Discrimination Against Men in Nursing

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The following is a quote from a paper written by Shawn Gardiner describing a scenario in which discrimination in nursing against men is wide spread, oppressive, and accepted. I agree with him completely with regard to the same. I am a male RN, a paralegal, and a biochemist.

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"I just did a paper for freshman english here at Syracuse University, and happened to find this forum while researching. This is my paper if you're interested ...

The Hyper-Visibility of the Male Nurse and the Invisibility of the Male Nurse's Discrimination and Struggles

Nursing has been a profession throughout history. The first known record of nursing as a profession was in ancient Rome when groups of men organized to treat victims of the plague. The first American nurses were medics during the civil war; most of which were male. Women nurses, although the minority gained much recognition due to their involvement, and in 1901 the United States Nurse Corp was formed, a strictly female organization. Since then, the nursing profession has become primarily female dominated and therefore schools, organizations and workplaces all have turned towards female interests. In response to these actions and divisions, the nursing profession became stereotypically female in the mind of society, and the male nurse became invisible. The hyper-visibility of female nurses is very prevalent today, even as more male nurses join the nursing workforce. The new merge of males into the nursing profession is due to many different issues including higher pay, a greater demand for nurses, and an improvement in tolerance and understanding of diversity in society. Still, male nurses are stereotyped and face struggles in the classroom and in their profession. This is the result of decades of generalizing nurses as female, and in turn, male nurses face discrimination from educators, patients, and other nurses. Male nurses struggle with the stereotypes placed on them due to the dominance of women in the nursing practices. In this way, male nurses are not easily accepted by society, even with growing numbers in the field and people and groups pushing for equality for male nurses.

The Civil War began to shape nursing in America into its modern form. At that time males were the dominant gender in the field, because nursing was based around the military, and the military was primarily male. However, female nurses were most recognized for their nursing efforts in the war and still are today. A hyper-visibility of female nurses began due to the fact that women on the battlefield were a rarity. Women who undertook this job were the first to be a part of the on battle site military, and therefore were honored as daring and courageous, much more so than male military nurses. The, then, newfound popularity and familiarity of the female nurse drastically transformed the profession into being female dominated. In the late 1800's the American Nurses Association (ANA) was formed, then under the name Nurses Associated Alumnae and was strictly female. This rule remained until 1930 when the organization began to accept men, but in a once all female organization, male membership was rare. The United States Nurse Corp formed as part of the military in 1901 was also strictly female. It wasn't until the Korean War when men were finally allowed into this division. These two organizations dominated the two occupational fields in the United States, public and governmental. In this way these associations, not only affected, but guided the segregation in the field of nursing from their formation around the turn of the 19th century with decades of strict codes against male nurses.

Male nurses, today, account for about 5.7 percent of the Registered and Professional Nurses in America, the most popular types of nurses, and 5.4 percent of all nursing professions. In nursing schools, about 13% of students are male. This shows a strong rise in the male interest in the field of nursing. Increased male interest in the field of nursing can be tied to several issues. First, nursing school enrollment is down, and there is now a shortage of nurses in many areas throughout the United States. This has provoked interest in males because nursing is now a field with many job and advancement opportunities that other professions can no longer offer. Also, due to the increased need and also increased specialization of nurses, the wage of nurses is rising at a higher rate than many other professions. A job as a nurse can be a very efficient job for a male in a household with both working parents. In addition, with the growing acceptance and tolerance of breaking gender barriers in society today, males are more willing, and less embarrassed, to enter a female dominated field.

In addition to the increased advantages of males entering nursing, schools and job providers are also taking new steps to promote males into the nursing profession. A new slogan "Are you man enough to wear white" is part of a campaign by medical educators. This statement is specifically designed to break the feminine stereotype of nurses and, in contrast, promote a masculine attitude about the profession. This type of campaign has been successful because the rate of males to females entering nursing school has risen greatly. Sadly however, dropout rates in nursing schools for male nurses are higher than those for male nurses. After completion of college or nursing school, male nurses continue to struggle. Male nurses have a significantly lower job satisfaction and leave the profession at twice the rate of female nurses. This is most likely due to many factors that have risen due to the female dominance of the occupation.

