Dishonest Instructor

button2cute · Sep 13, 2005

Somehow this story just does not sound right. Once you mentioned it was a graded essay, now some how could keep you out of grad school. Is there more to the story such as you are being accused of cheating? When tat happened in our nursing school over papers written & heads would roll. If this is the case, you do have reason to be worried. Follow the guide lines your university has for this type of offense. Not exactly sure what your problem is because you are so vague in the description. Essay keeping you out of grad school just does not sound like full sotry.
QUOTE=BS Nursing Student]I know everyone means well, but the forget it and move on approach will not work. This could jeopardize me getting into NP school. It is that severe. I have to appeal and get to the truth. Changing schools is not an option, because the other schools would require at least a year and thousands of $$$ more. I know that you have to pick and choose your battles. That doesn't mean that I should accept being wronged. If nursing instructors are willing to lie, who is to say they might not make a mistake in clinical that could cost someone something much more than a grade.

hmmmm, Great observations and I thought there was more to the story. BSN, you will not win. You will have to make the choice is best for you. I do not understand why you want to get yourself under the thumb of scrutinize with your nursing school. It does not make any sense. Just get your grade, complete the rest of your work with As and you have the whole semenster to complete the course with a high grade. In addition, there are plagerize programs that will tell a professor/s if someone plagerize. You can purchase the program as well. If that did occur in your circumstances. Oh, keep all of your materials use in your paper to show them if you are question. The proof is in the pudding as one would say. I hope you are not in that situation at all.

Good luck and do not be upset if you get yourself in deeper by trying to deface an instructor. It is not worth it at all. Yes, you deserve a reply about your paper and explaination what has happen to it. You are not in the position to deface an instructor and you will be known by everyone if you try to do it. It is not worth it at all.

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babytaz · Sep 13, 2005

I'm a post graduate of AB communication Arts major in advertising and is priviledged to have my license as a nurse. Prsently, I am an academician. If Instructors were to give exams that is subjctive like essay, there is no right or wrong because it is hard to quantify such type. Nonetheless, the instructor have stated the guide questions in which you have to answer. By this, your instructor has a say on how to grade your essay based on the pre-set criteria. The checking of an essay exam should be continuous meaning once an exam paper has been checked the rest must be checked in one sitting. and the names should be hidden so as to prevent bias. You have to first approach your instructor and have him.her explain the rationale of the grading. You have to approach him/her in a cam manner. Remember, whatever the battle is/ s/he is stil your instructor! :balloons: :coollook:

**RosesrReder, BSN, MSN, RN** · Sep 13, 2005

I am so sorry about the situation. I suggest that if this unfair grade doesn't dictate whether you pass of fail.......you should let it go. It seems like too much hassle and nothing might get resolved at the end..Good luck

ladynorma · Sep 13, 2005

I need advice. I have an instructor who graded me low on a test and will not allow me to see the exam. The exam was essay, so everything is subjective. It is now in the hands of her superior. She is stating that she did not grade the exam, another instructor did. I have spoken with the other instructor and she did not grade the exam. I cannot trust her superiors to tell them this. They stick together. I am going through the university system to get this resolved. So far it has been a good amount of time and I still haven't seen the exam. Going through the channels will take 3-4 months. Is there anything else I can do? Shouldn't I be able to report this instructor to the State Board of Nursing without anything being done to me. I am afraid to do anything because they all stick together. This should be illegal. Please help. If anyone knows of anyone I can contact, please let me know. And please don't tell me this is trivial. I have spent many sleepless nights over this woman's lies. You have no idea what she has put me through.

It is terrible that you are having to go through this. How on earth can an instructor refuse to let you view your test? That is like a pt being denied access to his chart. That is unethical! I hope you go straight to the dean of students and meat with him or her personally.(I don't mean the sean of student nurses, I mean the dean of the school). Maybe you have already done this. All I can say, if you are in the right it will take care of itself! Chill, and keep the faith! GNSR-PS, Teachers from primary school all the way to professors in universities can be caddy and unfair. Unfortunately, it seems to most often be the female gender!

nursemomruns · Sep 13, 2005

Somehow this story just does not sound right. Once you mentioned it was a graded essay, now some how could keep you out of grad school. Is there more to the story such as you are being accused of cheating? When tat happened in our nursing school over papers written & heads would roll. If this is the case, you do have reason to be worried. Follow the guide lines your university has for this type of offense. Not exactly sure what your problem is because you are so vague in the description. Essay keeping you out of grad school just does not sound like full sotry.
Peaceful is right - more info is needed here because the story, as it is, doesn't make sense. One grade does not a GPA make.

