because they don’t approve of your point of view. This is also kind of why adoption or fostering does not read into something that would work well for me. If birth parents don’t have to have a home inspection and take parenting classes, then it really doesn’t make sense to put people through that kind of scrutiny if they are wanting to open their home to parent an orphan. A background check, sure, much else, not really. I really don’t know what I wrote to make you think ‘I want it all’. I’ve made a lot of compromises to get this close to having a family to have it not work out. And the statement, “ It is all about who and how you go about it.” Is how I got here. That is the whole point. It doesn’t matter who and how you go about it. I did everything in my power to who and how about it the best possible way and I don’t have anything I care for to show for it. So what was the point?

For some reason you chose your husband and he is not the love of your life but you expected to have it all? It is rare that a woman has it all because sometimes things like your situation come up. People are so busy going about their life that they don't have time to make sure every single thing lines up perfectly,or at the moment they aren't worried about it (time flies), a person could be infertile, and family members don't always get along (you may have a mother in law from helz who tries to destroy your marrage) etc. I am not saying all of this applies to you, I am just making the point that it is still best to try and do things right like you did, minus marrying someone who isn't the love of your life. I hope you can find peace in this situation and find a way to make the choices that will give you peace but also consider the responsibility that comes with bringing a child into this world. There are some kids that aren't happy about being born so just love that kid and do the best you can for it, if you do happen to have one, one day. It is good to be in a healthy state of mind so you can be fully present for the child. It's 2019. There are so many options when it comes to having a child and so many different types of parents running households. However try not to get desperate because you are in a bad place right now and make an impulsive decision that you may later regret.

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Are you sure your husband wants children? The more I read through this thread the more it seems your husband is not supportive. I don't think the problem is your job, it's your lack of a support system. I'm a single mom because I had to get rid of my toxic, abusive narcissistic ex. Sometimes it's better to be alone than with someone who's not supportive and feel miserable. It can be trying at times but I don't regret anything.

I'm not advocating for divorce but what I'm saying is you need to have a sit down and deep conversation with the hubby and truly gauge his interest in having children. If he's the reason you can't get pregnant, why would he be against fostering/adoption? I don't think it has anything to do with his sister's children but moreso his ego because he can't make babies at the time. He also doesn't care because he already has children and is insensitive to your needs/wants of being a parent. His mindset appears to be "been there, done that so I'm good" which also shows lack of support, caring. We don't know your husband, you do. Only you will know if he's being genuine during y'all conversation. If he's unwilling to take it serious you have your answer. If he's not concerned with your feelings you have your answer. If he's willing to give it a real shot and/or adopt/foster you have your answer. Either way, you'll be able to get a solid understanding of where you two stand. Relationships don't work if one feels their wants/needs don't matter to the other. Y'all supposed to work as a team, give and take, not take and take, give and give.

Sit down, take a deep breath and think of where you want to see yourself in 5 years. Put some serious thought into it and work towards that goal. Don't let anyone deter your path, hubby included. When you set a goal and visualize it you have a path to get there. Also, getting a day job, M-F at a clinic or something of that realm will help with the work related stress. Please seek counseling if you feel overwhelmed. Sometimes talking it out with someone face to face and getting an unbiased opinion helps us. I've been there with cPTSD after my ex and I can tell you it was well worth it.

Condolences on the miscarriage and hope it all works out for you.

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Hi,

Can you work block time only for your agency? I work for one that does allow for field nurses to work block time without doing short "visits". I work for Aveanna which is in many states....maybe one near you that you won't have to drive so far to patients. I wish you relief and comfort! Donna R.N.

Whatever you do please keep talking-you don't need to keep this bottled up. We here support you-we all have challenges and need help! It's too hard going it alone.

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Specializes in Critical Care; Cardiac; Professional Development.

I am sorry you aren't getting what you want from life. It sounds like you are grieving.

I am uncomfortable with the conjectures from a poster above of what your spouse may or may not be feeling. I know at age 48 the idea of starting over with littles would be absolutely alarming. I can't fathom doing it at my age. I believe that feeling would only compound as I age. I imagine most people feel that way as they enter their golden years.

