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FullGlass has 2 years experience as a BSN, MSN, NP and specializes in Adult and Geriatric Primary Care.

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Jory has 10 years experience as a MSN, APRN, CNM.

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KevinMD has put out some fairy bizarre posts in recent years.  At the end of the day, he is pro-MD.  He will throw nurses and APRNs under the bus.  

We have had hundreds of shows over the years that feature physicians as the heroes and everyone else as "just there" to help.  

The general public doesn't know the first people to respond to code blues are not physicians..it's nurses.  

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On 12/27/2019 at 4:19 PM, Red Shirt 6 said:

There are four US shows that have a PA or NP as a regular or lead. The two that are currently airing is the Resident (2018-?) that has an NP, and Virgin River (2019-?) a NP and Midwife the two from the past are Royal Pains (2009-2016) and St. Elsewhere (1982-1988) both had PA's. 

With Nurses as the main charters and doctors more on the side lines for the US I know of six, as for doctors (US only) I can name 20 easy. 

Thank you for that reality check. The Resident is great. Love it.

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On 12/28/2019 at 9:21 AM, OUxPhys said:

Dont worry, most people see how doctors really are when they have to get admitted to the hospital. My how it is such a reality check for many. 

You mean in your hospital the surgeon isn't sitting for hours at the bedside waiting for their patient to awake?  They aren't changing routine IVFs and grabbing meds to administer that they didn't order on the chart? Huh.  Me, I work at Seattle Grace and all the doctors do all the ADLs and hygiene care for their patients.  Nurses have nothing to do except hang around waiting for someone to flirt with them.

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CCU BSN RN has 7 years experience and specializes in CICU, Telemetry.

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In nursing school, like, 10-12ish years ago we had an assignment to find the most accurate portrayal of nursing on TV. Way less options since streaming was in its infancy then.

 

But...Carla on scrubs. That's what networks need to go for. Hard-working, knowing how the healthcare system works, and training all manner of residents all while providing good patient care.

Also there is a wonderful sound byte in early Grey's Anatomy where Dr. Sloan orders Alex and Izzy to do pressure ulcer dressing changes all day. One of them asks if the nurses can just do it. His response 'but nurses are nice, and smart, and already good at their job' 

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dianah has 45 years experience as a ADN and specializes in Cath Lab/Radiology.

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Good job keeping things good-natured.  Please confine remarks to the subject of the thread, per the Terms of Service.

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On 12/30/2019 at 3:50 AM, Jory said:

KevinMD has put out some fairy bizarre posts in recent years.  At the end of the day, he is pro-MD.  He will throw nurses and APRNs under the bus.  

We have had hundreds of shows over the years that feature physicians as the heroes and everyone else as "just there" to help.  

The general public doesn't know the first people to respond to code blues are not physicians..it's nurses.  

i feel like it’s hard to create a story around nurses due to the limitations of their job in diagnosis . for the majority of the cases, each episode of these shows revolves around curing a disease. this is almost always the theme they use to keep the episode interesting, although a lot of the stuff are unrealistic. unless you’re an NP, it’s difficult, in that sense, to create a story line related to diagnosing and healing pts for rns. 

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22 hours ago, Waiting for Retirement said:

You mean in your hospital the surgeon isn't sitting for hours at the bedside waiting for their patient to awake?  They aren't changing routine IVFs and grabbing meds to administer that they didn't order on the chart? Huh.  Me, I work at Seattle Grace and all the doctors do all the ADLs and hygiene care for their patients.  Nurses have nothing to do except hang around waiting for someone to flirt with them.

i apologize for my previous comments. i was out of line.

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FullGlass has 2 years experience as a BSN, MSN, NP and specializes in Adult and Geriatric Primary Care.