Gender discrimination for nurses begins in the classroom where classes are focused primarily towards the female student. Books and other materials, especially older references can refer to nurses as "she", indicating all nurses are female, and mention males only as patients or doctors, never nurses. In this way, males have been placed in a learning environment with a sharp female bias. In the workplace, male nurses often stand out against the female nurses and are often treated differently by their supervisors, co-workers, and patients. In this way, male nurses feel and often are forced to perform at at a higher standard due to their hyper-visibility. Patients often resent or even reject male nurses, because they are uncomfortable, probably due to stereotypes and mental preconceptions. This is especially evident in labor and delivery departments of hospitals where male nurses may not be permitted either by their job description or patient request.

The nursing occupation is generally stereotyped as feminine, because of the job history and also qualities of a typical nurse. Nurses are expected to be caring, gentle, and compassionate, qualities stereotyped as female and rejected by males. In this way, male nurses have to break this barrier and in doing so are often generalized as feminine. This can lead to accusations of homosexuality or weakness, both strong and damaging classifications to males in modern society. These stereotypes are often very hard to deal with, and take strong self-confidence to get over. In addition, male nurses can be seen as unmotivated and under-achievers, as compared to other medical professionals, primarily doctors. These stereotypes can cause embarrassment and stress among male nurses in the workplace, and in public, which most likely leads to the high quitting rate.

Media has a large role in the portrayal of male nurses to the public. Movies and TV shows reflect life situations in a surreal manner, often times using stereotypes for character development and humor. One such from of media is "Meet the Parents" in which the character Gaylord (Greg) Focker, played by Ben Stiller, is a male nurse. The name "Gaylord Focker" is an obvious stereotypical characterization, which immediately implies homosexuality. His personality is depicted as flamboyant and his speech flippant. Engaged to his fiancée, Pam, Greg is criticized and made fun of by Pam's parents, specifically her father, for his homosexual-like flamboyancy, tall tales, and most importantly his occupation as a nurse. In a dialogue from the movie, Greg's occupation is clearly diminished by the characters of Jack Byrnes and Bob Banks.

Jack: Greg's in medicine too.

Bob: What field?

Greg: Nursing.

Bob: Ha ha ha ha. No really, what field are you in?

Greg: Nursing.

In this conversation, nursing as a male profession is clearly rejected, by the character of Bob, as a means for satirical humor. The laughing and requisitioning implies a denial of the possibility of a male nurse and is direct and demeaning. Through these types of media portrayal of male nurses, society is not only given the idea that males do not belong in the nursing profession but also that using male nurse stereotypes is acceptable for humor.

Humor, derived from males in the nursing profession, can come from sources outside of the media. T-shirts sold online at AllHeart.com can be found with the saying "Be nice to me/ when you're in the hospital/ Your butt is in My hands!" The T-shirt, entitled "Be Nice to Male Nurses Medical Humor T-Shirt" can be bought for $14.98 plus shipping and handling. This commercial example of humor expands the exploitation of male nurses, by almost literally selling the stereotypes. This T-shirt directly attacks and generalizes male nurses as aggressive and dangerous. The "Be nice to me..." statement, demonstrates a demand for power, which can lead the fear and suspicion of male nurses, both by patients and co-workers. In the utmost irony, the T-shirt is directly targeted for sale to male nurses, which are the people it is segregating against. A male in the nursing profession, who wears the shirt, would in fact be generalizing himself, and therefore only adding to the stereotypes that lead to the suspicion and fear as well as the other negative mentalities associated with male nurses.

Males in nursing have strong opinions toward the stereotypes and generalizations as well as the discrimination that these mindsets create. A poll by Male Nurse Magazine posed the question, "Do you feel that males are represented fairly within nursing?" In response almost two-thirds, over 65%, chose the response, "No, I feel we are overlooked at this time". According Male Nurse Magazine an increase in the choice of the "No ..." response has risen in rate, from previous surveys that posted the same question and choices. A clear majority of male nurses do feel that inequalities occur for them either in or outside of the workplace. This majority is growing, and therefore the broadness and importance of the unfairness is also increasing.

Males in the nursing profession are both invisible and hyper-visible in the scope of society. Visually in the work place they are hyper-visible because they stand out in a strongly female dominated profession. To patients and coworkers a nurse that has a title beginning with Mr. is unusual and therefore treated in a different manner. Patients and staff often deal with, and have different standards, for male nurses. This only adds to the hyper-visibility of the male nurse. Males in nursing are invisible in that their struggles and efforts to revise bias in nursing often times are under appreciated or unnoticed. Society and the media are not as interested in male nurses breaking gender barriers as women in male profession. Also, Women are usually given more respect and credibility for their efforts in breaking their barriers. In this way, male nurse occupational gender barrier movements are hyper-visible, especially compared to the women's movements.

