Scenario: 2 RNs work in the same department. Both are exceptional and have had great reviews, and are high performers.
Both graduated from the same school same time with the same GPA and are applying for an NP position in the department where they both have worked.
1st RN has ten years of experience in the department
2nd RN has two years of experience in the department
Question:
Is the salary quote the same for both based on NP experience, OR does RN experience play into the salary quote?
9 hours ago, djmatte said:The problem I think many have is that the resume is exceptionally subjective in what is considered “correct” or “appropriate” (both in formatting and included information). What I as the writer might understand as applicable may not be the same for the next person (or the same for the intended recipient).
My first nursing job, I had a lot of my clinical experience as well a as my prior military experience as an Intel analyst. The latter hasn’t a lick to do with nursing until I was able to convey in person the skills it gave me to to transition into a nursing career. By your previous post, that could have been enough to toss the resume because it may not have met your own standards of a resume with pertinent experience. At the end of the day, that experience topped the glass for me. It’s that arbitrary nature of the resume process that makes people irritated with high brow attitudes toward them. (Significant spelling errors and egregious grammar aside).
Some people spend a lot of money on their resumes and they are still subjected to very arbitrary standards.
Nursing leadership in general is one of the reasons I left nursing fairly quickly. Full of ambiguity, nepotism, and checkboxing that doesn’t really add much value.
Just because you moved up the ranks in nursing, does not mean you understand the workforce planning aspect of careers and businesses. It is an entire different "specialty" and I wish more educational requirements were required than "leadership" and development courses/ certs. Thats why there are career professionals in these roles. But I degress; I just hope everyone recognizes their value, their worth and understand what they bring to the workplace has nothing to do with what any of these "Jane Smith, ABC, LMN, OP, 123" folks think. Many of them may be phenomenal critical thinkers bedside or in other nursing roles, but awful critical thinkers in admin roles; example: "ReSuMeS MuSt NoT Be LoNgEr ThAn ..." and other lazy ways of bottle necking candidates from having an equal opportunity for employment. I guess this screening based off of resumes curated specifically to an individials personal bias and perceived adequate clinical experience is what allows for toxic, negative, nurse bullies- who let's just face it are unprofessional and should be stripped of their license for their behavior- and in any other industry would have been written up to the point of changed behavior or firing- to continue to work. I have no more to say about the topic ?
I have an entire career in healthcare before coming to the bedside or getting my RN. I was given some level of credit for this. I am not sure what to entirely expect of myself or my career as I begin a new position soon, but I KNOW there isn't going to be a big battle to "get me out of bedside thinking" because with my previous experience...well, my views and how I approach my current job is much different than most nurses I work with that have ONLY worked as nurses. My journey took the route it did for my own personal reasons, but it provided me a well rounded look at the profession and healthcare that is VERY rare in my opinion because no one would actively choose the route I did. Some of the jobs I have worked were for survival and just simply getting a foot in. I have worked all over the trenches and learned respect for everyone's point of view. They have their point of view for a reason and to disrespect real life experience for academic or choosing a blank slate over one that has had SOME kind of experience is very odd to me. Not all experience is the same, some is useful, some can be a hinderance, but I find that to be very individual. I have worked with medical students who are working as scribes in the ER or as EMTs, and they are given some level of credit for the understanding these jobs give to them in their own journey.
A few rules I think would be valuable to follow after reading through all of this is 1) Don't be quick to judge without having appropriate conversation with whom you think you are debating. You don't know what they know and don't know what they don't know. Period. 2) Don't take criticism from someone you would not take advice from. Not every statement deserves or has earned a reply. 3) If someone has a difficult time communicating (spelling or grammar format) first find out if English is their first language. Being brave enough to debate in a language that is not your primary deserves it's own level of respect. Not every great idea is presented in a great way, however if you are trying to argue in an intelligent way...spellcheck and Google are your friend.
That is all I have to say and good luck to everyone on their journeys. May we all manage to make more connections than creating disconnect.
Tegridy
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Guess y’all won’t be hiring me then. Will just knock on the next hospital door down the street.