I am a current LPN student. Our school was evaluated last week by the North Carolina Board of Nursing. We were asked questions by the NCBON representative, and then allowed to ask her questions. There are several of us pursuing different options for the LPN-BSN route. She informed us of 2 very important things-
1- NCBON accepts EC RN's, but lately major NC healthcare systems are not hiring EC grads, so check around places you may be employed and see if they do hire EC grads. Useless to go through if you have to move to work. She said the BON has been getting " a lot of panicked phone calls from recent EC grads that they are not able to be hired." So, it maybe something to consider beforehand.
2- I have done ALOT of investigating into LPN to RN options. I had never seen that Davidson Community College DOES offer an ONLINE LPN-ADN RN Program. The rep told us about this program. It requires 2 years LPN work experience according to the website.
I just thought this was some important info that could be useful.
Compact License actually requires that one hold a legal residence where the license was actually issued to maintain the Compact Pact. This means that one cannot get a license in one state and then move to the second completely and be able to practice under the first license. You would be required to apply for licensure to the new state since the Compact part of the license would become null and void.
A state can make any requirements that it wants for its state, it is up the nurse to meet those requirements.
There are actually about 8 states that do not accept EC grads for licensure at this time.
A facility has the right to decide if they will accept grads from a specific program, it is most definitely not discrimination in any sense of the word. Just like a state can decide if they will accept a certain program for meeting licensure in that state. Same thing.
Specializes in ICU, PICC Nurse, Nursing Supervisor.
ec was accepted by north carolina long before the compact agreements were ever thought of ....when you obtain your license in north carolina the last i heard was not by endorsement but by the regular old fashion application process....i don't even know why north carolina has become a huge topic on here because they accept ec grads as of right now with no issues....
nc does accept liscensure of an ec grad because of its compacture agreement with the state of ny, where ec is accredited. you are working in nc on an endorsement. so, yes you can legally work as a nurse with a ny liscence
Specializes in ICU, PICC Nurse, Nursing Supervisor.
this is simply not true...right now there are two states that you cannot obtain a license in as a new grad...california and maryland....virgina will join the mix at the end of the year...there are certain states that will accept ec but have stipulations...
there are actually about 8 states that do not accept ec grads for licensure at this time.
ec was accepted by north carolina long before the compact agreements were ever thought of ....when you obtain your license in north carolina the last i heard was not by endorsement but by the regular old fashion application process....i don't even know why north carolina has become a huge topic on here because they accept ec grads as of right now with no issues....
denise,
i live in nc and just for my att to test march 4th. nc is an ec accepted state hands down. i think the person who posted this was trying to give us info on the ncbon rep that came to their school. after reading the post. i never saw where the rep told the class that the ec students were calling saying that they could not find a job anywhere in the state of nc because that would not be true.the ncbon rep said that the big hospitals were not hiring some ec grads.and its not because they don't accept ec graduates because i have asked. in nc we have some well known hospitals that have great job satisfation. ex. wake med, rex, duke,unc that is specifically in the triangle area(raleigh-durham). these hospitals get an unbelievable amount of applications throughout the year. they accept the ec degree but nc has so many great universities and community colleges in the area that naturally these hospitals can pick and choose who they want. some of it is politics(who you know) some of them are going to hire their own graduates first(ex unc, duke). who knows the many factors in this equation. i live 20 min from raleigh and have applied to wake med and have not heard back and will not unless i am picked. the hr person said they recieved 98,000 applications thoughout the year. a new grad ec student may have problems when going against a duke or unc grad or local community college. sometimes you have to be realistic and crawl before you walk, that is why i broaden my horizon and started applying to smaller hospitals. but the simple point to this post is that there are many factors to why the big hospitals are not hiring some ec grads. i would love to know how many actually called the bon. it could have been 3 or 4?. it may not be because of the name or because they got their degree online. it could simply be because there is a great supply of grads in the area. it would be intresting to find out if the ec people calling in to the ncbon are new grads. if that is the case, then i can see ec being lower on the pole because it is super duper impossible to get a new grad positions at alot of these hospitals because everyone and their momma's want to work their. again i think its just politics and too many people with the same degree in the same area. i really don't think its the ec degree.