BS Nursing Student · Sep 13, 2005

hmmmm, Great observations and I thought there was more to the story. BSN, you will not win. You will have to make the choice is best for you. I do not understand why you want to get yourself under the thumb of scrutinize with your nursing school. It does not make any sense. Just get your grade, complete the rest of your work with As and you have the whole semenster to complete the course with a high grade. In addition, there are plagerize programs that will tell a professor/s if someone plagerize. You can purchase the program as well. If that did occur in your circumstances. Oh, keep all of your materials use in your paper to show them if you are question. The proof is in the pudding as one would say. I hope you are not in that situation at all.

Good luck and do not be upset if you get yourself in deeper by trying to deface an instructor. It is not worth it at all. Yes, you deserve a reply about your paper and explaination what has happen to it. You are not in the position to deface an instructor and you will be known by everyone if you try to do it. It is not worth it at all.

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BS Nursing Student · Sep 13, 2005

I just want to see the exam. That isn't defacing anyone.

BS Nursing Student · Sep 13, 2005

It is terrible that you are having to go through this. How on earth can an instructor refuse to let you view your test? That is like a pt being denied access to his chart. That is unethical! I hope you go straight to the dean of students and meat with him or her personally.(I don't mean the sean of student nurses, I mean the dean of the school). Maybe you have already done this. All I can say, if you are in the right it will take care of itself! Chill, and keep the faith! GNSR-PS, Teachers from primary school all the way to professors in universities can be caddy and unfair. Unfortunately, it seems to most often be the female gender!

You are correct. The females are the most unfair. Thank you for your kind post. I obviously can't explain all details online, but I assure you that I did not cheat as others on this board have implied. This was an in class exam and I am being refused access to even see the exam or the grade. I know that it will work out. People always get caught in lies. There are enough honest people to override some of them.

Fun2, BSN, RN · Sep 13, 2005

I'm not so sure cheating was implied, at least not on my post, but just questioned to understand the details of the situation more.

It is a little hard to tell someone to "go after that instructor" not knowing if it would only hurt you more.

If you were totally in the right, I'm sure everyone on this board wishes you the best in this situation.

You are correct. The females are the most unfair. Thank you for your kind post. I obviously can't explain all details online, but I assure you that I did not cheat as others on this board have implied. This was an in class exam and I am being refused access to even see the exam or the grade. I know that it will work out. People always get caught in lies. There are enough honest people to override some of them.

Momto3andNurse2B · Sep 13, 2005

I resent that remark. Could this be because you have cheated yourself in the past. If I put all the details of the story in, I would risk someone from my school knowing about the post. I just wanted advice. Not that it's any of your business, but the exam lowered my grade by one letter. Graduate school is competitive and a letter grade in a class of sufficient credit hours could make a difference. Come to think of it, you are probably my instructor. Only she would make accusations such as you have. So if you are my instructor...some advice...wear some deoderant.

peaceful didn't accuse you of cheating, only asked if you were BEING accused of cheating. I don't think there was any need to be so defensive and mean in your reply.

I feel for you, particularly if this grade truly will be detrimental to your future plans, and I wish you luck. As a rule, we all try to be very supportive of each other. I think the other posters were just trying to be honest with you, even if it was not what you wanted to hear.

Best of luck to you.

sunnyjohn · Sep 13, 2005

Guys, let's not try to read too much into BS Nursing Students posts. She knows what happened. The Mod's tell us all the time not to share too much on a specific person, place or thing because the nursing community is a small world and anyone with a brain and a good grasp of Google can find these posts.

Try Googling "Nursing, Dishonest instructors" and see what happens.

Truly, we all know nursing instructors who are just this side of HELL and everyone of us knows a few nursing students who are just as evi!.

