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As I said, I appreciate your opinion and noted you feel that RN experience has little to nothing to do with being a better NP. I will disagree. And it seems we will have to agree to disagree.

Agreed My intention was to ask an inquiring question and never meant it to be a forum to insult the bedside RN (which I was one for many years and even after I obtained my APRN continued to work bedside because that is where I felt I made the biggest influence on newer nurses, residents and new attendings. I appreciate your input.

Numenor As I appreciate your comments I find what you say slightly insulting. Basic Assessments: As an ICU nurse and ED nurse that is where my assessment become more proficient and absolutely assisted me in my APRN roles. Life-ending decisions (I have found that the ICU/Bedside RN are those who have been with patients and families day in and day out and are the ones who are guiding the PCP to make those decisions rather than "continue" or "status quo" and who do you think explains after the APRN/PCP has had the discussion. I was involved in many difficult decisions and assisted the family to make those decisions as an RN. Having those RN 20-plus years has made me understand how to explain and have those difficult decisions. I would hope you would respect those that read this and keep your insults and demeaning comments to yourself. I have heard you and in your opinion, RN experience should not be part of the salary discussion. BUT do not insult those who are at the bed side and belittle what they do, day in and day out. They are the caregiver at the bedside 12 hours a day, APRN/MD/PA only get a glimpse of and the RN is the one who fills in the blanks.

I need data to support this ie HR policy that says something that supports using RN experience for salary I literally had 2 new NP graduates that are not going to get credentials at our current job because they will be in a lower job code

So this is the major issue. I have been an RN in the same department for over 20 years. This department recently wanted to integrate NPs. During the transition, the salary quotes as NP nurses were losing 3-5 dollars because of lack of NP experience. With the recent market adjustments and RN salary increases, the RN that transitioned to NPs are making less than RN with lesser RN experience and those who transitioned. From what I am reading, most posts say RN experience should not count when you transition into the same department (most of us have been in the department for over 15 years, and some now are making 6-7 difference as NPs. If they were to transition back to RN, the pay would increase by 7 dollars (I am curious about those who say RN experience should not count. Would you transition to an NP role knowing your salary would be less (just because of lack of NP experience)...Once you transition, responsibilities increase, and now I am a provider and not RN. I can not help to believe that if you put two resumes side by side (no disciplinary issues both high performers the only difference is RN experience.. no bad habits. The one with higher RN experience oriented the lesser RN experience to the department. If the person who would be hired is the one who has more experience, you would have more inferior orientation and could expedite the experience RN to the NP role.

Scenario: 2 RNs work in the same department. Both are exceptional and have had great reviews, and are high performers. Both graduated from the same school same time with the same GPA and are applying for an NP position in the department where they both have worked. 1st RN has ten years of experience in the department 2nd RN has two years of experience in the department Question: Is the salary quote the same for both based on NP experience, OR does RN experience play into the salary quote?