Your unhappiness over not becoming a mother is looking for a place to land, so it lights on your career, your spouse, your past choices, your upbringing etc. It is always concerning to me when I see someone put this much importance on becoming a parent. That much pressure is a lot, both to put on you and, honestly, to put on a child. Even if you have one, it isn't going to be what you think.

I hope you can make peace with all these things that are outside of your control. You sound incredibly sad and angry and it makes me sad to read it. Take good care of yourself.

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48 minutes ago, not.done.yet said:

I am sorry you aren't getting what you want from life. It sounds like you are grieving.

I am uncomfortable with the conjectures from a poster above of what your spouse may or may not be feeling. I know at age 48 the idea of starting over with littles would be absolutely alarming. I can't fathom doing it at my age. I believe that feeling would only compound as I age. I imagine most people feel that way as they enter their golden years.

Your unhappiness over not becoming a mother is looking for a place to land, so it lights on your career, your spouse, your past choices, your upbringing etc. It is always concerning to me when I see someone put this much importance on becoming a parent. That much pressure is a lot, both to put on you and, honestly, to put on a child. Even if you have one, it isn't going to be what you think.

I hope you can make peace with all these things that are outside of your control. You sound incredibly sad and angry and it makes me sad to read it. Take good care of yourself.

Why are you uncomfortable? She clearly stated where her spouse stands on the issue and him not being supportive.

Additionally, what part of she and her spouse need to have a sit down and discuss this & only she will know if he means well or not did you miss?

You may not have gone through this, but having an unsupportive spouse and wanting/having children is very real. I spoke from MY experience and gave advice based on that along with what OP has expressed. You're uncomfortable reading it, imagine living it!

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Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).
18 hours ago, KalipsoRed21 said:

Actually that is the thing. To live a full productive life I do feel I need to have children. I absolutely feel that without children I have very little in this life.

And what if those children turn out to be apathetic parasitic soul-suckers who are incapable of returning the love you give?

That's rather harsh and blunt, I know. But in my 62 years of living, I have seen numerous cases of people scramble around taking shots in the dark searching for happiness only to be disappointed because happiness cannot come from external gratification!

True happiness comes from within; being at peace with oneself.

Thanks again for allowing me to voice my perspective!

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Specializes in Psych, Corrections, Med-Surg, Ambulatory.
24 minutes ago, Davey Do said:

And what if those children turn out to be apathetic parasitic soul-suckers that are incapable of returning the love you give?

That's rather harsh and blunt, I know. But in my 62 years of living, I have seen numerous cases of people scramble around taking shots in the dark searching for happiness only to be disappointed because happiness cannot come from external gratification!

True happiness comes from within; being at peace with oneself.

Thanks again for allowing me to voice my perspective!

I think you're right on, Davey. I've been bummed at times about not having children. (Similar to OP, I had an unsupportive and infertile spouse. When life got better with a better man we were both a bit past it.) Then I look around at all the bullets I dodged and realize it's just one more of life's big trade-offs. I also found (especially as a nurse) that there was no shortage of people and situations in the world that needed mothering.

I'm thinking OP really needs to find a good therapist to help her clarify just what need would be satisfied by having children and how to make it all work out for the best.

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Specializes in CVICU, MICU, Burn ICU.
2 hours ago, not.done.yet said:

Your unhappiness over not becoming a mother is looking for a place to land, so it lights on your career, your spouse, your past choices, your upbringing etc. It is always concerning to me when I see someone put this much importance on becoming a parent. That much pressure is a lot, both to put on you and, honestly, to put on a child. Even if you have one, it isn't going to be what you think.

These ^ are such wise words.

To the OP, my heart goes out to you. You are experiencing a great disappointment. This is hard to put in words, but being a parent is fulfilling, but in a very unexpected way. Your thoughts right now are very focused on how you are not fulfilled. As it turns out, parenting ends up not at all being a way to fulfill the parent. I quickly realized it is not about me and my happiness at all. I would not trade my children for the world, I am just saying they are not what you will find fulfillment in. In fact, it is not fair to put that responsibility on any other human being.