I am interested in hearing from EC grads in NC as to their stories. Or from anyone with insight as to the general attitude of the medical community about the distance ed. What about Indiana State? Any problems with them? If I spend all the time and money in any program I want to be competitive as well as a well prepared nurse, anywhere I go. The same way I have been watching the pass rates at many of the traditional 4 year programs that are on Warning Status, I'm in Fayetteville, so 2 here in the area are. I don't take the decision to pick a program lightly. As with any new degree you have to put your time in learning in practice. Thanks for clarifying how the state to state liscensure works. I agree about Wake Med. I am a Hopkins trained Histology tech. When I moved back to NC, they had a job posting that I applied for. I never heard from them. Got an offer from Cape Fear Valley, UNC-CH, and chose to work at Duke. Felt like you get lost in the shuffle there. Seems hard to get the resume into the hands of a real person. The RTP area is very medically saturated.
I live in NC and just for my ATT to test MArch 4th. NC is an EC accepted state hands down. I think the person who posted this was trying to give us info on the NCBON rep that came to their school. After reading the post. I never saw where the Rep told the class that the EC students were calling saying that they could not find a job anywhere in the state of NC because that would not be true.The NCBON rep said that the big hospitals were not hiring some EC grads.And its not because they don't accept EC graduates because I have asked. In NC we have some well known hospitals that have great job satisfation. Ex. Wake Med, Rex, Duke,UNC that is specifically in the triangle area(Raleigh-Durham). These hospitals get an unbelievable amount of applications throughout the year. They accept the EC degree but NC has so many great Universities and community colleges in the area that naturally these hospitals can pick and choose who they want. Some of it is politics(who you know) some of them are going to hire their own graduates first(ex UNC, Duke). Who knows the many factors in this equation. I live 20 min from Raleigh and have applied to Wake Med and have not heard back and will not unless I am picked. The HR person said they recieved 98,000 applications thoughout the year. A new grad EC student may have problems when going against a Duke or UNC grad or local community college. Sometimes you have to be realistic and crawl before you walk, that is why I broaden my horizon and started applying to smaller hospitals. But the simple point to this post is that there are many factors to why the big hospitals are not hiring SOME EC grads. I would love to know how many actually called the BON. It could have been 3 or 4?. It may not be because of the name or because they got their degree online. It could simply be because there is a great supply of grads in the area. It would be intresting to find out if the EC people calling in to the NCBON are new grads. If that is the case, then I can see EC being lower on the pole because it is Super Duper impossible to get a new grad positions at alot of these hospitals because everyone and their momma's want to work their. Again I think its just politics and too many people with the same degree in the same area. I really don't think its the EC degree.
THIS makes sense.. I can understand the selection process if they have a bunch of applications. I didn't realize they had that many applications a year- yikes.. any place would be competitive with stats like that. The original post made it sound like the rep said if you have EC on your resume then they would just toss you aside (which I have a problem with). However, if you are less qualified, then that will happen no matter where you go. This is where extra certifications or working ANY shift you get would be beneficial.
In NC we have some well known hospitals that have great job satisfation. Ex. Wake Med, Rex, Duke,UNC that is specifically in the triangle area(Raleigh-Durham). These hospitals get an unbelievable amount of applications throughout the year. They accept the EC degree but NC has so many great Universities and community colleges in the area that naturally these hospitals can pick and choose who they want. Some of it is politics(who you know) some of them are going to hire their own graduates first(ex UNC, Duke).
When you consider that there are at least 9 schools of nursing* in the immediate area**, it's no wonder that hospitals can pick and choose. I believe the "shortage" goes in cycles...and right now we're in a saturated cycle with more new grads than positions.
*Central Carolina in Sanford, Duke in Durham, Watts in Durham, Durham Tech in duh, Durham, Johnston CC in Smithfield, Wake Tech in Raleigh, NC Central in Durham, UNC in Chapel Hill, Vance Granville in Henderson
**if you consider that each of the schools of nursing graduate two classes per year of let's say, 50 graduates (assuming that my graduating class of 58 is about average)...that's NINE HUNDRED new grads each year.
