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Do all schools do this??:(

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Many moons ago when I spent one year as a traditional college, student anyone could take intro to chem,bio or algebra. I need those classes to apply to most of the programs on my list(for 2010 admissions).

I have looked into attending these classes at a few community colleges. All of these schools want everyone to be tested and then the school determines if the student can take an intro class or needs a few development classes first. In other words, I would have to spend time and money taking the developmental classes before the intro classes...time and money I do not have.

To me it seems silly to be forced to take a developmental class before enrolling in an intro course,kwim?

Is this the norm? Do local high schools offer these intro classes to adult learners? Help!

There's a placement exam usually for math and english but I've never heard of one for intro to bio or chem. Usually the intro classes are the development classes for Anatomy and Physiology.

This is typical of community colleges because their admission standards are very low. At a traditional college, they already know you are able to handle the work in an intro class or you would not have been admitted. At community, they give everyone a basic skills test (usually math and English)to see if they are ready for intro classes. I even had to take the test and I already had a BA and was halfway to my masters in education when I decided to change careers! :rolleyes: If you do not meet the minimum standard, you take remedial classes. It is designed to help students succeed. If you are concerned about the test, brush up on whatever your weakest skills are before you take it and you won't have to worry about taking remedials. Good luck!

RNDreamer

Specializes in acute care.

Have you tried registering as a nondegree student. The tuition may be higher than it is for a degree seeking student, but ask anyway.

smartin13

Has 5 years experience.

The nursing program I am in offers testing to see if you need these classes before you start, it is suppose to help in your classes once you get to them. I guess you can see it as a waste of time and money but if it means you get thru bio, anatomy, chem and everything else the first time instead of taking it multiple times I think it's smart. Also use it to help your GPA. Nursing school is all about jumping thru the hoops get use to it.

Have you even taken the placement tests yet? If you have and feel that you have truly been placed at a level lower than your capabilities I would strongly suggest that you look into either studying and retaking the placement test(s).

Try to consider that remedial classes are necessary for some people and that there is nothing to be ashamed of if you are one of them. Having too much pride is a bad way to start this long and stressful journey. I personally don't think it is silly that students are forced to take remedial classes because in many ways they are unavoidable. Plus, it is a waste of money for the school if a bunch of people enroll for classes they aren't ready for and then drop them and get a refund because they are failing. Spots in certain classes are very valuable and competitive at my school and they work to fill them with qualified individuals.

Our community college has a placement exam for English and Math only. I was able to bypass that for awhile by just taking 1-2 classes at a time. Once I applied to the nursing school, I had to take the test. I had already taken basic English, so I just had to test for my Math skills. I do find it odd they would be testing for anything else.

Our community college has a placement exam for English and Math only. I was able to bypass that for awhile by just taking 1-2 classes at a time. Once I applied to the nursing school, I had to take the test. I had already taken basic English, so I just had to test for my Math skills. I do find it odd they would be testing for anything else.

At community colleges in my state most of the science courses have college level english and/or math competency requirements. So while you don't need to be tested for e.g., bio or chem you do need to have taken basic college english and/or math or be able to test into these courses in order to take the science courses. This may be what OP is talking about.

Thats the way it works in most community colleges in my state. You take placement tests for only math and english but you have to pass them and test out before you can take either college algebra,eng comp, chem or bio.

BellasMommyOBRN

Specializes in Maternity.

hmmm..at my local cc, you only had to take a placement exam if you hadn't taken certain courses when you were in high school. i never had to take a placement test. i feel for those who do :(

I just wanted to say that I have not taken any placement tests yet and have no idea what to expect. It's not a matter of pride or thinking I am above the rules. A few friends and I were talking and contemplating that forcing people to take a number of classes to prepare for the sought after class might also be a school's way of making money during a bad economy.

coolpeach

Specializes in ER/Ortho.

The test is free, and it you are ready for the intro classes you should be able to pass no problem. If you do not pass then you will more than likely not do very well in the college level course for the test you failed. It's not fun to take remedial, but it is necessary if you need it to move on.

Junebugfairy

Specializes in Gyn/STD clinic tech.

no, no!

my cc has been doing this for years.

they want to ensure that you have the eng, math, and reading skills necessary for college classes.

college math is required for nursing.. they need to make sure you are advanced enough to do college math. if you do not place into college math you have to make remedial classes.

do it. i did it, and most other students on here did it too.

if you want to be a nurse you need to go through the proper steps.

Daytonite, BSN, RN

Specializes in med/surg, telemetry, IV therapy, mgmt. Has 40 years experience.

most colleges do this placement testing so students don't waste their tuition taking a class that they might end up flunking. these placement tests determine your level of knowledge in a subject so the college knows where they will allow you to start the sequence of classes. i took one for math several years ago and it was only one page long and had about 15 or 20 questions of increasing difficulty on it. the college will have remedial classes in those subjects that they will explain you need to take before you can get into the required class you actually need. at my college it was printed on the handout that came with information about the placement test.

if you want to study up on chemistry, biology or math on your own before you take one of the tests at the school you can do that. there are plenty of free online websites that have this information. or you could go to a used bookstore and buy a used textbook in these basic subjects.

JBudd, MSN

Specializes in Trauma, Teaching. Has 40 years experience.

Some colleges also have to prove that the federal funds they are using are being used wisely, i.e., on students capable of passing the classes. So it isn't just to make money, its to be able to provide funding for students.

In general, yes, unless you've passed the SAT/ACT with a certain score. Most college textbooks are written at a certain level of understanding and if someone can't even write a decent sentence or have comprehension well you get the picture.(not saying that is you). I had to take a remedial bio class before I could take A&P, not because of the test, but because I hadn't had bio since 1982-LOL!! It was an easy A, but it was a great comprehensive brush up for me.

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I had deleted part of a sentence by accident.

When I went back to school I had to take an entrance exam so they could gauge where I stood and i had to take an entire 2 semesters of prep classes before i could even get to classes that actually counted towards pre-req's for nursing. It is time consuming and it has taken me 5.5 years to earn my 4 year degree. It is a pain in the rear, however, it was necessary.

Good luck to you!!

I was just wondering, to those of you who have graduated, is it normal for me to be scared to death. I am an excellent student and in the top 3 of my class. I have studied like a nerd and feel that I have a pretty good understanding of patho and etiology. I have a predicted 99% chance of passing boards based on our NCLEX prep program. I have only ever failed 2 tests in nursing school and it was by 1 question each time. I'm comfortable in clinical settings and feel that my brain is worth the 30K in student loans I have to pay back, however, the thought of being on my own and having the responsibility of another human being's life or death in my hands shakes my confidence. I'm so scared that I am going to make a mistake that will harm someone. I just feel "weird". I graduate in May and I'm happy about that but I just don't know if I'm ready. I feel motivated and know that I have to commit to lifelong learning and I LOVE to learn. How much is the unit I will be working in going to expect from me? Do they expect me to come in and be able to take a pt. flawlessly? I will be with a preceptor for 4-8 weeks, or longer, but is that enough time for me to acclimate? I just need someone to validate how I feel and let me know that my fear will make me smarter and less likely to make a mistake! Do these feelings sound normal? Am I just wigging out for no reason? This kinda sucks!!

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