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3 hours ago, Gmilitar said:

i feel like it’s hard to create a story around nurses due to the limitations of their job in diagnosis . for the majority of the cases, each episode of these shows revolves around curing a disease. this is almost always the theme they use to keep the episode interesting, although a lot of the stuff are unrealistic. unless you’re an NP, it’s difficult, in that sense, to create a story line related to diagnosing and healing pts for rns. 

Nurse Jackie did a great job of creating a show around nurses.  When you think about it, in a hospital, the doctor pops in for 10 or 15 minutes a couple times a day, but the nurses are there 24/7 with the patient.  I think a show could focus more on the caring aspects of the nurse-patient relationship, as well as interactions between nurses themselves and nurses and doctors.  There have been many cases of nurses intervening to stop bad orders from being carried out.  There was a case of a nurse who refused to allow the cops to get (blood or DNA?) from a patient.  Nurses can also have a lot of stress, back and other joint pains, etc.  A lot of patients have credited their recovery to their nurse, who encouraged them, kicked their butts when necessary, etc.

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On 12/26/2019 at 9:52 PM, MikeFNPC said:

I work with a few hundred doctors and am active on Doximitry.  Doctors threshold for complaining is ridiculously low.    

I work as a manager of an organization with 15000 employees and oversee our employee health and occupational health and safety dept...all I can say is I am absolutely I am completely embarrassed by the medical community (doc's) these days....I agree, their threshold to complain is ridiculously low..either feeling threatened and get defensive...or feel they should not be questioned or held accountable.  I am happy to see a show about nurses...and if it makes doc's mad...good.  They (and I dont want to stereotype or say all) but a vast many need to stop operating their offices like a business to garner more money...stop over advocating and giving people people what they want...and not what they need...

Even if that means they go elsewhere...society has lost its resilience and I'm finding most doc's are buying into it...hook, line, and sinker....

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FullGlass has 2 years experience as a BSN, MSN, NP and specializes in Adult and Geriatric Primary Care.

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7 minutes ago, Albertanurse13 said:

all I can say is I am absolutely I am completely embarrassed by the medical community (doc's) these days....I agree, their threshold to complain is ridiculously low..either feeling threatened and get defensive...or feel they should not be questioned or held accountable. 

Totally agree.  What's weird is I don't work with any doctors that are actually like this, but I'm in primary care.  The whining over on KevinMD over every little thing makes doctors look bad, really bad.  There are dozens of shows about doctors, and do nurses complain?  No, we don't whine over the many ways that the media inaccurately portrays nurses.  Now, there will be ONE show about nurses, and doctors have to complain!  Nurses don't whine very much in general, compared to doctors.

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NotReady4PrimeTime has 25 years experience as a RN and specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.

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After I read the original blog post, I fired off a reply to the effect that it was interesting that a physician would be offended by a stereotype and asked if any of the other physicians also whining about it had ever defended nursing when we've been depicted in very unflattering terms. I haven't checked back to see if there was a response. 

I'm not sure where the idea that Canada's socialized health care system is somehow less filled with bloated egos and self-righteous physicians. It's not. I've watched a (world-famous) local surgeon tour the minister of health through an ICU so he could complain about the lack of beds and the crappy working conditions "his surgeons" were forced to work within. 'Scuse me? See all these nurses?? We're here ALL THE TIME! And when "your surgeons" are here to do a procedure, guess who gets everything ready, moving furniture and equipment to give you as much room as possible... the nurses do! He got what he wanted in the end - his own personal ICU where "his surgeons" could stretch their personal bubbles to their little hearts' content. 

I've seen another (world-famous) surgeon pitch an absolute hissy fit because the unit didn't have "his" gloves on the unit... after he contaminated the pair he had on. He yanked the cable for his headlamp out of the socket and threw it on the floor, dragged his dirty gloves off, stomped off the unit and around the corner to the OR and got himself some new gloves. Of course, he had to scrub back in and he whined about all the time he wasted. After that our case cart had several pairs of "his" gloves on it.

Believe me, Canada isn't immune!

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