did the Dr. have a right to scold this nurse?

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first let me say that i have no nursing experience..i do computer work for the huge local teaching hospital. 2 days ago i was told that i could become a "code" recorder. a "code" was announced yesturday for the Cardiac ICU and i had to be there to record the events. when the whole team showed up,the patient was awake,alert and breathing fine. it ended up being a false alarm. what happened was the new nurse just started her shift and she noticed on the monitor that this pt. had a severe bradycardic heart rate of 20 BPM. nurse said that she shaked the pts. shoulder and got no response,so she panicked and pushed the code button. as it turned out,this pt. is a very heavy sleeper and her baseline HR is very very low during sleep. after this false alarm was over,i noticed the team leader dr. talking with the nurse face to face and the nurse was wiping a tear from her eye. i'm guessing that the dr. was scolding her. i am a sensitive person and i felt very sorry for the nurse..i would have hated being scolded. would any of you call a "code" for a pt. with a HR of 20? and was the Dr. right in scolding this nurse??

first let me say that i have no nursing experience..i do computer work for the huge local teaching hospital. 2 days ago i was told that i could become a "code" recorder. a "code" was announced yesturday for the Cardiac ICU and i had to be there to record the events. when the whole team showed up,the patient was awake,alert and breathing fine. it ended up being a false alarm. what happened was the new nurse just started her shift and she noticed on the monitor that this pt. had a severe bradycardic heart rate of 20 BPM. nurse said that she shaked the pts. shoulder and got no response,so she panicked and pushed the code button. as it turned out,this pt. is a very heavy sleeper and her baseline HR is very very low during sleep. after this false alarm was over,i noticed the team leader dr. talking with the nurse face to face and the nurse was wiping a tear from her eye. i'm guessing that the dr. was scolding her. i am a sensitive person and i felt very sorry for the nurse..i would have hated being scolded. would any of you call a "code" for a pt. with a HR of 20? and was the Dr. right in scolding this nurse??

You did not even hear anything. You saw the nurse tear up and you put two and two and came up with five.Brava:yeah:

first let me say that i have no nursing experience..i do computer work for the huge local teaching hospital. 2 days ago i was told that i could become a "code" recorder. a "code" was announced yesturday for the Cardiac ICU and i had to be there to record the events. when the whole team showed up,the patient was awake,alert and breathing fine. it ended up being a false alarm. what happened was the new nurse just started her shift and she noticed on the monitor that this pt. had a severe bradycardic heart rate of 20 BPM. nurse said that she shaked the pts. shoulder and got no response,so she panicked and pushed the code button. as it turned out,this pt. is a very heavy sleeper and her baseline HR is very very low during sleep. after this false alarm was over,i noticed the team leader dr. talking with the nurse face to face and the nurse was wiping a tear from her eye. i'm guessing that the dr. was scolding her. i am a sensitive person and i felt very sorry for the nurse..i would have hated being scolded. would any of you call a "code" for a pt. with a HR of 20? and was the Dr. right in scolding this nurse??

You're guessing the doctor was "scolding" the nurse.

The doctor may very well have been providing support or educating the nurse on how things could have been handled differently and the nurse was hyper-emotional following the adrenalin rush and crash of the whole event.

Specializes in Trauma, Emergency.

eesh! this person may not be a nurse, but OP is likely not an idiot, either. Perhaps there was body language involved that led OP to the conclusion that scolding was going on...There are lots of ways to deduce the tone of an interaction between two people even if you're not right in the middle of it to hear every word...there is a very good possibility that OP saw the doctor hunched in to the nurse with his jaw tense or something like that to indicate MD's displeasure. either way, be nice! it seems like a lot of people are coming down hard on OP! OP is asking a simple question that OP has no reason to know the answer to as a non-nurse-HENCE why OP is asking here. let's all put our kind hats back on and remember that sometimes what we say ourselves can be construed as "scolding" whether we mean for it to or not. :hug:

Specializes in Med/Surg.

As I said, I do indulge postings by non-nurse members. I'm not saying it's never okay for someone who isn't a nurse to post here....not at all. I more refer to the people that aren't that come back repeatedly, post threads that undoubtedly get closed because they violate the TOS, and/or post the same question several times. That DOES wear on my patience, I'm sorry, I'm being honest. The feedback I'm getting is that, I shouldn't say anything that might be negative in that respect, because I'm a nurse....I get lost in that logic, sorry.