I have someone very close to me who has experienced MUCH of what you have and are. She made all the right decisions in life, but they did not end up being conducive to starting a family, even though she wanted it with all her heart. That ship has sailed now, but over the years I have watched her blossom into one of the most giving, self-less people I know who has impacted far more young lives through her work and lifestyle than she could have as a mom to one or three kiddos. Things didn't turn out according to her grand scheme, but she has a loving partner and a full life and they do good things together. I am pretty sure she would now say she would not trade that ... even for the chance to have had her own kids.

I second or third the suggestion that you get some counseling, as you sound defeated and stuck -- no shame in that -- we all need help sometimes.

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Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).
7 minutes ago, TriciaJ said:

I think you're right on, Davey. I've been bummed at times about not having children. (Similar to OP, I had an unsupportive and infertile spouse. When life got better with a better man we were both a bit past it.) Then I look around at all the bullets I dodged and realize it's just one more of life's big trade-offs. I also found (especially as a nurse) that there was no shortage of people and situations in the world that needed mothering.

I'm thinking OP really needs to find a good therapist to help her clarify just what need would be satisfied by having children and how to make it all work out for the best.

Usually I copy an excerpted portion of a post on which to comment. Every word of your post, TriciaJ, required copying due to the truths found within.

To transcend one's situation and find happiness and/or contentment within that situation is an earmark of a person with higher consciousness.

Endeavoring to clarify a so-called need, which would in reality is a want, could result in an illuminating revelation. Most don't want to have to deal with the hoeing of a rough row involved in self-assessment and realization, experiencing the trials and tribulations that are necessary in order to experience that illumination revelation.

It's easier to just go after the goal of what we want.

How many times we as nurses have experienced patients who knew what was best for them when their past actions were what got them in need of professional medical/psychiatric interventions?

As with most, I believe this perspective will fall upon deaf ears.

So be it. In the end, this is just another opportunity for me to teach what I most need to learn.

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Specializes in Critical Care; Cardiac; Professional Development.
2 hours ago, NurseBlaq said:

Why are you uncomfortable? She clearly stated where her spouse stands on the issue and him not being supportive.

Additionally, what part of she and her spouse need to have a sit down and discuss this & only she will know if he means well or not did you miss?

You may not have gone through this, but having an unsupportive spouse and wanting/having children is very real. I spoke from MY experience and gave advice based on that along with what OP has expressed. You're uncomfortable reading it, imagine living it!

Because you asked, let me begin by saying you do not know me or what I have or have not lived. You make a lot of assumptions. About me. About her husband, via stating his reluctance to embrace alternatives is due to ego over producing sperm that isn't getting the job done. That is a huge assumption. There are tons of valid reasons for not being interested in fostering or adopting that has nothing to do with ego regarding viable sperm and nothing to do with how much he does or does not love her. Those reasons also don't add up to "bad person". Those feelings are just as valid as someone who wants to adopt or foster.

The interpretation of his so-called ego driving his reluctance to foster/adopt were the words you stated that I am uncomfortable with. It assumes a degree of selfishness that may or may not be there. There isn't just one right answer here. No sane person can demand a baby at any cost, in any situation, at any expense in order to fulfill this desire, whether that is IUI, IVF, adoption or fostering. He has reasons. We do not know what they are. We do not know that it is his ego and to state it is is unfair to him.

You had an abusive, narcissistic spouse, an experience that has undoubtedly impacted how you see the world and interpret the behavior of others. The interpretation if his so-called selfishness and laying down of black/white terms is not going to serve the OP, her spouse, her marriage, her career choices or a child. He deserves the same understanding she does.

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Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).
12 hours ago, Workitinurfava said:

It is rare for a woman to get everything she wants in life

Unless that woman is my wife, the brat!

Sorry. I couldn't help myself.

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