When you consider that there are at least 9 schools of nursing* in the immediate area**, it's no wonder that hospitals can pick and choose. I believe the "shortage" goes in cycles...and right now we're in a saturated cycle with more new grads than positions.
*Central Carolina in Sanford, Duke in Durham, Watts in Durham, Durham Tech in duh, Durham, Johnston CC in Smithfield, Wake Tech in Raleigh, NC Central in Durham, UNC in Chapel Hill, Vance Granville in Henderson
**if you consider that each of the schools of nursing graduate two classes per year of let's say, 50 graduates (assuming that my graduating class of 58 is about average)...that's NINE HUNDRED new grads each year.
there's wilson tech in wilson, nash ccc in rocky mount as well as MCI in raleigh that has a PN program.... so that's even more, since many many people will travel into the triangle to work at the bigger hospitals. i work with people from tarboro, wendell, fayetteville, cary, henderson, louisburg, selma, etc, etc......
the triangle area is full of new nurses. that is why i feel so blessed that i was able to get a job in a hospital as quickly as i did, even if it wasn't exactly what i wanted, it was a foot in the door (i think holding an active license as a paramedic is very helpful in my case).
you have to be somewhat of a staunch in this area and keep calling and saying "did you review my application?"... bc with the influx of them coming in, their HR depts are swamped, and your app may be stagnant for 2 months while someone gets to it!
it isn't that they don't hire EC grads at all... it's that the slots for employment are very competitive! good luck in your program!
Specializes in ICU, PICC Nurse, Nursing Supervisor.
i didn't mean to sound harsh..i am having a pms moment and i am quite protective of ec...lol at least for now i may change my mind next week.... no harm or b*itching intended....
denise,
i live in nc and just for my att to test march 4th. nc is an ec accepted state hands down. i think the person who posted this was trying to give us info on the ncbon rep that came to their school. after reading the post. i never saw where the rep told the class that the ec students were calling saying that they could not find a job anywhere in the state of nc because that would not be true.the ncbon rep said that the big hospitals were not hiring some ec grads.and its not because they don't accept ec graduates because i have asked. in nc we have some well known hospitals that have great job satisfation. ex. wake med, rex, duke,unc that is specifically in the triangle area(raleigh-durham). these hospitals get an unbelievable amount of applications throughout the year. they accept the ec degree but nc has so many great universities and community colleges in the area that naturally these hospitals can pick and choose who they want. some of it is politics(who you know) some of them are going to hire their own graduates first(ex unc, duke). who knows the many factors in this equation. i live 20 min from raleigh and have applied to wake med and have not heard back and will not unless i am picked. the hr person said they recieved 98,000 applications thoughout the year. a new grad ec student may have problems when going against a duke or unc grad or local community college. sometimes you have to be realistic and crawl before you walk, that is why i broaden my horizon and started applying to smaller hospitals. but the simple point to this post is that there are many factors to why the big hospitals are not hiring some ec grads. i would love to know how many actually called the bon. it could have been 3 or 4?. it may not be because of the name or because they got their degree online. it could simply be because there is a great supply of grads in the area. it would be intresting to find out if the ec people calling in to the ncbon are new grads. if that is the case, then i can see ec being lower on the pole because it is super duper impossible to get a new grad positions at alot of these hospitals because everyone and their momma's want to work their. again i think its just politics and too many people with the same degree in the same area. i really don't think its the ec degree.
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Compact License actually requires that one hold a legal residence where the license was actually issued to maintain the Compact Pact. This means that one cannot get a license in one state and then move to the second completely and be able to practice under the first license. You would be required to apply for licensure to the new state since the Compact part of the license would become null and void.
A state can make any requirements that it wants for its state, it is up the nurse to meet those requirements.
There are actually about 8 states that do not accept EC grads for licensure at this time.
A facility has the right to decide if they will accept grads from a specific program, it is most definitely not discrimination in any sense of the word. Just like a state can decide if they will accept a certain program for meeting licensure in that state. Same thing.