Hi. I'm a student in a Japanese Nursing School. Our school starts in April, and I just made it through first three months. I am facing a big problem, and I need to know the situation of the Nursing Schools in other countries.
We are learning how to wash and clean patients' body on bed. ( I suppose this is common in every nursing schools in the world.) BUT, when you learn and practice, do you wipe (clean) eachother in class? My teacher says the nurse-role students will be wearing the nurse uniform, and the parient-role students will have to take off all clothes except undear-shorts and lay in bed. We will have to take off bra too.
Is this common in your schools??? Is it?? Don't we have the basic human rights??
I have discussed this with some of the nursing students in other Japanese nursing schools. Some schools do not let students take off their clothes, but most schools are doing the same thing. Can you believe it? I never expected this. I was expecting to use a dole to practice.
Are you people kidding me????????????????????? NO STINKING WAY would I undress for ANYONE other than my MD. We did practice on mannequins, and then real patients in the nursing home. We never did one another. Except when we were learning how to raise and lower the bed correctly, or listen to one another's hearts, doing BP's, simple vitals. No one ever stuck me either for practice. This is REDICULOUS! and I would NOT do it. In this day and age that is what the mannequins are for. And a PELVIC??? They've GOT to be on crack! I wouldn't let someone touch me down there especially. What the HECK? I've never heard of a nurse doing a Pelvic anyway... why would you need that from a nurse? Nurses need to know landmarks on patients, but you can do that in clinical. This is appalling.
I wouldn't go topless for that- no way. In my class we wore bathing suits, and that is PLENTY adequate to practice bedbaths. There's no reason why you would need to take off your bra just to learn how to bathe someone.
I've heard this too and I have the same worry. My mother went to the same school I'm going to [15 years ago though] and they got undressed [but not naked] and practiced on eachother. I'm personally uncomfortable with the thought, however, if I feel comfortable when the time comes I may consider it. If I don't and we're told we have to, I will have something to say because nobody in school should have to undress and let other people touch them if they don't want to. That to me seems so ridiculous. It's time to come up with a different way to learn.
Even in a Nurse Practictioners class, I wouldn't submit myself to such. Sorry--but I guess that's just me. The only people who are going to be touching me in those places are my OB/GYN or my husband--Thank you very much!
I can't believe in these days that schools would permit such things to go on. This seems to me to be an archaic practice. Why can't they go to a teaching hospital and do them on real patients? If they keep this practice up, I'm sure there will be a law suit eventually.
We used dummies in our ADN program. I think it would have been more helpful to have a real person in the bed to learn how to turn a person and to change the sheet change the sheets, but I don't know why they would have to take their clothes off for that or even to practice giving a bed bath. (We never used real water or soap on the dummies and just pretended to give them a bath anyway.) I think I would have felt very uncomfortable getting undressed since our class is co-ed.
In the U.S. there are so many patients in the hospital who are not getting baths because of managed care and short staffing that they are usually happy to be ginuea pigs for nursing students during clinicals.
Our program doesn't let us practice anything invasive on each other such as shots or IV insertion (which I think is a bummer, I'd much rather practice on another student first).
Hi. I'm a student in a Japanese Nursing School. Our school starts in April, and I just made it through first three months. I am facing a big problem, and I need to know the situation of the Nursing Schools in other countries.
We are learning how to wash and clean patients' body on bed. ( I suppose this is common in every nursing schools in the world.) BUT, when you learn and practice, do you wipe (clean) eachother in class? My teacher says the nurse-role students will be wearing the nurse uniform, and the parient-role students will have to take off all clothes except undear-shorts and lay in bed. We will have to take off bra too.
Is this common in your schools??? Is it?? Don't we have the basic human rights??
I have discussed this with some of the nursing students in other Japanese nursing schools. Some schools do not let students take off their clothes, but most schools are doing the same thing. Can you believe it? I never expected this. I was expecting to use a dole to practice.
What do you think??
WE DID NOT! We had mennequins and that was awesome! Good luck! :)
When we did bed baths and such in the CNA program we had to wear shorts or pants that could be pulled up above the knee. Peri care and such was taught on actual patients at our clinicals. We used bath blankets and stuff during our skills test, but still were clothed. It was like a dry run and once you got to clinicals you did the real thing under supervision. We also touched on peri care and such in the class room, but we didn't actually practice the skills until clinicals. Thats absurd they would ask you to bare all for practice! Isn't that what clinicals are for...to learn the skills on an actual patient?
WHen i went for CNA training they had us do the same thing that you just explianed.
This is happening in US schools? Wow. Maybe it's because I'm at a SUNY school(state-run college), but I can't even imagine a mandate like that not being legally challenged. No way can I see this occuring at my school, or any nearby.
The fact is, it isn't crucial to nursing education to practice how to bathe someone by using a classmate. Watch the video, read the text, clean up the mannequin....and go to CLINICAL!
NurseyTee
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Are you people kidding me????????????????????? NO STINKING WAY would I undress for ANYONE other than my MD. We did practice on mannequins, and then real patients in the nursing home. We never did one another. Except when we were learning how to raise and lower the bed correctly, or listen to one another's hearts, doing BP's, simple vitals. No one ever stuck me either for practice. This is REDICULOUS! and I would NOT do it. In this day and age that is what the mannequins are for. And a PELVIC??? They've GOT to be on crack! I wouldn't let someone touch me down there especially. What the HECK? I've never heard of a nurse doing a Pelvic anyway... why would you need that from a nurse? Nurses need to know landmarks on patients, but you can do that in clinical. This is appalling.