I'm certainly not gonna call someone out on an internet forum. I give every one on this board the benefit of the doubt.

Frankly if we don't have honesty and some trust then what do we have? A mishmash of fruitcakes on a really wierd forum. :rotfl:

BS Nursing Student, If you really feel you have been wronged and you are willing to go through the proper channels and possible face retaliation or the consequences if things do not work in your favor, then do what you must.

Others here might take a different route, but YOU must do what will give YOU peace.

I have already said what I would do, but I must give one more peace of advice. Whatever you do REMAIN CALM! Take a day or two to calm down and reflect.

Talk this over with an uninterested party, perhaps your school ombusperson. The ombudsperson cannot start an appeal process unless you give them the go ahead, but they will be able to help you sort out the situation. If you loose your cool at any time during this thing they will apint you the hysterical nursing student and use it against you, even if you have ben wronged. Take the high road. You will come out better for having done so.

Agape,

Sunnyjohn

button2cute · Sep 13, 2005

I just want to see the exam. That isn't defacing anyone.

Hello, BSN

No one is accusing you for cheating (actually plagerism) and there always three sides to the story: one is your side, two is the other side and somewhere in the middle is the truth. In addition, there are details left out of the your post about the situation at hand. Therefore, there is no reason to get upset because someone made an observation.

One grade will not stop you from applying to nurse practitioner school. The semester just began two weeks ago and you have 14 weeks left for improving your grade. Also, you can get into nurse practitioner school as a non-matriculate student and take three classes to prove yourself as a worthy student. Therefore, options are available for the admittance of nurse practitioner school as well as you pulling up the grade.

We are trying to give you positive, honest and the best advice about how to address your problem without burying yourself. You obivously do not understand the nursing arena and the reprecussions a student can receive if they are incorrect and/or "black bolted." You do not want to make waves in your school no matter what because those waves will turn on you in a minute. Is it worth it? No, just try harder next time on the exam/s and written assignment/s.

ALways keep a copy of your paper just in case you need it for evidence and the materials used in the paper. I always do and I keep them for five years and then destroy them. I ask the instructors if they keep my written essays or reports not to distribute them as examples. I also place it in my reports and essays as well.

I do not understand why you are upset about a letter grade that may not effect your overall grade at the end of the semester? I understand in your post that you did not see the grade or the report as of yet, but how do you know you drop one letter grade? See, it is very confusing. The communication is fumble and disorganize about the paper. You have the right to see a grade and given an explaination about it by your instructors. You have to proceed through the right procedures to obtain your answers without turning the university upside down and the nursing program. Therefore, just go through the stages and hopefully, you will receive positive results.

You are in nursing school and it is not like an ordinary unversity's program. There are the good and bad points about being in a strict and high demanding program. The nursing programs wean out the weak, troublemakers and anyone they do not like. Especially, those who do not know how to play the game and understand the game. It is a discipline and highly honorable program that do not take crap from anyone ( I hope that did not violate the site). You have to fit in their standards and kick butt until you graduate from the program. You hate it at first and once you are out....Freedom ....close thing I can compare it too....is BOOT Camp. It will push you to be a better person, discover your weakeness and your strong points. They are not there to be your parents, support system or friend....they are there to develop your character, teach you the skills, and give you the knowledge to become a registered nurse. The nursing programs can break you down and then build you up to be a strong, confident and sound practitioner. This is what nursing schools are about and we all have been through it. You will cry, be angry, laugh, relieve to get out of schol and kiss the ground when you are done. They do not care abour your personal and social life or your situtaions or about who you are. They want you to be the best practitioner through their program. Therefore, it is a head game and you have to know how to play it for being successful.

If you do not believe me ....ask people about their experiences in nursing school. In addition, everyone has one big, bad and nasty instructor which will never go out their mind.

In conclusion, when you ask advice from a group of people do not get upset. Everyone will be bold and honest with you about the situation. There are no hip shooters on this site. It is bold as it can get and I rather hear it from the group here. Than hear it from classmates I already know and do not the truth about who whom I am as a person. Therefore, do not be pissed at anyone or the comments on the board....it is to get you to see and understand each sides.

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