I am in a two year RN program at a community college. I have a law degree, and I am studying nursing so I can do HealthCare Law or Medical Malpractice. No one at my school knows that I have a law degree (except the administrator), and I don't plan to tell them, because I don't want to answer legal questions for the next two years, or draw attention to myself.
Sadly, I am disappointed with many of my classmates in nursing school. They are very boring to talk to and somewhat blue-collar-ish. I am always friendly towards them, but half of them don't return my friendly gestures because they probably don't understand my nature (I am shy and reserved, but pleasant). My classmates in law school were just so much more interesting, and friendly! I got along great with all of them. I was expecting to really like my nursing classmates too, because I thought most nurses were really nice people. But these people are just working class snobs (they don't like anyone who does not act working class like them).
I probably should have applied to a Masters level Nursing program, in order to find people like myself in nursing school.
I was just wondering if others out there are a "fish out of water" in their nursing programs.
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Simplistic thought:
Ghandi said, "we must be the change we want to see in the world"
Often, we get back what put out there in energy and actions.
I am not meaning to minimize your experiences, but I have found personally, the more positive and helpful I am, I get it back from most people. Also I realized, I am not in school or working as a nurse just to make friends. If that happens along the way, wonderful----but if not, that is ok. I have a life outside nursing, as well.
This is also not to say there is not a lot of mean-spiritedness in nursing school and in nursing. And it can be so intimidating and hurtful. But you also need not worry too much what others think and just do your best. People pick up on this and will respond. Those who continue to treat you poorly, you may need to confront in private and get it to stop. You can be strong and assertive without coming across as judgemental or rude.
I wish you the best. Try to be the change you want to see in others. And see how it pays off.
This makes me think of reaction range, a well-researched concept regarding IQ:
So factors such as cultural capital would affect one's reaction range. The brain's neuro-cognitive function, manifesting as IQ, is plastic and malleable.
Yes, which is why all indicators of intelligence change day to day. Unfortunately, there IS an upper limit.
There is though a line where at a certain intelligence the brains way of processing differs.
This can be seen when comparing a normal person and a gifted person. The differences are markedly seen when comparing normal people and geniuses. The difference between genius and gifted however are not always great and can vary in many aspects.
The mark of a genius is not the ability to be highly intelligent but to process information in a different manner.
Basically, my point was you are born normal, gifted or a genius. It won't change. Environment can't make you gifted if you are normal. It also can't make you normal if you are genius.
In as much, despite having a range, your intelligence can never really increase. The range you are born with is the range you die with.
I hear you Stanley. But a range of twenty-five points significant. That range is so large -- someone born with every advantage could earn a PhD in some fields (IQ 125), or if disadvantaged, that same person could end up as cashier or clerk (IQ 100). Poverty and discrimination impact the brain's development more than many realize. That was my point. And that it can be changed when lives are enriched.
Yes, which is why all indicators of intelligence change day to day. Unfortunately, there IS an upper limit.
There is though a line where at a certain intelligence the brains way of processing differs.
This can be seen when comparing a normal person and a gifted person. The differences are markedly seen when comparing normal people and geniuses. The difference between genius and gifted however are not always great and can vary in many aspects.
The mark of a genius is not the ability to be highly intelligent but to process information in a different manner.
Basically, my point was you are born normal, gifted or a genius. It won't change. Environment can't make you gifted if you are normal. It also can't make you normal if you are genius.
In as much, despite having a range, your intelligence can never really increase. The range you are born with is the range you die with.
Hmm...I don't know what I think about this. On one hand yes there's a strong genetic correlation with intelligence. However, when you are a baby and a small child and all those neuron connections are being made the kind of stimulation you get affects those connections. Classic nature vs. nurture argument if you ask me.
P.S. Random unrelated thought: When I am typing posts and I make a typo, it instantly underlines it in red. If I'm not sure how to correctly spell the word I can right click and get the correct spelling. Therefore...why do so many people have typos in their posts???? Simple lack of attention to detail?? Sorry, just a personal pet peeve.