Male nurses face the same type of struggles, and often at a higher level, than females breaking gender barriers in other professions. The typically suppressed female worker along with other groups are using several types of discrimination to hold back males in the field of nursing. This reveals a reverse segregation for male nurses which is gaining throughout society. Whereas stereotypes of certain groups are highly discouraged and penalized in today's society, jokes and generalizations of male nurses are often accepted in both society and the media. This greatly hampers the male nursing movements, and greatly affects male nurses in their confidence and mentality. This can lead to poorer job performance and poorer job satisfaction. Many male nurses are pushed to the point of leaving their job. The discrimination that male nurses face in America today needs to be recognized by society so that acceptance and respect can be given to both male and female nurses equally. If not, the previous stereotypes will remain, and male nurses will continue to be held down, unable to ever experience gender equality in nursing."

-Shawn

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:angryfire

Specializes in ICU/Critical Care.

I have male co-workers who were told in nursing school by nurse managers at their clinical sites that they were not welcome in nursing and they would never make it. I still think we need more men in the nursing profession. The nurse managers' attitudes towards male nurses are a hinderance on this profession.

Specializes in midwifery, ophthalmics, general practice.

discrimination exists...... if I tried to join a male dominated profession, I'm sure i would meet it..

maybe rather than all complaing about who did what to who.. maybe it would be more constructive to look at ways to combat it?

maybe the ladies who have read this thread should decide to be more careful in how they interact with our male colleagues.. I'm a clinical practice teacher and involved in training students.. dont get many men and thought i treated everyone equally.. but I will reflect on this.

how about a bit of reflective practice? (now there is a good nursy term.. Patrica Benner would be proud of me!)

Well I have been reading this thread for a couple of days now and I am finally ready to put my 2cents in. First Aside from a few gender coments and jokes I have not witnessed any real discrimination to this point. Now there may be some very real cases out there but!!! For the the guys reading this it is probably the first time you are encountering this type of behavior being that we are usually the perpatraitors of said behavior. So pull up your boot straps put a smile on your face and do the best job you can because at the end of the day no one can ever take that away from you!!! If you dont let it get to you they will move on to someone else and let you be! This may sound a little simple minded. But I once had a teacher tell me "Use the Kiss method and you can never go wrong" K-I-S-S. Keep IT Simple Stupid.

Specializes in LTC, Rehab, Hospice and Telemetry.

Sure, it happens all the time. I deal with some pretty ignorant female nurses who think nothing of making sweeping generalizations about men nurses. However, I am fortunate enough to have bosses who appreciate my difference and what I bring to the job from my totally non female perspective.

I just joined allnurses, and stumbled across this thread. I read the first couple of pages, but must admit I have not read all 15 pages, so if my comments are redundant, I apologize.

I feel like the discrimination I run into comes in a variety of forms:

It is not uncommon for both male and female patients to request female RNs and techs at my facility (I work in Traumatic Brain/Spinal Cord Injury). In the case of men, it often seems to be some kind of homophobia, and women seem to feel it's inappropriate for me to work with them (even though there's a pretty good chance they have seen a male OB/GYN at some point who was a lot more invasive and personal than I will ever be). Unfortunately, these requests are often complied with, because we have so many female staff, it is easy to find a woman to work with these patients. If the request was made the other way, it would often be denied, because no male staff is available. The flip side of this issue, that works in my favor and is really rewarding, is that after a male patient has been in our facility for awhile, they often find it nice to have a male nurse because they don't feel wierd about swearing and being crude, and we can turn on Sportscenter or a show with good looking women on it and talk about "guy stuff" and they sometimes feel a little more "normal" after that.

I am often called to help move large patients, which at first was kind of flattering, but is now just annoying. I think female RNs need to put themselves in our shoes, and think of how they would feel if they were constantly asked to perform certain tasks "because you're so pretty". At first it might seem nice and complementary, but it would get old pretty quick.

I am always called to contend with violent/aggressive patients. I don't want to get punched in the face any more than anyone else.