My feelings aren't based on one post but on history.

As I said, I do indulge postings by non-nurse members. I'm not saying it's never okay for someone who isn't a nurse to post here....not at all. I more refer to the people that aren't that come back repeatedly, post threads that undoubtedly get closed because they violate the TOS, and/or post the same question several times. That DOES wear on my patience, I'm sorry, I'm being honest. The feedback I'm getting is that, I shouldn't say anything that might be negative in that respect, because I'm a nurse....I get lost in that logic, sorry.

My feelings aren't based on one post but on history.

And my feelings are based on the OP's posting history.

The poster is not a healthcare professional they happen to work at a hospital.

Based on their posting history it appears they use their position to find things to gossip about, be it "cases" or other employees under the guise of finding it interesting or just being curious.

Specializes in Med/Surg.
And my feelings are based on the OP's posting history.

The poster is not a healthcare professional they happen to work at a hospital.

Based on their posting history it appears they use their position to find things to gossip about, be it "cases" or other employees under the guise of finding it interesting or just being curious.

I do believe someone has seen my point. Thank you.

Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.
As I said, I do indulge postings by non-nurse members. I'm not saying it's never okay for someone who isn't a nurse to post here....not at all. I more refer to the people that aren't that come back repeatedly, post threads that undoubtedly get closed because they violate the TOS, and/or post the same question several times. That DOES wear on my patience, I'm sorry, I'm being honest. The feedback I'm getting is that, I shouldn't say anything that might be negative in that respect, because I'm a nurse....I get lost in that logic, sorry.

My feelings aren't based on one post but on history.

I agree with you, cherrybreeze. The purpose of the site gets diluted when everybody and his brother are jumping on here asking questions and offering opinions.

JMO as a nurse.

Professional never scold other professionals in public. They just don't.

And my feelings are based on the OP's posting history.

The poster is not a healthcare professional they happen to work at a hospital.

Based on their posting history it appears they use their position to find things to gossip about, be it "cases" or other employees under the guise of finding it interesting or just being curious.

I see someone who is asking questions about the things he is seeing or reading and would like an explanation from those directly involved in patient care. Maybe he does not want to bother those where he works with these questions especially since many of the forums stress they are overstressed and too busy to pee. He might get that but feels an open public forum might be a great place to learn.

It is no different than some of us popping on to some of the computer wiz or tech forums to ask a question about some of our gadgets which are probably too intense for us but we must have them and now we turn to those forums and ask what might seem like really stupid questions to those in that specialty. But, fortunately someone always takes time to explain to a mere health care professional how to turn on my new TV set.

How many times has someone here picked up the telephone and screamed like it is a life or death situation if a computer expert does not get up to the unit real fast and fix (resuscitate) the technology before :bluecry1: the paper order forms must come out of the closet? Bystanders may interpret your voice, words and actions to be a serious event and somebody really important has coded in the nurses' station. Anyone who keeps the technology running in a hospital is definitely part of the team.

Specializes in Pediatrics, ER.

I'm not surprised that a hospital who allows someone with no medical experience to record a code is also a hospital that doesn't get concerned over a patient with a HR of 20, regardless of whether or not they're in a deep sleep........

I'm not surprised that a hospital who allows someone with no medical experience to record a code is also a hospital that doesn't get concerned over a patient with a HR of 20, regardless of whether or not they're in a deep sleep........

Define "record a code".

In my hospital it has many meanings since we do teaching and have electronic gadgets everywhere.

Someone writing events on a piece of paper is just one way and may be done while other methods are also be used to "record a code".

20th century today and maybe the 21st century hopefully by the end of this decade.....

Specializes in Pediatrics, ER.
Define "record a code".

In my hospital it has many meanings since we do teaching and have electronic gadgets everywhere.

Someone writing events on a piece of paper is just one way and may be done while other methods are also be used to "record a code".

20th century today and maybe the 21st century hopefully by the end of this decade.....

The OP stated he/she recorded the events. You'll have to take that up with them. I don't care what kind of "event" or "code" it is. Someone who is working IT has no business even walking in the room as a recorder, regardless of whether or not an actual event occurred or if it's on paper or computer.

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