I hear you Stanley. But a range of twenty-five points significant. That range is so large -- someone born with every advantage could earn a PhD in some fields (IQ 125), or if disadvantaged, that same person could end up as cashier or clerk (IQ 100). Poverty and discrimination impact the brain's development more than many realize. That was my point. And that it can be changed when lives are enriched.
Well the jobs can't be equated to IQ.
As of the last time I took an IQ test it was 146 (has ranged between 135 and 152). Yet, despite that I choose the Army (granted as Linguist), am a union electrician, CNA and nursing student. Most if not all jobs require other qualities more so than intelligence.
Basically, intelligence is not enough to predict future outcomes. The same way current class or status or job can't be used to predict intelligence.
There are way too many other factors to consider like motivations/desires, emotional needs, interests, etc.
I haven't read the last 10 pages of this thread having lost interest a while back. However, I found this quote today and I thought it appropriate in light of the issues raised here.
It is a serious thing to live in a society of possible gods and goddesses, to remember that the dullest and most uninteresting person you can talk to may one day be a creature which, if you saw it now, you would be strongly tempted to worship, or else a horror and corruption such as you now meet, if at all, only in nightmare. All day long we are, in some degree, helping each other to one or the other of these destinations. It is in the light of these overwhelming possibilities, it is the awe and circumspection proper to them that we should conduct all our dealings with one another, all friendships, all loves, all play, all politics. There are no ordinary people. You have never talked to a mere mortal.
Therefore...why do so many people have typos in their posts???? Simple lack of attention to detail?? Sorry, just a personal pet peeve.
The more excited I am the more typos I make. Many times, depending on my mood, I could careless about grammar or punctuation.
Most of my typos are corrected way after the fact.
Shrug...
If I were to ALWAYS be anal about grammar I would have to correct your use of the ellipses instead of a comma. Then the conversation would digress into arguments of MLA vs Chicago or whether common vs. uncommon uses are acceptable and other non related ideas.
P.S. Random unrelated thought: When I am typing posts and I make a typo, it instantly underlines it in red. If I'm not sure how to correctly spell the word I can right click and get the correct spelling. Therefore...why do so many people have typos in their posts???? Simple lack of attention to detail?? Sorry, just a personal pet peeve.
Nope, not lack of attention for me. I just don't have what you do that underlines in red for a typo on this forum. I do have spell check for emails, etc. And many times, I am busy doing so many things that when i get a second to reply to a post, it might not have 100% perfectly spelled words, be grammatically correct or even have correct punctuation but, I do "speak" well enough that should I make a typo, miss a punctuation mark or have a grammatically incorrect sentence, everyone knows what I am talking about.
As of the last time I took an IQ test it was 146 (has ranged between 135 and 152). Yet, despite that I choose the Army (granted as Linguist), am a union electrician, CNA and nursing student. Most if not all jobs require other qualities more so than intelligence.
Basically, intelligence is not enough to predict future outcomes. The same way current class or status or job can't be used to predict intelligence.
There are way too many other factors to consider like motivations/desires, emotional needs, interests, etc.
So IQ *can* range?? I had no idea. Mine has been between 132 and 145. I've been worried that I was losing brain cells or something! Seriously! lol! :chuckle
Back to the point though...
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Simplistic thought:
Ghandi said, "we must be the change we want to see in the world"
Often, we get back what put out there in energy and actions.
I am not meaning to minimize your experiences, but I have found personally, the more positive and helpful I am, I get it back from most people. Also I realized, I am not in school or working as a nurse just to make friends. If that happens along the way, wonderful----but if not, that is ok. I have a life outside nursing, as well.
This is also not to say there is not a lot of mean-spiritedness in nursing school and in nursing. And it can be so intimidating and hurtful. But you also need not worry too much what others think and just do your best. People pick up on this and will respond. Those who continue to treat you poorly, you may need to confront in private and get it to stop. You can be strong and assertive without coming across as judgemental or rude.
I wish you the best. Try to be the change you want to see in others. And see how it pays off.