Diversion

[Frina]

I have a question regarding med diversion and how it is addressed. Recently a relatively new hire (not new nurse) was accused of narcotic diversion. She came into work and was met by the nurse manager, director, and HR with reason to believe she had diverted narcotics . The nurse did not know why and when she asked them where this was stemming from or if there was any incident or error, she was told that they were not allowed to give any details or share any evidence. She was then told that it would be better for her to cooperate, and that she would have a better chance of the board working with her if she basically confessed to the accusation, even with no information as to what she was confessions to.

I believe she ended up giving some sort of confession although she still denies having any idea what they were talking about.

My question is has anyone ever heard anything like this? Is someone actually helping the self by confessing to something they didn't actually do? And are managers really not allowed to tell the nurse the reason or evidence regarding the accusation?

[NurseCard, ADN]

Absolutely NOT, never confess to something that you did not do!!!!

No no no!!!!! That DOES NOT help your case if you are accused of

something! No!!!

How can someone even confess to something anyway, if they don't

know what they are confessing to?

The director, HR, manager, all must have been under pressure for

some reason to get a confession out of this person. They stood

to get in trouble themselves.

[Randomnurse3]

Sounds to me like they needed your friend to confess because they did not have sufficient evidence to pursue a diversion investigation. Since your friend confessed they have all they need now. Never never never confess to something you didn't do. Furthermore never confess to anything until you see clear cut evidence of wrongdoing.

I was told years ago that I was caught

on video diverting. I know for a fact I had not diverted anything. They wanted a confession. I said let me see the tape. They said no because it was part of their investigation. I stood my ground and never gave them a confession. I did let them search my belongings and whatever else they needed to do. In the end nothing was done. I Guess they really needed a confession to close their case!!

[Crush]

Nope, not no way, not no how ever, ever confess to something you did NOT do ever. I would however agree to a random UA or hair test to clear my name. But HECK NO, I would never admit to anything I did not do. If they need to search the locker, purse, etc, fine, if they want testing, ok, but no, no, no confession if innocent.

Now your management has all they need in this case.

[Frina]

So if they do have evidence, are they "allowed" to tell you what it is? Bc in this case she said that she was told they couldn't share it with her at the time

[Randomnurse3]

If they have evidence they're going to tell you exactly what it is they have. Maybe your friend is not been all the way forthcoming with you. Maybe she is embarrassed or ashamed.

[Been there,done that, ASN, RN]

You are getting the version of the story from someone accused of narc diversion. Why would you listen to that?

As I have never been accused of narc diversion, I can't tell you what goes down.

Let's just continue to keep our noses clean, and out of someone else's business.

[Frina]

They said that they were limited to what they could share legally- which I think was just BS.

She asked repeatedly about what the incident was or what evidence there was and they kept saying they couldn't share

[Frina]

I hope you aren't judging. This happened to me. And that is exactly what happened, and I wanted someone else's opinion bc 1. I didnt do it. 2. I was blindsided by this and still have no earthly idea why they couldn't tell me anything

I had 3 people telling me I didn't something wrong, but couldn't tell me how or what specifically. I haven't been there that long so I just wanted to know if I made some kind of error or a little insight to what was going on. I don't know if someone said they thought I was and they didn't want to say. I worked in another hospital for 6 years prior to this and never had any issue. And if there was any kind of mistake, the nurse was always told

[Randomnurse3]

This kind of question would probably be better answered on the nurses/recovery board. But like I said if you gave a confession then they really didn't have to do an Investigation. Makes life easy for them and hell for you. There's nothing you can do about it now as you've already confessed. Saying you lied and confessed to something you didn't do just makes it look bad on you.

[Frina]

Yes I do realize it was dumb for me to say anything and I was very nonspecific bc honestly I had no idea what I was confessing to. I don't know the medication in question or anything else. After multiple times hearing them tel me it would be better to say something, be cooperative, etc. i didn't know what to do. I already asked the board about it, and they said to recontact HR who never responded. They also said that they didn't think there was a reason not to tell me. I think in the moment I was in such shock about the whole thing and it wasn't til I got home and really thought about it, that I realized how strange the whole thing was

[Randomnurse3]

So did they fire you? Escort you off the property? Give you a drug test? Did you sign a confession? What did they end up saying was their next move?