The place where it is the most annoying, though, is in terms of benefits, specifically in the area of pregnancy. Female staff at our facility are routinely given easier assignments as they progress in their pregnancy, either because their doctor tells them they need to take it easy, or because they have complained about how hard it is, or simply because someone feels sorry for them. Because of the very physical nature of our jobs, everyone in our facility needs to pass a physical strength and endurance test to remain employed and avoid injury(moving a 400# tetraplegic patient is no easy task). My thoughts are: if you can't perform the tasks because you're 33 weeks pregnant, go on maternity leave now. If I showed up for work with a badly sprained ankle and said "I need an easier assignment until this ankle heals up", I would be promptly sent home and told to return when cleared by a doctor. It doesn't matter the reason, if you are physically unable to perform the job, stay home until you can, end of story.

Then, after delivery, our female staff are able to use their extended illness leave for the duration of their maternity leave, up to 12 weeks. This is designed to be used if you are physically UNABLE to perform your job due to illness or injury. In the case of most routine pregnancies/deliveries, women are able to return to full physical activity long before 12 weeks, but our facility seems to just let that little fact slide, allowing staff to stay out for the full duration of their maternity leave, while getting paid, without exhausting their normal vacation time. The reason that this bothers me so much, is that when my wife delivers, I will be required to burn up all of my normal vacation time and then, if I want to remain on leave for my entire legally allotted 12 weeks, any additional time off will be unpaid. This hurts me in multiple ways: First off, I obviously will not be paid for my time off if I want to stay home with my wife and newborn child. Secondly, after returning to work, my normal vacation/sick time will be exhausted, if I need to take time off due to my own illness or to take my child to the doctor, or just to stay home with him because he's sick and my wife can't stay home that day, I will need to miss work without pay, or try to make up the shift later in the week. Meanwhile, female staff who have given birth still have their saved sick/vacation time to take days off for their kids. Interestingly, I have found some real support recently from female nurses I work with who are adopting and are really feeling the sting of not being able to use their extended illness leave to stay home with their adopted children, they are essentially in the same boat that I am.

The one place that discrimination seems to work in my favor is that I tend to get left out of many of the petty disputes that my co-workers seem to get into, and they often seem to feel that they can trust me more with personal/private information that some of the other nurses. In addition, I have gotten some great insight into female behavior (including my wife's) by just sitting quietly in the nurse's station and listening. The stereotype that men don't listen or pay attention can come in real handy if you are just quiet and play dumb.

Specializes in Community, OB, Nursery.

Ok, realizing that I'm a girl in the boys' club, I will tread lightly. ;)

I agree a thousand percent with just about everything in this thread and have the utmost affection for all the male nurses I know. I just have to voice a small disagreement with the pregnancy bit above.

In theory, being able to take maternity leave at 33ish weeks because it is getting hard to keep up would be awesome, but it is just not a reality for most of us. That would leave us 5 weeks (give or take) to be at home with our babies AND recover from birth, and that is just not enough time. Heck, I worked until the day before I went into labor (and huffed and puffed, and came home achy and swollen) and had the full 12 weeks home with my baby and it was still not enough, especially if breastfeeding is going to be well-established.

Physically - yes. Mentally and emotionally - no. Maternity leave policy in this country sucks, and giving women 12 weeks total to be out is just inadequate. That said, I am all in favor of fathers being able to take as much leave as mothers after the birth of a baby.

(Erik - just as an aside, it must be facility or unit policy at your place to allow women to take leave prior to delivery and then have all their sick/vaca time afterward. All the places I've worked at require you to use up your sick AND vacation time before unpaid FMLA leave starts, and even then you only get a total of 12 weeks.)

I don't mean this to come across as having an ax to grind, because I really don't. I just wanted to put another perspective on the pregnancy bit out there. And really, in a healthy pregnancy, there's very little women flat-out should not do (take care of CMV patients, for example).

Thanks. I'll leave now. :)

\That said, I am all in favor of fathers being able to take as much leave as mothers after the birth of a baby.

In Sweden, this is a norm.

Specializes in Community, OB, Nursery.
In Sweden, this is a norm.

As it is in Finland, and I'm guessing, much of Europe. As it darn well SHOULD be. Fathers deserve leave as much as mothers do.

I didn't mead to imply that my female co-workers SHOULD go on maternity leave before they give birth. I work with plenty of women who work right up to delivery and do great. I was just saying that if you come to work and claim that you are physically incapable of doing your job and require special treatment, regardless of your physical incapacitation, you should be staying home until you've recovered. If you can't do your job effectively, you are putting unnecessary stress on your co-workers, yourself, and could be putting your patients at risk. Additionally, I agree that maternity leave in the US is a joke, but I feel that as a man, I get an even shorter end of the stick.

