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So at the point of frustration, I said, " just tell me what you want me to say." Of course, they didn't say anything, so I told them that without thinking I took a med that I took a medication. That wasn't mine (by that I do not mean ingested it). I then stated that I never withheld any medication intended for a patient for personal use. I never said the name or kind of medication, and then I said I was sorry for making this kind of mistake. I was as vague as I could possibly be, but I guess that was enough for them bc after that they took my badge, which I'm pretty sure they were planning to do all along, and the meeting ended shortly after. And as soon as I left, like I said before, I began to question the entire event and why they told me they couldn't give me any details. And of course, I regretted saying anything to them, even if it was so vague, bc it was constrewed into exactly what they wanted it to be
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Thanks. I worked in another hospital for 5 years . I was never accused of anything, and if there was an any kind of charting error, which was rare, usually the next nurse would point it out to me, or if it were something else my boss would just ask me. The worst part about all of this is not knowing where this accusation even stemmed from
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Of course I never would have thought I would implicate myself in anyway, nor at the beginning of the meeting did I think that, but after sitting there for so long asking repeatedly why they thought this, or if I had made some kind of error to let me know without getting anywhere and them continuously telling me it would be better for me, that I needed to tell them I've done something wrong in order to help me in the long run and keep my license, I felt like I just wanted to whatever to get out of there. It wasn't until I left and had a minute to think, that I realized that not giving me an actual reason or incident didn't make sense, and that their suggestions were not in my best interest
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Thank you. Honestly, I never imagined myself in that kind of situation, and for that reason I was more vulnerable. I would advise any nurse to learn what their rights are when it comes to accusations of diversion. I just took their word for it when I was told that they weren't at liberty to tell me specifics regarding the accusation and when they told me it would be better for me to cooperate with them bc they had my best interest in mind. If I knew more about this subject, I could have at the very least known I wasn't obligated to say anything or stood up for myself more effectively.
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Yes, it is easy now for me to think I shouldn't have said anything, should have seeker advice first, etc. But I went into work at 7pm, expecting to work, and was met by them. I repeatedly said I don't know what this is about, that if I made a mistake, can you let me know. Asked over and over why they couldn't tell me anything or at least give me something to go on. HR sat there and said nothing. The only comment made about them regarding evidence was "none of your coworkers said anything or anything like that" I tried to think of a time that maybe something didn't scan or anything like that but couldn't. After an hour of this going on and feeling like I didn't have a choice I made a vague statement. I don't even think I used the term narcotic and definitely didn't name any type of medication.
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They took my badge, so fired yes. I didn't sign any kind of termination. They didn't escort me off the property or anything. They said if the board contacts me to be cooperative- that it woill make it easier for me. Which is the same thing they said the entire meeting
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Yes I do realize it was dumb for me to say anything and I was very nonspecific bc honestly I had no idea what I was confessing to. I don't know the medication in question or anything else. After multiple times hearing them tel me it would be better to say something, be cooperative, etc. i didn't know what to do. I already asked the board about it, and they said to recontact HR who never responded. They also said that they didn't think there was a reason not to tell me. I think in the moment I was in such shock about the whole thing and it wasn't til I got home and really thought about it, that I realized how strange the whole thing was
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I hope you aren't judging. This happened to me. And that is exactly what happened, and I wanted someone else's opinion bc 1. I didnt do it. 2. I was blindsided by this and still have no earthly idea why they couldn't tell me anything I had 3 people telling me I didn't something wrong, but couldn't tell me how or what specifically. I haven't been there that long so I just wanted to know if I made some kind of error or a little insight to what was going on. I don't know if someone said they thought I was and they didn't want to say. I worked in another hospital for 6 years prior to this and never had any issue. And if there was any kind of mistake, the nurse was always told
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They said that they were limited to what they could share legally- which I think was just BS. She asked repeatedly about what the incident was or what evidence there was and they kept saying they couldn't share
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So if they do have evidence, are they "allowed" to tell you what it is? Bc in this case she said that she was told they couldn't share it with her at the time
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I have a question regarding med diversion and how it is addressed. Recently a relatively new hire (not new nurse) was accused of narcotic diversion. She came into work and was met by the nurse manager, director, and HR with reason to believe she had diverted narcotics . The nurse did not know why and when she asked them where this was stemming from or if there was any incident or error, she was told that they were not allowed to give any details or share any evidence. She was then told that it would be better for her to cooperate, and that she would have a better chance of the board working with her if she basically confessed to the accusation, even with no information as to what she was confessions to. I believe she ended up giving some sort of confession although she still denies having any idea what they were talking about. My question is has anyone ever heard anything like this? Is someone actually helping the self by confessing to something they didn't actually do? And are managers really not allowed to tell the nurse the reason or evidence regarding the accusation?