Hah!

When I was on furlough from my pilot job, and my wife (now ex-wife) was a hotshot @ Motorola, I played Mr. Mom to two girls for almost 18 months.

It was some time ago, but I remain stunned TO THIS DAY that neighbors who were on friendly terms with my wife and myself, simple refused to even acknowledge my mere presence when picking my kids up from school.

Sometimes I'm shocked that this CRAP...and it IS Crap, still goes on, in so many arenas everyday.

Jeebus...last time I checked we're in the 21st Century!

Let's also not forget that there exist at least 8 seperate federal government agencies that address Womens' health issues.

How many for Men?

Close your eyes and tell me what you see.

DLG

cop2bnurse41

Jan 20, 2009, 04:24 PM

Re: Discrimination Against Men in Nursing

Well I have been reading this thread for a couple of days now and I am finally ready to put my 2cents in. First Aside from a few gender coments and jokes I have not witnessed any real discrimination to this point. Now there may be some very real cases out there but!!! For the the guys reading this it is probably the first time you are encountering this type of behavior being that we are usually the perpatraitors of said behavior. So pull up your boot straps put a smile on your face and do the best job you can because at the end of the day no one can ever take that away from you!!! If you dont let it get to you they will move on to someone else and let you be! This may sound a little simple minded. But I once had a teacher tell me "Use the Kiss method and you can never go wrong" K-I-S-S. Keep IT Simple Stupid.

I find the above response incredible. Pull up your boot straps? Put a smile on your face? Don't let it get to you? The bullies will move on to someone else? Can you imagine that advice being given to African-Americans who where fighting for their rights during the civil rights movement? Can you imagine women striving to get the vote, or struggling to obtain gender equity in many areas being told to just take it and move on?

Use the kiss method? Keep it simple? I can't believe what I'm reading.

Let's talk about the social politics of this issue. How do you think our society would react today, if most doctors were still all men? What would happen? Maybe quotas and affirmative action? How do you think society would react if only 5 to 7 percent of nurses were women? More quotas and affirmative action? Let's be blunt. This is a gender power struggle. Women control nursing and the nursing profession and they don't want to give up that power. That's understandable. People in power don't want to give up that power. Men didn't and don't when the had it or still have it. Neither do women. Power isn't a gender issue; it's a human issue.

Either gender equity means something or it means nothing. Apparently, in the medical/health care profession it means nothing. Most nurses, med techs, med asssitants, cna's, are women. Certainly there are economic and social reasons for this. But the question is what's being done about it? What specific actions are being taken to change this status quo? Or, does the establishment just accept the status quo as the way it should be -- that these are really all female professions and that men are just tokens that will be admitted in small numbers. Appears to be clear discrimination to me. Make sure we have a few men, maybe 5 or 6 per cent, just to say we allow men to have nurses. More could be done to make men feel more comfortable, to attract men into the profession, to recruit men, to offer incentives. But it's not being done.

Specializes in ICU/Ortho/Med surg.
I am not trying to justify a female only policy. I am saying that some women aren't comfortable with men doing thier OB care. I am a grown woman, and I advocated for myself not to have a male nurse for that particualar procedure. I hope I did not hurt the male nurses feelings. I apologized profusely to him, but I wouldn't let him check my cervix. I don't care if a male nurse or doc does other things(IV's etc), but I don't want one doing my Ob care. I personally had a bad experience w/ a male ob doc which is why I was nervous having another male check me. an estimated one out of 3 women in America have been sexually assaulted, this tends to make some women skittish ( I feel terrible that I might have made that nurse feel bad, It wasn't that he was less competent or a sexual predator, but due to previous experiences I was not able to let him do that part of his job.)

I am just tryting to explain why some female patients aren't comfortable with a male nurse doing certain procedures.

First, let me say i am sorry that you had a "bad experience" with a male Dr/Nurse; whatever the case may be...I will assume you were sexually assaulted since you use it in your post.

One out of three women in america have been sexually assaulted? Where are you getting your intel? 33.3% of the population of women in the US? http://www.rainn.org/statistics I did a quick google search. They are pretty easy to do. I think you are WAY off on your numbers. It is true that the REPORTING of sexual assault has went up by 1/3rd since 1993; but I think statistics can be manipulated and EXTREEMLY misunderstood.

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